Subtlety

Creature — Elemental Incarnation

Flash

Flying

When Subtlety enters the battlefield, choose up to one target creature spell or planeswalker spell. Its owner puts it on the top or bottom of their library.

Evoke—Exile a blue card from your hand. (You may cast this for its Evoke cost. If you do, this is sacrificed when this enters the battlefield.)

Legality

Format	Legality
1v1 Commander	Legal
Archenemy	Legal
Arena	Legal
Block Constructed	Legal
Canadian Highlander	Legal
Casual	Legal
Commander / EDH	Legal
Commander: Rule 0	Legal
Custom	Legal
Duel Commander	Legal
Freeform	Legal
Gladiator	Legal
Highlander	Legal
Legacy	Legal
Leviathan	Legal
Limited	Legal
Modern	Legal
Oathbreaker	Legal
Planar Constructed	Legal
Planechase	Legal
Quest Magic	Legal
Vanguard	Legal
Vintage	Legal

Discussion (42)

psionictemplar on Grixis Counter Burn

3 months ago

I agree that modern is an efficient and cutthroat format but that still doesn't justify your position. So let's look at your examples and why they don't really make the point you want them to make.

Grixis reanimator runs roughly 4 discard spells and about 8 counters total (some main, some side) which are there to compliment the rest of the deck. You have double that and have made that your theme/core part of your deck and that's a gigantic difference. You can say grixis runs both because that's technically correct, but you are missing the point of why. Grixis is doing it to setup it's win in the early game and only needs 1-2 spells resolved to win. Your deck is trying to survive early and grind the opponent down slowly which does not line up with what modern is as a format.

Dimir midrange runs the same 4 discard package as grixis but can run closer to the 12-16 counters range which is still less that what you are running. Also take into consideration that Subtlety has an alternate casting cost to help double spell when needed. And wouldn't you know it, they also run things like TAMIYO, Psychic Frog, and Quantum Riddler to help refill their hand so that they have enough counters when needed. You don't have that luxury here. If you compare the creatures you have with dimir midrange's yours are greatly outclassed which is another big difference. Frog and riddler can both lead to convincing wins that your creatures could only dream of. If you look at the overall plan of dimir midrange, you might notice that it plays to the board a fair bit. Your deck is trying to prevent a board from forming which is not the same.

So at the end of the day, no, I'm not wrong about this. Your examples don't support your case. You're just fixed in your views and not willing to adapt. If you have comparable reasons on why you think I'm wrong, I'm open to hearing them. I have no problem being wrong, but I need a good reason why. The someone did it before so it's still ok isn't it.

zapyourtumor on Mono Blue Delver (Tempo)

1 year ago

Its nice to see old cards being played but sadly there is a lot of outdated tech here.

Consider is better than Opt with snaps

Not running at least 3 CS is probably trolling

Tamiyo, Inquisitive Student  ^Flip is an option, although it definitely slower than delver. So is murktide.

For a tempo deck, you want cheap and efficient interaction, which 3 cryptic notably is not. Probably need 1 mana counters like Spell Snare Spell Pierce Stern Scolding in some split between main and side. Scolding in particular is usually sideboard material however since monoblue has garbage removal its probably good to mainboard 1-2 copies.

Fading Hope is probably? better than snag although I have a soft spot for snag.

I recommend some Subtlety and more FoNs over shoal. And probably extra fons in the side too.

The only advantage of monoblue over izzet or dimir is that Harbinger of the Seas becomes better so I'd put at least 2 in the side. And running fetches for deck thinning is not worth the 1 life.

Probably want more utility lands like Sink into Stupor  ^Flip, Otawara, Soaring City, Castle Vantress. The mdfc lands also pitch to your pitch spells.

What exactly are you siding in Commandeer against? Same with redirect, clique and shackles. And you have zero grave hate in the sideboard. In monoblue you don't have many options, so something like Soul-Guide Lantern, Surgical Extraction, Grafdigger's Cage. the first two are probably better. Hurkyl's Recall is ok vs affinity. Dress Down is good against several decks right now. I have no idea what monoblue should run vs energy and similar decks, there may not be anything better than Engineered Explosives or Ratchet Bomb. Maybe titi is good enough if you can turbo flip it.

Overall a lot of suggestions but I think in general I'd go something like this for the maindeck:

-4 opt -3 cryptic -1 redirect -4 vapor snag -1 disrupting shoal -1 snapcaster mage

+4 consider +2 counterspell +2 fading hope +1 spell snare +2 stern scolding +1 spell pierce +1 force of negation +1 subtlety

-6 fetches

+1 otawara +2 sink into stupor +1 castle vantress +2 island

Skysurfer on SlitherFlash

1 year ago

You dont really get anything out of Blacklance Paragon, can probably cut like ~2 lands if you already have 2 hydroelectric and you're running omen, and dirge bat and the extra ashioks (only 1-2 is really needed) are very slow for the format. I think if you cut those and throw in cheap interaction like ~3 Fatal Push, ~3-4 Counterspell and maybe something like Waterlogged Teachings  ^Flip for when your flooded this deck would go hard. For upgrades maybe 1-2 Archmage's Charm and Subtlety would be really good.

Nicklaffy2302 on White/Blue and Rude All Over

1 year ago

capwner I appreciate the help! I suppose I was on the fence whether to have more Solitude or Subtlety because of the potential for massive lifegain for my opponents. With your perspective and support of Solitude, I think I will make that change. I admit Thassa's OracleGC was a weird idea for sure lol. My idea behind it was incase I came across a mill deck, but that's fairly unlikely, so I would love to exchange it for some of those awesome sideboards you mentioned!

capwner on

2 years ago

Fringe Jank modern combo? Say no more I'm in. My only thought is to run 4 Subtlety because Subtlety is a wincon plus being interaction it's just phenomenal. And maybe Consign to Memory in the board to protect your stuff from World Breaker and friends?

wallisface on Using Disrupting Shoal

2 years ago

The problem as I see it, is that this spell is competing in the same space as all three of the blue-horizons free-spells: Force of Negation, Subtlety, and Flare of Denial.

Those horizons cards are a lot more flexible in what spells they can hit, a lot more forgiving in what cards you need to pitch, and can all be hardcast for a more reasonable/realistic cost. I’m not sure how Disrupting Shoal even remotely competes against them - and so i’m not sure how it would ever be a choice for a deck while those cards exist.

wallisface on Is dour port mage completely …

2 years ago

Bookrook again I would disagree it being "an auto-include in any blink deck". In Modern, for example, there are a bunch of "blink" decks that will utilize cards like Ephemerate or Phelia, Exuberant Shepherd, but not use Dour Port-Mage. As a value engine it's having to compete against the likes of Satoru, the Infiltrator, which also sees very little play, but which has a more easily abusable synergy with various strong creatures in the format (Solitude, Subtlety, Aether Vial, Cryptic Coat).

Dour Port-Mage is by no means a weak card, but it is a looonng way away from being an auto-include in any deck. The only deck currently running this card in Modern is one where the deck is specifically built around it - whereas there are multiple other blinking strategies that ignore this card entirely.

Looking further on MtgGoldfish, there are exactly zero decks running this card in both Pioneer and Standard. It's probably the case that these formats just don't have the resources to make use of the card, but it's also a pretty strong sign that it's nowhere-near an all-star.

Coward_Token on Modern Horizons 3

2 years ago

Here's hoping for Null versions of Subtlety's cycle, sure that will work out great this time