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Test of Endurance
At the beginning of your upkeep, if you have 50 or more life, you win the game.
6 days ago
This deck was an idea to use some of my old cards, and also see just how nuts I could go with Kwain, Itinerant Meddler. This deck is a spider-web of synergy and combos, multiple infinite combos, and complete bonkers level shenanigans lurking behind a friendly-looking magic rabbit. This is not a budget deck, but in a gracious nod to Lewis Carroll, it is incredibly fun to go "down the rabbit-hole".
At it's core, the deck is group hug with card-draw, card based mana-ramp, and multiple options for life-gain. I use a few card-draw creatures as well, such as Shabraz, the Skyshark for their synergy with Kwain. Alternate win conditions include Approach of the Second Sun, Jace's Archivist, Windfall, Jace, Wielder of Mysteries, Triskaidekaphile, and Test of Endurance; but the deck is also perfectly capable of beating someone to death with a giant fish - or a giant anything thanks to numerous life-gain options paired with an Archangel of Thune.
The deck has several prison elements with Moat, Silent Arbiter, and Archon of Emeria, as well as Propaganda, Ghostly Prison, and Sphere of Safety. Silent Arbiter and Crawlspace help directly reduce the deck's exposure to attack, along with Gwafa Hazid, Profiteer for any specific threats or "when attacks" triggers. Finally, since this deck does not rely on creatures or doing damage to win, and generates lots of cards in hand, Meishin, the Mind Cage is an easy way to reduce all opponents' creatures to 0 power. For direct damage and targeted attacks outside of combat, the deck includes The Wanderer and Greater Auramancy.
Card draw, treasure tokens, and unlimited hand-size combine with four different Tutors, an Urza's Saga, and a Teferi's Puzzle Box help you keep multiple options in hand, and hopefully keep Kwain hopping one or two steps ahead of your opponents (Remember to use the tutors before your Teferi's Puzzle Box hits the board). Tidal Barracuda, and Vedalken Orrery let you cast anything on anyone's turn. Walking Atlas helps get rid of lands anytime it's not tapped (another combo with Mind Over Matter), and Drumbellower and Teferi, Who Slows the Sunset make sure you're able to untap on every turn, so you can play cards anytime - including win-cons like Laboratory Maniac or Jace's Archivist on an opponent's end-step, then draw for the win.
Circling back to Sphere of Safety - the deck runs 18 enchantments natively, but also features Enchanted Evening to turn everyone's permanents into enchantments. (The deck also conveniently includes Cleansing Nova to destroy all enchantments, which is an absolutely devastating total board wipe when paired with Enchanted Evening, especially if you have Avacyn, Angel of Hope in play on your side). With Enchanted Evening on the board and Sphere of Safety, every permanent you control also counts toward your opponents' cost to attack you for each creature they target you with. Comboing Enchanted Evening, Avacyn, Angel of Hope, and Greater Auramancy means every permanent has both indestructible and shroud, and prevents your planeswalkers from being targeted (or targeted for attacks) directly.
I am only running two counterspells, Mana Drain and Force of Negation, so the deck uses Dovescape to lock down any stray non-creature spells, as well as Tidal Barracuda and ultimately Forced Fruition to further reduce any errant spellcasting. And in this deck, Dovescape not only helps creates magnitudes of tokens, but each of those tokens is potentially an enchantment when it hits the board. With Enchanted Evening in play, those tokens, or ... literally ... any ... other card you play, combos off Archon of Sun's Grace to instantly create infinite (enchantment) pegasus tokens, and become effectively a 1 card infinite combo of 2/2 flying (avoiding Moat) lifelink pegasus. Every. Single. Time. any permanent hits the board under your control after you have both in play.
The Deck includes a The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale to help keep down on the riff-raff, (plus kill off a few billion pegasus every turn), and helps tie up opponent's mana; meshing with the prison cards we already use. For its own mana, there are some basic mana-rocks and a Smothering Tithe to help offset some of the higher casting cost spells if Braids, Conjurer Adept is not on the board.
The Smothering Tithe pairs well with sheer card-draw provided through Forced Fruition, Temple Bell, Kami of the Crescent Moon, and Kwain, Itinerant Meddler to almost guarantee several dozen treasure tokens each turn and help the deck rapidly ramp to maintain both card and board advantage towards casting an Omniscience.
More combo madness, Teferi's Puzzle Box helps spin through the deck looking for lands and combo solutions. Teferi's Puzzle Box also combos really well with Shabraz, the Skyshark and Alhammarret's Archive, effectively doubling the card-draw effect of Teferi's Puzzle Box each draw phase - and Sphinx of the Second Sun provides double the draw-phases per turn, so you're geometrically quadrupling your cards in hand each turn (and possibly playing them for free). And, for every card you draw, the shark is growing, your life is growing, and if you have the Archangel of Thune, everything else is growing too.
If you want to discard cards from your hand, to hit Triskaidekaphile for instance, or just go infinite with your commander, you can use Mind Over Matter, Omniscience, or Peace of Mind to manipulate your hand-size and either play or discard. The deck includes an Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre, Timetwister and Elixir of Immortality to shuffle your graveyard back into your hand, as well as Displacer Kitten and Angel of Finality to exile your opponents' graveyards with a quick bounce.
Kwain, Itinerant Meddler + (any of the above) == even more nuts
There's more I could write about with additional combos and card interactions, but those are the highlights. The deck is just all-out madness to play and can quietly build and recycle cards until it comes out of nowhere with an 600/600 flying shark. I enjoy it. I hope you will as well.
1 month ago
I'd suggest you have a look at this modern legal lifegain deck and set the format to modern.
3 months ago
The other approach is to win with combos or alternate win cons. A favorite combo is Sanguine Bond/Vito, Thorn of the Dusk Rose + Exquisite Blood to drain everyone's life totals. A second way is to flash out Test of Endurance or Felidar Sovereign on your opponents' end step with Leyline of Anticipation or Vedalken Orrery and win with an alternate win con. A third way is to cast and quickly re-draw into Approach of the Second Sun and win that way. Along the way you can hold up mana for counterspells to protect your win cons from disruption.
Of course, these approaches can be combined as well! It's just about getting the right shell, finding which win con approach wins for you, and building your deck with that in mind. If you want to connect with some other veteran Oloro players, ladypickleton has been playing for some time, could definitely give you some advice, and you can check out their decklist here- Life: Gains & Pains. You could also reference one of the top primers on Oloro over the years on tappedout here- The Immortal King: The Fable of Oloro [cEDH]. This primer is more geared towards cEDH and a higher budget, but it hasn't always been that way, and it is a great guide that should help out as well.
3 months ago
Hi ladypickleton! This looks like fun! Oloro is what drew me into commander, and I always envisioned myself building him, though strangely I never did! Since you're running Sanguine Bond and Exquisite Blood I am guessing you aren't averse to combos. I know you've run this for awhile, so maybe you tried flashing out Test of Endurance or Felidar Guardian with Leyline of Anticipation, Vedalken Orrery, or, in the latter case, Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir. I always thought that would be a fun alternative win con. I'd also think that Propaganda and Norn's Annex could be good complements to Crawlspace and Ghostly Prison if you need more pillowfort elements. Beyond that Teferi's Ageless Insight and Alhammarret's Archive can be good draw more pieces, and Sigarda's Splendor and Cosmos Elixir, while pricey in mana, can be great draw engines in a lifegain deck.
3 months ago
In my personal experience sitting across from one, and from seeing videos of people using it online, and from being in LGSs with it on field, what I have generally found is this; It generally falls into two broad categories: Those who are actively seeking to stop someone who has slighted them, or those who are actively trying to stall the game out.
Sometimes, a player will use it as the ultimate F-U to someone who has had a history with them, be it a traditional history or something that was happening that game or afternoon. I've heard of players dropping this only to immediately take someone off the census. In that case, it's more of a power move to try and assert dominance within the game because somehow laying a piece of cardstock on the table and paying an imaginary cost to cause someone to lose an imaginary game has weight and merit.
Otherwise, the more typical use seems to be threads of intimidation. There really isn't a reason to use it, so it just sits there. It becomes a bargaining chip for people to dance around. The funny thing is when someone is having a ton of fun and doesn't care if they win or lose so they throw everything they've got just to make that player deposit 50 life into the void. You may have lost the game but you did what essentially amounts to 50 damage on the way out so it really can't be considered an L.
If your intention is to use AR as a wincon, I mean good luck. You're going to need to gain somewhere between 100 - 150 life at minimum and likely more as everyone starts assaulting you like it was mid-2020.
Honestly, there's really no reason to play a card like this. As fun as it may be, fighting the entire game to 70 life just to willing drop yourself to 20 which puts you in God's reach is kind of silly. Once you're ahead, you should stay ahead and do everything you can to ensure you don't move from there. With that much life, you'd be better off using other cards such as Test of Endurance which is going to be hella hard on your opponents because enchantment removal tends to be the least prominent kind of removal. Just yeet yourself out for a minute and win the game.
3 months ago
Most of the folks in the comments above have already proposed a lot of good cards.
In terms of ramps, some that I use in my mono-white angel tribal deck that also focus on lifegain are:
- Arcane Signet (thank you, captain obvious)
- Marble Diamond is a reliable 2CMC rock producing . It enters tapped, but it still the best you can get for cheap.
- Tooth of Ramos is helpful if you need to accelerate one turn.
- Heraldic Banner I find great in decks that are focusing on attacking, which is something your commander wants.
- Mind Stone only produces , but for mono white the card draw ability is a precious plus.
- Pearl Medallion is not the cheapest card to acquire, but the discount on casting cost is incredibly useful, especially later in the game
- Wayfarer's Bauble is still land rampt that can be used in white.
Other cards I found useful in my deck and I could recommend:
- Treasure Map Flip: the card selection ability can be useful to optimize your draw, then it becomes and additional land that gives you either extra ramp or card draw with the treasures.
- Oath of Lieges is a simmetrical effect, but in mono white you'll be likely to benefit from it the most, especially if there are greedy Green and Simic players at the table.
In terms of win conditions other than combat, in my deck I used an older card called Test of Endurance, an alternative of which could be Felidar Sovereign. The big problem is that they are very much telegraphed, so you'd have to be able to protect both them and your life total until the following turn. Since you will be playing a lot of spells and gaining a lot of life, an unoriginal card that could help you close the game is of course Aetherflux Reservoir.
4 months ago
Maybe Test of Endurance?
4 months ago
I saw your comment linking here on my Djeru list! I like using Felidar Sovereign and Test of Endurance as win conditions here because mono white is quite adept at building a pillow fort. I would recommend adding Maze of Ith and Thaumatic Compass Flip to your list over Windborn Muse and Ghostly Prison because the latter two don't protect your walkers and often are low impact effects in the grand scheme of the game, especially since you already have those effects on other creatures as well. Also, since you are running Heliod, Sun-Crowned I'd imagine Walking Ballista is worth a slot.