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|Commander 2019 (C19)||Uncommon|
|Ultimate Masters (UMA)||Uncommon|
|Commander 2015 (C15)||Uncommon|
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Return target instant or sorcery card from your graveyard to your hand.
Flashback (You may cast this card from your graveyard for its flashback cost. Then exile it.)
Mystic Retrieval Discussion
1 week ago
Hey, you're welcome. Been a while since I commented on your deck. I like the changes you've made. You've learned a lot in 9 months. The differences are huge, good job. Are you consistently winning?
I think your deck can use streamlining. What I see is lots of high mana cost redundancy which you don't need because it's making the avg. CMC very high, rounded up 4.0. It's high because there's too many high mana cost cards. Consider cutting several for low mana cost cards that draw? Remember you have your high mana cost card that you want to cast, it's sitting in the Command Zone.
Streamlining means cutting unnecessary cards such as Arcanis the Omnipotent , Venser's Journal , Time Stretch and Warstorm Surge . Arcanis is not needed because you have Consecrated Sphinx and Niv-Mizzet, Parun ; both will draw many more cards, even the turn you play them and are flying threats. Having three six drop flying threats is enough. Journal is high mana cost no max hand size effect which is not needed when you have three other low mana cost cards that are better that give you this effect. You have Time Warp and Beacon of Tomorrows so you don't also need to play Stretch since Stretch is 10 mana. Both Impact Tremors and Purphoros, God of the Forge are better than Surge and Surge is six mana.
Another part of your deck that could use some improvements is the manabase. 26x basic lands is a lot and you don't have to play so many because there's even budget playable lands you could add. I'll suggest budget lands and some nonbudget ones:
- Shivan Reef
- Ash Barrens
- Grixis Panorama
- Mystic Sanctuary
- Cephalid Coliseum
- Castle Vantress
- Fiery Islet
- City of Brass
- Reflecting Pool
Other cards to consider adding:
- Narset, Parter of Veils : busted with wheels because your opponents discard their hands and don't get to draw, only you draw.
- Trinket Mage : tutor for Skullclamp, Sol, or Leng. Gets you a win condition, ramp or no max hand size.
- Mystic Remora : one drop, one of the best sources of repeatable draw in multiplayer Commander.
- Brainstorm : one drop, draw three.
- Ponder : one drop draw.
- Preordain : one drop draw.
- Faithless Looting : one drop, draw two, flashback good with wheels.
- Winds of Change : one drop wheel.
- Treasure Cruise : delve is good with wheels, one drop, draw three.
- Molten Psyche : wheel.
- Arcane Signet
- Talisman of Creativity
- Shared Animosity : repeatable pump the power of all attacking Insects.
- Bident of Thassa : repeatable draw, draw a card for each Insect that does damage to a player.
- Narset's Reversal
- Chain of Vapor
- Chaos Warp
- Mystic Retrieval : flashback good with wheels.
Cards to consider cutting:
- Temple of the False God: can't tap for mana until you have five lands in play.
- Venser's Journal
- Arcanis the Omnipotent
- Time Stretch
- Warstorm Surge
- Mana Flare
- Jushi Apprentice / Tomoya the Revealer
- Psychic Spiral
- Windreader Sphinx
- Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur
- Gilded Lotus
- Darksteel Ingot
- Keep Watch
- Enter the Infinite
- Thought Reflection
- Fateful Showdown
2 weeks ago
Hey, good budget version of Saheeli. Interesting concept using X spells rather than more big colorless creatures.
Since you're trying to win with X cost instant/soceries then consider adding Mystical Tutor as one of the expensive price cards? Could cut Planar Bridge for it? Bridge is fine to cheat onto the battlefield, but still need to activate it's ability which is a lot. Cards that can recur Mystical such as Mystic Sanctuary and Mystic Retrieval could be added use Mystical again.
Consider adding other budget artifacts or cards that have interaction with artifacts? Cards to consider adding:
- Ash Barrens
- Buried Ruin
- Talisman of Creativity
- Everflowing Chalice
- Prismatic Lens
- Skullclamp : Servos are 1/1s.
- Foundry Inspector
- Kuldotha Forgemaster
- Goblin Welder
Talisman, Chalice and Lens are other budget two drop mana artifacts which are helpful to ramp into four drop Saheeli. Forgemaster and Welder are good when you have a repeatable source of 1/1 Servos. Being able to sac a Servo(s) to cheat a better artifact onto the battlefield. Forgemaster for it's comparable price can do a lot more than Master of Etherium . Because Servos are 1/1s then this makes Skullclamp repeatable draw which is good with Crawler. Skullclamp because you're trying to win with Crawler can do more for the comparable price than Mirage Mirror .
Cards to consider cutting:
- Izzet Cluestone
- Izzet Locket
- Prototype Portal
- Planar Bridge
- Mirage Mirror
- Master of Etherium
- Darksteel Juggernaut
- Metalwork Colossus
- Hellkite Igniter
Good luck with your deck.
2 months ago
Nice deck! though, were you going for simple? because that could change some of my suggestions...
Gonna take a break for now though. Let me know your thoughts and I'll continue looking at this later
maybe Pact of Negation
maaaaybe Necrotic Plague
potential card cut
remember, some things HAVE to go
Lingering Death and Rend Flesh and Chill to the Bone -- there are more refined solutions, such as Doom Blade and Go for the Throat Faster than lingering death and cheaper than rend flesh and chill to the bone. Slaughter Pact also could do the trick
Delirium -- if we're going for simple, this card misses the mark.
Red Elemental Blast -- cheap, and most often it is a blue spell that is the target. But this takes a counterspell slot and is pretty restricted.
2 months ago
Also for card-draw cards, why not double up on the good ones?
Deja Vu , Sage's Knowledge , The Mirari Conjecture , Archeomancer, Flood of Recollection , Mystic Retrieval , Relearn , Mnemonic Wall , Scribe of the Mindful , Spellkeeper Weird , Volcanic Vision , Shreds of Sanity , Fork , Wild Ricochet , Increasing Vengeance , Insidious Will , Narset's Reversal (super baller!), Reiterate , Reverberate , Twincast , Fury Storm , Mirror Sheen , Expansion / Explosion ,
3 months ago
To start, it combos with one of my favorite cards from last year's set, Reality Scramble , IDK how good that is, but it'd be a blast.
For real value, I think the deck looks to be a graveyard value control deck. Maybe a bit of prison, considering how you can become 'immortal' by enchanting Sevinne, the Chronoclasm with a Pariah , or equipping it with a Pariah's Shield .
Swiftfoot Boots , Champion's Helm , etc. to protect it, then abuse it's ability to combo with Flashback, like Deep Analysis , jumpstart like Chemister's Insight , retrace like Oona's Grace , and aftermath like Refuse / Cooperate
Total, there are a lot of good spells to abuse with it:
That's all I can think of right now, if I remember any more sweet cards with Sevinne, I'll tell you!
4 months ago
What are composite prinnies?
My folders aren't very organised. [Not My Commander] is my only folder where I include other people's decks, and literally only just started doing that a few days ago. Yours is the second one I've added, so I don't really have any context for it yet. Rest assured I like the idea of your deck a lot.
Yeah, no love lost for the Worldgorger Dragon here either. It needs more than decent support in the form of reanimation and countermagic, and if your deck isn't all about that then it's not necessarily a great fit. I just mentioned it because it's an interesting card that cares about exiled stuff. I won't be offended in the least if you don't adopt a suggestion of mine, in case you're concerned about that. It's your deck, dude. I'm just here to help.
Lion's Eye Diamond is crazy expensive, money-wise. For that reason, I personally don't think it's ever worth running unless you're building at least a somewhat competitive deck, unless you just happen to have one handy. On the other hand, if you do only play casually with friends then they probably won't mind if you run a tournament-illegal version of Yawgmoth's Will – there are gold-bordered signed collector's versions available for significantly less than the regular cost (with Yawgmoth's Will on magiccardmarket ATM, it's €7.00 as opposed to the official card that's €23.95). They don't have a standard MtG back on them though, so you'll need to be using sleeves to use them.
So, Doomsday . If you don't like it, then don't run it. But as I understand it, a lot of those packages run 3-4 draw spells, Laboratory Maniac , and maybe some countermagic support. Considering this is what's in your deck ATM, I'll run with that. It's another all-in strategy and once again; if your Lab Maniac gets countered or killed before you draw the card, it pretty much means that you lose. I know a lot of people run Gitaxian Probe and other super-cheap draw spells in this package, the idea being to cast them all in the one turn and then win. If you want to stick with the Flashback theme, there's Faithless Looting and Scour All Possibilities and Echo of Eons which you already run, and then there's Deep Analysis and Think Twice . None of these is particularly expensive money-wise. Also, I know this is exactly the opposite of what you're looking for, but if Doomsday is to be a legit wincon for this deck then you might want to reconsider cutting Mirror of Fate . It's rarely an amazing card, but in this deck if things are going well, basically stands to serve as a second Doomsday, which is exactly what every Doomsday deck wants.
As for the landbase, how exactly did you want to revise it? There are a lot of interesting things to be done with lands, but I've usually just forgone those when it comes to 4+ colour mana bases (particularly if budget means running slow fetch lands like Bad River as opposed to Polluted Delta ). Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth is good in any deck that uses black. I know you're not running any other Slivers, but Path of Ancestry is still a decent land in 5-colour decks that aren't high-end competitive - just read it as a Command Tower that enters tapped, which is still pretty great in non-competitive EDH. If you are okay with a couple of a taplands, Grand Coliseum is also great. On the other end, Tarnished Citadel is good for mana right now if you need it.
Now, for some suggestions on Flashback and other cards to cut.
I think you have just a couple too many recursion effects for instant and sorcery spells. Cards like Pull from the Deep are pretty decent because they get you two-for-one, as in you spend one card to gain access to two.
Conversely, something like Recoup probably isn't so good - it only gives you access to one card when you cast it, and you need to have the mana available to cast it that same turn. It's not an awful card, it has Flashback which both gives it more utility than for which I'm giving it credit and also fits this deck's theme. But you have an above-average amount of recursion spells and if you are actively looking for something to cut, this'd be something I'd recommend.
I think Sins of the Past is a decent card, but not great unless you have a number of really great bombs in your deck. If you don't have a fair number of high-cost, high-impact spells to target with it, it becomes an expensive 1-for-1. Similarly, Mystic Retrieval can be good when things are going your way and it sort of fits the theme, but in the early- to mid-game it can really suck to be left with only this card in your hand. When making cuts, you'll generally want to cut the cards that, at some points of the game, do straight-up nothing. Unfortunately, Mystic Retrieval kinda fits the bill here.
All Suns' Dawn is a great recursion spell, but less good when you lean away from a few colours. Considering you already have a number of other great spells in your deck, I don't know about this one in this scenario. I think basically, you'll want a few low-end and a few high-end recursion spells.
Some cards I would cut when push comes to shove —
4 months ago
"One-card wincons" to consider: Insurrection , Expropriate , Painful Quandary , Rise of the Dark Realms , Revel in Riches , Cut / Ribbons . Perhaps Clone Legion , Rite of Replication , Mogis, God of Slaughter , Hour of Promise , Blatant Thievery , Grave Betrayal , or Mind's Dilation .
One thing to think about is getting Nicol Bolas flipped and maybe joined by the other planeswalkers and casting Obliterate , Jokulhaups , Devastation , or Decree of Annihilation . Almost guaranteed ultimates. Nicol Bolas, Dragon-God would be the best--proxy for now and include in first build?
Boardwipes: Toxic Deluge , Black Sun's Zenith , Hour of Devastation , Decree of Pain , Curse of the Swine , In Garruk's Wake , Deadly Tempest , Evacuation , Nevinyrral's Disk , Last One Standing , Perilous Vault , Oblivion Stone , Kindred Dominance , Necromantic Selection , Subterranean Tremors
Removal: Capsize , Bedevil , Hero's Downfall , Chaos Warp , Kolaghan's Command , Reality Shift , Pongify , Rapid Hybridization , Vraska's Contempt , Rakdos Charm , Price of Fame , In Bolas's Clutches , Plaguecrafter , Merciless Executioner , Fleshbag Marauder , Unstable Obelisk , Vandalblast , By Force , Shatterstorm , Hostage Taker , Yawgmoth's Vile Offering , Settle the Score , Dark Impostor , Hour of Glory , Sever the Bloodline , Silence the Believers , Spread the Sickness , Slave of Bolas , Electrodominance
Draw: (I would add Erebos once you're home) Patient Rebuilding , Phyrexian Arena , Greed , Arguel's Blood Fast Flip, Notion Thief , Windfall , Mystical Tutor , Blue Sun's Zenith , Pull from Tomorrow , Stroke of Genius , Braingeyser , Mind Spring , Expansion / Explosion , Invoke the Firemind , Deliver Unto Evil , Augur of Bolas , Painful Truths , Fevered Visions , Search for Azcanta Flip, Fact or Fiction , Dig Through Time , Treasure Cruise , Tidings , Thassa, God of the Sea , Day's Undoing , Reforge the Soul , Standstill , Deep Analysis , Necrologia , Steady Progress , Tezzeret's Gambit , Oath of Jace
Random utility: Ophiomancer , Metallurgic Summonings , As Fortold, Pendrell Mists , No Mercy , Stranglehold , Fated Return , Dark Intimations , Spellseeker , Sire Of Insanity , Thief of Sanity , Spark Double , Primal Amulet Flip, Dragon's Hoard , Mystic Retrieval , Shreds of Sanity , Spelltwine , Ashiok, Dream Render , Torpor Orb , Baleful Strix , Darksteel Myr , Solemn Simulacrum , Wayfarer's Bauble , Vedalken Orrery , Saheeli, Sublime Artificer , Will Kenrith , Mana Geyser , Gem of Becoming , Thran Dynamo , Narset, Parter of Veils , Keranos, God of Storms , Thrilling Encore , Star Compass , Coldsteel Heart , Kazuul, Tyrant of the Cliffs , Ensnaring Bridge , Crawlspace , Expedition Map , Burnished Hart , Torment of Scarabs , Cruel Reality , Mnemonic Betrayal , Yawgmoth's Will , Bloodchief Ascension , Nightscape Familiar , Gonti, Lord of Luxury , Thaumatic Compass Flip, Dreadhorde Invasion , Fraying Omnipotence , Thrummingbird , Viral Drake , Past in Flames , Mizzix's Mastery , Omniscience , Tainted AEther , Aid the Fallen , Deepglow Skate , Flux Channeler , Rings of Brighthearth , Silent Arbiter , Meekstone , Mudslide , Astral Cornucopia , Everflowing Chalice , Lethal Vapors , Sunbird's Invocation , Stolen Strategy , Maze of Ith , Spreading Plague , Merchant Scroll , Polluted Bonds , Black Market , Grave Upheaval , Memory Plunder , Pain Magnification
Beaters: Dragonlord Silumgar , The Scorpion God , The Locust God , The Scarab God , God-Eternal Kefnet , God-Eternal Bontu , Darksteel Colossus , Colossus of Akros , Visara the Dreadful , Tsabo Tavoc , Avatar of Woe , Balefire Dragon , Nicol Bolas , Hellkite Tyrant , Bladewing the Risen , Grave Titan , Inferno Titan , Steel Hellkite , Vampire Nighthawk , Torrential Gearhulk , Noxious Gearhulk , Combustible Gearhulk , Dominus of Fealty , Roil Elemental , Tidespout Tyrant , Kokusho, the Evening Star , Keiga, the Tide Star , Ryusei, the Falling Star , Wrexial, the Risen Deep , Etali, Primal Storm , Nezahal, Primal Tide , Tetzimoc, Primal Death , Dread , The Haunt of Hightower , Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind , Razaketh, the Foulblooded , Enigma Drake , Crackling Drake , Archfiend of Depravity , Sheoldred, Whispering One , Thing in the Ice Flip, Niv-Mizzet, Parun , Sepulchral Primordial , Molten Primordial , Diluvian Primordial , Ob Nixilis, Unshackled , Sire of Stagnation , Utvara Hellkite
5 months ago
(saw your post on tumblr and had to come and suggest stuff, but feel free to ignore, I'm just trying to throw some ideas out to help out!)
I think counterspells aren't very good as signature spells (but I don't have much experience with Oathbreaker). If you're going for flavor I think Expansion / Explosion , Izzet Charm or Turn//Burn could work. (It could also be fun to build a Harnessed Lightning energy-themed deck for Ral, Storm Conduit :x)
I think that instead of running a lot of creatures with tap (or untap) abilities it would be easier to focus on artifacts for the ramp/card draw/etc with cards like Clock of Omens , Key to the City , Staff of Nin (), Unwinding Clock , Chaos Wand , Oracle's Vault () and a bunch of mana rocks ( Mind Stone , Pyramid of the Pantheon (), Coalition Relic (), Talisman of Creativity , Star Compass , Hedron Archive , Basalt Monolith and Khalni Gem ). Animation Module can add counters to planeswalkers, so that could be fun too.
Reality Shift is probably the best creature single target removal in blue.
I'd cut down on the number of X damage spells you're running and rely more on having some graveyard recursion/tutoring to make it more consistent. Mystic Retrieval would be my choice to run along with Archeomancer. Mizzix's Mastery is also pretty good, but probably better if you're focusing on spellslinging.
Vandalblast and Shenanigans (or maybe Release the Gremlins for the cuteness) are good artifact removal. Geistblast is a interesting Flashback spell that actually should be like Amonkhet's Aftermath. Insidious Will 's versatility shouldn't be underestimated.
(aaand I already suggested too much. Like I said, feel free to ignore. Can't wait to see the finished deck. I hope something from this mess helps!)
Mystic Retrieval occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.02%
UR (Izzet): 0.83%