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- Mana Geyser + Reiterate
- Desperate Ritual + Lightning Bolt + Reiterate
- Lightning Bolt + Reality Spasm + Reiterate
- Lightning Bolt + Mana Geyser + Reiterate
- Lightning Bolt + Reiterate + Reset
- Dramatic Reversal + Reiterate
|Commander / EDH||Legal|
|Commander: Rule 0||Legal|
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Buyback (You may pay an additional as you cast this spell. If you do, put this card into your hand as it resolves.)
Copy target instant or sorcery spell. You may choose new targets for the copy.
6 days ago
@ GrimlockVIII thank you for the Upvote and suggestions for my deck!
The deck tries to make a win attempt around turns 5 to 7 and Avenger of Zendikar is a bit slow for that without dedicated landfall. Don't get me wrong I like Avenger of Zendikar and it is an all star in my Kruphix Lands Matter *Primer* list.
Further more Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker + Zealous Conscripts is the easiest way this deck has to win. Gruul is good at tutoring for creatures but not instants and sorceries. The other combo lines rely on using at least one instant or sorcery and thus must be found using card draw. Consequently I have found it is almost always wrong to cast Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker or Zealous Conscripts for value. If one of them is in hand the goal is card draw to find a tutor to fetch the other.
Curious Herd looks like it would be a lot of fun in a more chill wort list. My strategy during the early game is ramp and token creation (to use to conspire spells latter). Once I cast Wort the strategy becomes card draw by conspiring draw spells. This means I try and keep most of the token creation at 2 CMC. The exceptions are of course:
Hordeling Outburst (3 CMC) It creates red tokens. This can matter as most of the ritual effects and card draw are red and need red creatures to conspire. If we get another Dragon Fodder / Krenko's Command functional reprint Hordeling Outburst will be replaced.
1 month ago
@Neko25: Hey there, thanks for your comment. I already play Haze of Rage. Reiterate is on my wish-list, unfortunately i don't have it yet. But there a some interesting card's in your list, which i'm going to try out, like Spell Swindle, Finale of Revelation, Seething Anger and Temporal Fissure.
1 month ago
Could I recommend adding in Reiterate? It's (if anything) a more powerful infinite combo piece than Dualcaster Mage + Twinflame or Dualcaster Mage + Heat Shimmer . Given enough mana to pay its buyback cost, it typically results in both infinite mana and infinite cast triggers with Inner Fire, Battle Hymn or Brightstone Ritual. It can even feed off of Seething Song if you have at least 2 or 3 of Runaway Steam-Kin, Helm of Awakening and Ruby Medallion on the field.
1 month ago
No, they will eventually have to make another choice for Reiterate.
725.3. Sometimes a loop can be fragmented, meaning that each player involved in the loop performs an independent action that results in the same game state being reached multiple times. If that happens, the active player (or, if the active player is not involved in the loop, the first player in turn order who is involved) must then make a different game choice so the loop does not continue.
1 month ago
If I cast Mana Geyser and Reiterate w/ buyback it for infinite mana and my opponent has a [Wandering Archaic]] and i can't pay the 2 for either the Geyser or the first Reiterate, can they force the game into a draw by targeting my Reiterate with their copy ?
2 months ago
I think Spelltwine doesn't work with your commander, because you are copying the cards and casting them instead of copying the spell. If that's right than Mizzix's Mastery and Arcane Bombardment also wouldn't work, sadly. Maybe they are good enough to keep anyway? Not sure. Cards with the Cipher mechanic are also so close to working but I don't think they do. This is actually kind of hard to brew around! Ugh, God-Eternal Kefnet wouldn't work either, ew.
Immolating Gyre and Volcanic Vision are really good boardwipes in a spells-y deck... as is Cyclonic Rift, which you definitely should still run. In fact, all the overload spells are pretty sweet here, since they only target things you don't control, so if you copy them opponent's can't even pay the 4 life to hit one of your things. Makes Vandalblast and friends possibly worth it.
It will be interesting to see if Lithoform Engine or Pyromancer's Goggles will be good enough here (I like Primal Amulet Flip). Maybe more spells that copy spells are better than these chunkier repeatable ones? Things like Galvanic Iteration or Reiterate if you like the buyback better. Or Increasing Vengeance for the beefier flashback. Hell, if its politics Bonus Round could be really fun. Chef's Kiss is a newer one that I forgot about
Maybe this is the kind of deck where Thrilling Encore shines?
Is Stunning Reversal here to try and copy and save other people with?? Seems like it may not be good enough when you have access to blue for card draw/protection anyway.
I wish, as I always do, that Cloven Casting wasn't soooo bad. Or like, any of the cards with Replicate. Those would be so perfect. Maybe Shattering Spree is good enough but I think it isn't. Ugh, that makes me think about how you're definitely supposed to play storm cards in this deck. Are there any storm cards that aren't miserable? Mind's Desire maybe...
Is Charmbreaker Devils good enough?
Wild Ricochet is an oldie but maybe enough of a goodie here with the copying theme?
Harmonic Prodigy since your commander is a wizard isn't a terrible idea...
Humble Defector might be too cute.
Cruel Ultimatum is the ultimate chunky spell and you're even in the right colors for it!
Also Chaos Warp is still good enough as universal instant speed removal and kind of fun/politics-y as well
2 months ago
you answered your own question "I do understand that copies are not cast" / "if this spell was cast from a graveyard".
also Fritzn is correct "something else to keep in mind is Increasing Vengeance cannot copy itself." the portion that says "you may chose new targets for the copies" can be confusing but to make more sense of it divide the card up by each sentence
Copy target instant or sorcery spell you control.
at this stage you have declared your target and a copy is placed on the stack
If Increasing Vengeance was cast from a graveyard, copy that spell twice instead.
if requirements are met a second copy of "that spell" is placed on the stack
You may choose new targets for the copies.
if you keep in mind the first two sentences have already resolved the target spell to be copied has already been copied and on the stack so you can only choose legal targets of that spell
i hope that helps
p.s. to make Kalamax, the Stormsire infinitely huge simply cast Twincast, Fork, Reiterate, or Reverberate in response to anything one of your opponents cast and as long as kalamax is tapped you can use his copy to loop. but keep in mind none of the combos listed this far will net +1 copy and since copying does not count as casting it does not up storm counts so none of the suggestions on this thread will help your Grapeshot
2 months ago
Hey there! Awesome brew! Some recs in case you haven't already thought of them:
Hamletback Goliath janky but fun
Reiterate since you are already running Mana Geyser with the right amount of lands untapped this can net you infinite mana. A secondary rec with this combo in mind would be Sword of the Paruns as a mana sink to continually untap Brion.
Serene Master janky but also fun
Inspiring Statuary to help you with casting spells