Sacrifice Welding Jar: Regenerate target artifact.
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Welding Jar Discussion
1 week ago
I would suggest 4 Urza's Saga, it is an alternative win con/big blockers/fetches Welding Jar, you could also run Pithing Needle over Spyglass. Still seems real soft to artifact removal and edict affects if it does not get off the ground. I do like the interactions with Karn with the investigates and book. Please let me know how it goes, I have been doing real well with Coco Shamans.
3 weeks ago
i don't quite understand what you're trying to achieve here. it's like a race-horse that's fast in every direction but straight. my first attempt in using this, by turn 6 i was able to force out the Colossus. the second and third attempt, a sitting duck
i would start with switching the lands for artifact land. Darksteel Citadel was the sixth artifact land made, and was originally the only modern-legal for some time; to my understanding, they just made a bunch more that are colored and indestructible. the Forgemaster is good, but paints a glaring target on itself for the potential of a combo, you need something to distract or protect. Frogmite can come in quickly, Welding Jar to restore, or gear like Lightning Greaves or Swiftfoot Boots to protect it. i would also switch out the Manalith for the Darksteel Ingot; same cost, but cant be destroyed. the Pyramid becomes an easy target for at least 4 colors for removal and can stunt your resource development; simply trade that out for cheat creatures (such as Myr Enforcer) or more protection (Voyager Staff could be fun here). finally, Everflowing Chalice is only good if you have the resources to build it up AND the infrastructure to keep it for more than a turn, which you do not. that card could be better served with another creature that can do lots of damage, be quite the deterrent, and demands an answer - Lodestone Myr. it's not a perfect creature, of course, but the likelihood of a natural or cheat play of Colossus in modern against anything greater than a "kitchen table" deck is not good
hope this helps
3 months ago
How has Power Conduit gone for you in playtesting? I’ve seen a few recent lists running it, but i’m not convinced it’s all that powerful.
3 months ago
I have Considered Dispatch and its a good choice for the deck I think I prefer Path as It's safer to cast early game when you might not have metalcraft
Whir of Invention is a very good card which would normally be in the deck along with a copy of Ensnaring Bridge but having 8 lands that don't produce blue mana for non artefact spells can make this hard to cast in a timely fashion
Brainstone is great for the deck some other good cards would be Expedition Map Welding Jar Navigator's Compass And Shadowspear (which has actually made the deck just need to update the list). Due to the how large the toolbox is for Urza's Saga you should look to change piece's of the deck to adjust to the current metagame
3 months ago
Thanks for the suggestions, I’ve been testing and found that Welding Jar as well as Mox Amber are a little bad and I think Paradise Mantle is a great way to help the deck be more consistent. As for spring leaf drum, im considering getting rid of the ambers all together, as the relevant turn to have that mana is turn 2, not turn 3
4 months ago
I would have thought you'd be able to get away with less lands, like 20, instead of 22. Personally i'd be dropping 2 lands and a Brass Squire for the remaining Sigarda's Aid and Steelshaper's Gift you currently have in the sideboard (they just seem like straight-up improvements, and must-haves for mainboard).
I'm surprised to see you running Plague Myr instead of Necropede. I would have thought you'd be wanting to swing with the infect creature every turn, and so the mana the Myr provides isn't great? I could be wrong?
I was expecting to see some Apostle's Blessing in the sideboard to protect your dudes.
I don't think you need to run more than a single copy of Argentum Armor, as you can search for it when needed, and there's just too many times you're going to get stuck with it in hand. I'd go down to a single copy so that you can run a more toolboxy weapon-set to best deal with the current situation. Both Maul of the Skyclaves and Sword of Light and Shadow both seem like strong other cards to run in the deck as 1-ofs.
How much value does Brass Squire actually provide? They seem quite slow in a deck that should be trying to close out the game fast. At the fastest, they can equip something on turn 4 (3 with ramp), when your opponent has probably already stabilized. I think Giver of Runes could better suite this slot, although to keep your artifact count high for Cranial Plating maybe some mix of Signal Pest and Welding Jar works better.
5 months ago
Mana Drain is not modern legal, so you shouldn't be running that :)
I would personally drop the large cmc cards, as modern is quite a fast format and they won't get a chance to see play a lot of the time - also they appear to be sucking up a lot of places in your deck by requiring you to run mana rocks. I'd ditch Darksteel Forge , Doubling Cube , Manalith , Vedalken Orrery , Mastermind's Acquisition and Master Transmuter here, as all of them are either too slow, or not doing enough (or both). You want to plan to have won the game on turn 5 or sooner (in a goldfish situation), and none of these cards help to make that dream consistent.
I feel like Mirrormade is probably also not strong enough, as i'm not sure what you'd target with that that'd be worthwhile?
As you're in blue and black, I would highly recommend some early game disruption to make sure that your pieces get to stay in play happily. Stuff like Thoughtseize and Inquisition of Kozilek would do wonders here.
As far as strengthening your ability to grab cards and solidify your board, stuff like Whir of Invention and Emry, Lurker of the Loch both help you get everything going a lot faster. They also let you run more of a toolboxy build where you can run a bunch of 1-ofs in the deck and fish them up for any given situation (i'm thinking single copies of Ensnaring Bridge , Relic of Progenitus , Welding Jar ), as well as being able to recur stuff like a playset of Mishra's Bauble for constant gain with Emry.
I think given the above suggestions, there is really strong odds that you can win faster without Time Sieve than with it (by just swinging with a bunch of thopters). Maybe drop down to a single copy of that card also, so you can toolbox for it in the rare times where it provides a faster clock.
5 months ago
Some instant/sorcery possibilities for you:
Kefnet's Last Word since you can uniquely avoid the downside of not untapping your lands
Sea Gate Restoration Flip
You could also run take-extra-turn spells to pretty good effect, but that's up to you.
I might swap in "eggs" for artifacts rather than ones that need to go to the GY to draw you cards, since you want them on the field for your commander's ability:
And some ideas for cuts, just based on being overall weaker cards:
Storm the Vault Flip
Zahid, Djinn of the Lamp
Call the Skybreaker
Pull from Tomorrow
Finally, and I hate to suggest it since it means more cuts, but I think you should eventually be at 35 or 36 lands even with all of the ramp. 33 is pretty low unless you're running the full Mana Vault / Mana Crypt etc. cEDH manabase. I hope this gives you a good place to start!