Adarkar Wastes

Land

{T}: Add {C}.

{T}: Add {W} or {U}. This deals 1 damage to you.

Legality

Format	Legality
1v1 Commander	Legal
Alchemy	Legal
Archenemy	Legal
Arena	Legal
Block Constructed	Legal
Canadian Highlander	Legal
Casual	Legal
Commander / EDH	Legal
Commander: Rule 0	Legal
Custom	Legal
Duel Commander	Legal
Gladiator	Legal
Highlander	Legal
Historic	Legal
Historic Brawl	Legal
Legacy	Legal
Leviathan	Legal
Limited	Legal
Modern	Legal
Modern Beyond Horizons	Legal
Oathbreaker	Legal
Pioneer	Legal
Planar Constructed	Legal
Planechase	Legal
Pre-release	Legal
Premodern	Legal
Quest Magic	Legal
Standard	Legal
Standard Brawl	Legal
Tiny Leaders	Legal
Vanguard	Legal
Vintage	Legal

Discussion (49)

Bishoprage on The Queen's Egg

2 weeks ago

Mortlocke

Thanks for the detailed response! I have always loved strategy games and been aware of Magic but never really dove in. I'm throughly enjoying searching around for cards and seeing how different cards can work together. Sadly I just can't afford cards over say $100 right now. I think my wife would burn me at a stake if she knew I splurged for the Sliver Queen *oversized*!

I am definitely going to use Windfall to replace Wheel of Fortune. That just makes sense to me, basically the same effect with the only variable being drawing less than 7 cards.

Three Tree City also seems like a 1 for 1 for Gaea's Cradle. Yes, slightly less efficient but much more manageable budget wise. I wasn't aware of this card! Thank you!

I actually, settled on the Pain Lands after my last post. However, it's not a 1 for 1 swap for the original 10 duals because your list already included Adarkar Wastes and Yavimaya Coast. So, I just need to find replacements for Tropical Island and Tundra. Which I think will be Overflowing Basin and Skycloud Expanse. Sadly, the Sack lands will only be able to find the Shocks but it is what it is. I can't imagine having a Triome and it coming in tapped and not being able to play a card because of it. I again wasn't aware of the Filter Lands! Thank you x2!

So the only replacement card I need to think more about is Mox DiamondGC. Do you think I should stick with a mana rock? Or can I get away with another utility Sliver or interaction? Diffusion Sliver, Morophon, the Boundless, Teferi's ProtectionGC, Heroic Intervention, Mystical TutorGC where the cards I've been eyeing.

Thank you x3!

DreadKhan on Ramos, Counters Engine

3 weeks ago

After taking a look, I think I've found some cards that can have issues that you might want to switch out:

Re: Lands, Ancient Den is an artifact, which means it dies to stuff like Vandalblast or Austere Command, IMHO if you want any artifact lands you should look at Indestructible ones like your Bridge. There are also 'pain' lands, such as Adarkar Wastes or Brushland, but it's a complete cycle of 10 lands. Similarly I'd cut Public Thoroughfare and Temple of the False God, I sometimes run Temple but you really want more than 31 lands for it to work. I'd personally run closer to 36 lands in here, but your land count can vary based on your deck's average MV and how much ramp you run. If you run 36 lands you could keep Temple more safely, but I feel like it won't work all the time and it will feel really bad when it doesn't.

Re: Creatures, I don't think Esper Stormblade is a good fit in Commander (you'd want something like Baleful Strix IMHO), Fortress Kin-Guard feels meh, and I'm not sure if you have enough Modular creatures for Arcbound Overseer. Metastatic Evangel can be good if you've got a lot of counter synergy, and it's weirdly cheap for a card with that high of a ceiling. Evolution Witness similarly will play well with counter sources.

Re: Instants, Assert Authority seems awful, maybe just run Dispersal Shield? Cancel/Sinister Sabotage aren't very good cards, and they are mono-colour to boot, maybe try something like Absorb, Render Silent, or another counter that is 2 or 3 colours?

Re: Sorceries, Lingering Souls/Spectral Procession aren't great in Commander. Maybe Visions of Glory (it's only 4 mana to Flashback with your Commander) or if you've got some extra money Farmer Cotton is really good when I've used him.

The rest seems more reasonable for your budget/power level. Hope this helps!

BioProfDude on New to Pioneer. *HELP*

5 months ago

Well, I agree that additional dual lands are good, but Port Town is one of the worst. I'd suggest maybe 2x Cavern of Souls as you are heavy on spirits, and replace Port Town with 4x Seachrome Coast, and add 4x Adarkar Wastes. Probably 2x to 4x Hengegate Pathway  ^Flip would also be useful. I'd also add 2x Eiganjo, Seat of the Empire, 1x Otawara, Soaring City, and 2x Mutavault as your Supreme Phantom anthem will apply to an activated Mutavault because it is "all creature types."

I don't see any removal and that's needed in Pioneer. Probably 3x or 4x Get Lost would help. Probably 2x Sheltered by Ghosts would also be useful and would be great protection for your Spell Queller.

Honestly, I'd lose the 3x Lunarch Veteran  ^Flip, max out on Spell Queller and add 2x Mockingbird.

Just some thoughts-- hope this helps! +1 from me!

I would add that Curious Obsession is a good card, but I don't know that it is great in this deck. Try it out, but I could see cutting it to make room for the removal.

GangstaFranksta on Arcades, the Strategist's Army

1 year ago

You should think about adding The Pride of Hull Clade because he is good but also cool. But I think you would benefit a lot from improving your mana base. I suggest it should look more like this:

Lands

Basic

8x Plains, 8 Island, 4 Forest

Pain

Adarkar Wastes, Brushland, Yavimaya Coast

Scry Lands

Temple of Mystery, Temple of Enlightenment, Temple of Plenty

Tri Color

Brokers Hideout, Seaside Citadel, Bant Panorama

Any Color

Command Tower, Exotic Orchard

If you wanted you could also add the gain 1 life lands: Tranquil Cove, Blossoming Sands, and Thornwood Falls. You may also consider adding Krosan Verge or Myriad Landscape just to help ramp.

It would also be really beneficial to have at least a Sol Ring and an Arcane Signet.

Other

Remove Verity Circle. Seems like there are a lot of possibilities where it is just sitting on the field not providing any value. And it isn't even a creature so it can't block. You could replace this with one of the mana artifacts I mentioned earlier or like a Swords to Plowshares, Pongify, Rapid Hybridization, Path to Exile (I kind of think you need some more removal lol, but you could replace Verity Circle with whatever you wanted.)

Remove Alive / Well. Just straight up not worth. Replace with one of the cards I have mentioned.

Other than that I think this is a really good deck. I think you could use most of my suggestions and keep it close to $100.

DreadKhan on Ur-Dragon (Recs. Needed)

1 year ago

I'll give you a few tips from my limited experience with 5 Colour decks and how they achieve their mana requirements.

My first point is that combining the Bounce Guild lands with numerous ETB tapped lands will feel incredibly bad, I would definitely throw in more untapped lands if you're going to use that many Bounce lands. I love the Bounce lands, but they should be played mostly with other lands that ETB untapped, like Basic lands, bouncing an ETB tapped land is not fun in my experience.

I would encourage you to lean into Green ramp, there is lots of it that's very good, including options that find dual lands that have Basic types (or even Triomes if your budget permits, but there are budget fetchable duals out there). To make that Green ramp work you probably would want more Forests because a Forest and ramp spell can fix your mana for you.

Another thing I noticed that helps 5 Colour decks is the fact that you can use budget fetchlands of all sorts. The worst of my favourite 3 is Myriad Landscape, followed by Blighted Woodland and Krosan Verge. Krosan Verge can technically find all 5 colours by itself if you use Triomes, because it can find non-Basics, but there is also Murmuring Bosk to help. In addition to these types of fetchlands, you might find some use for the old Panorama cycle from Alara, Esper Panorama, Jund Panorama, Bant Panorama, Grixis Panorama, and Naya Panorama. None of those are truly great cards, but in a pinch they both enter untapped while eventually offering good fixing. A nice perk to using more Basics is that you are better at enduring non-Basic hate, not sure if people use stuff like that in your area.

Their is the odd good land worth looking at if you want budget mana fixing, the pain lands Sulfurous Springs or Adarkar Wastes are very strong fixing options that are relatively cheap, people use these in budget cEDH builds, they're perfect if you want good non-Basics for a low price, the Enemy pair from that cycle (Shivan Reef and Caves of Koilos are generally quite cheap, the Ally pairs are pricy). There is also the odd land like Exotic Orchard that can fix pretty well, but most 5 colour lands that enter untapped are pricey.

My final suggestion is that I found it helpful to run more ramp than usual in my 5 Colour decks, as well as more lands total. My 5 Colour Sisay deck has 39 lands and iirc over 20 ramp spells/effects (some work as combo pieces), and my Reaper King deck has 38 lands and around 15 ramp sources. It's a big hassle to get 5 colours consistently, but if you straight up run extra lands and ramp it becomes much easier.

A few more general pointers, I noticed you don't have Crux of Fate in here, it's usually pretty good in a Dragon deck. You also might like Stinging Study as a big draw spell. It's usually not as good as Stinging Study, but Imposing Grandeur also exists. Bring to Light and Wargate are two pretty strong tutors, perfect if you want to power your deck up a bit.

plakjekaas on Are the Original Dual Lands …

1 year ago

The current landbases don't prevent the 5c goodstuff from happening. That's no reason to withhold them. Duals would be equally vulnerable to Blood Moon as fetches and shocks are.

Meta impact: Burn would drop win% if shocks weren't needed anymore, because players would have more life in their fetch-manabase.

The best argument made is that, with the duals legal in the format, there's no reason for other interesting two-color lands anymore. Pioneer is already reduced to shocklands (Hallowed Fountain ), fastlands (Seachrome Coast ), painlands (Adarkar Wastes ) and pathways (Hengegate Pathway  ^Flip ), with the occasional Deserted Beach-type lands for slower decks. Introduce the duals there, and nobody would care for Pathways anymore. Not much added to the format, just some possible play patterns eliminated because they'd've been "strictly bettered" and homogenized out of the format.

Not necessarily too powerful in their effect, just boring in their consistency, in a way that can't be fixed in the future.

Arrzarrina on Roon Shenanigans

2 years ago

19/01/2023 changes: There have been a few rounds of changes. Removed counterspells to attempt to make the deck to make more fun to play against, sold the Mox Diamond because it's become worth a mint in the last 7 years, added more draw and refocused the deck on creature ETB based interaction instead of something like Oblivion Ring. It's a good card but I don't get the value that I could get out of a Fiend Hunter. You know where I'm going with this. I've also added more mana fixing to the land base and adjusted colours for the new balance.

Removed:

• - 1x Akroma, Angel of Wrath
• - 1x Azorius Signet
• - 1x Detention Sphere
• - 4x Forest
• - 1x Force of Will
• - 1x Isochron Scepter
• - 1x Land Tax
• - 1x Martial Coup
• - 1x Mirrorweave
• - 1x Mox Diamond
• - 1x Oblivion Ring
• - 4x Plains
• - 1x Polymorphist's Jest
• - 1x Prototype Portal
• - 1x Pyxis of Pandemonium
• - 1x Pestermite
• - 1x Spell Crumple
• - 1x Strionic Resonator
• - 1x Treachery
• - 1x Temple of the False God
• - 1x Thran Dynamo
• - 1x Time Spiral
• - 1x Tinker

Added:

• + 1x Arcane Signet
• + 1x Adarkar Wastes
• + 1x Blue Sun's Zenith
• + 1x Barkchannel Pathway  ^Flip
• + 1x Brokers Hideout
• + 1x Consider
• + 1x Deserted Beach
• + 1x Dreamroot Cascade
• + 1x Echoing Truth
• + 1x Evolving Wilds
• + 1x Fading Hope
• + 1x Hengegate Pathway  ^Flip
• + 1x Joint Exploration
• + 1x Mind Stone
• + 1x Overgrown Farmland
• + 1x Preordain
• + 1x Relic of Progenitus
• + 1x Repopulate
• + 1x Stonehorn Dignitary
• + 1x Terramorphic Expanse
• + 1x Temple of Mystery
• + 1x Temple of Enlightenment
• + 1x Wilt

multimedia on The Best Urza

2 years ago

Hey, well done work in progress for your first Commander deck on a budget. Good card sense upgrading the precon.

For the manabase consider upgrades of the Pain lands?

• Underground River, Caves of Koilos, Adarkar Wastes
• Tyrite Sanctum

The Pain lands have been reprinted in the last two Standard sets, making them the least expensive right now. Now is the best time to get them since they will only increase in price as time goes on. Tyrite Sanctum is a nice budget utility land especially with The Flesh is Weak.

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I'm playing Urza on a low budget and these are some cards, most less than $2, that I've found to be helpful.

• Ornithopter of Paradise: artifact creature for ramp.
• The Flesh is Weak: make Urza and all other creatures you control at the time an artifact. -1/-1 can wreck opponent's nonThopter token strategies who can be blockers against Constructs. Tyrite Sanctum makes it so you don't have to control nonartifact legendary creatures including Urza when you play Weak since it can put a +1/+1 counter on any legendary creature you control turns after to make it an artifact.
• Liquimetal Torque: mana rock for ramp or make Urza or any other nonland permanent an artifact. Pair with Master Transmuter to bounce any nonland permanent.
• Soundwave, Sonic Spy  ^Flip: new Transformers card that's good in multiplayer Commander, no mana cost to cast your choice of opponent's instant or sorcery. Constructs make it consistent to trigger with a high mana value and Soundwave, Superior Captain can be a repeatable source of artifacts.
• Sculpting Steel: good in multiplayer Commander because it can be any artifact on the battlefield and it can change with Master Transmuter bounce.
• Armix, Filigree Thrasher: because of menace it can be repeatable opponent creature removal, Losheel, Clockwork Scholar helps a lot too.

Being able to make Urza an artifact can make Urza a threat with menace to do Commander damage especially with Cranial Plating. Urza surviving nonartifact creature board wipes can give you a huge advantage. Making other nonartifact creatures an artifact is good too especially Padeem, Consul of Innovation for much more protection.

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Some cards to consider cutting:

• Orzhov Basilica, Dimir Aqueduct, Azorius Chancery, Skycloud Expanse
• Filigree Attendant, Darksteel Juggernaut, Etched Champion
• Gingerbrute, Burnished Hart
• Chief of the Foundry

Filigree Attendant, Darksteel Juggernaut, Etched Champion are just beaters, they don't do anything else. You don't really need them since you'll have plenty of better beaters, Constructs, who don't cost mana. Burnished Hart is slow for ramp. Chief of the Foundry is subpar for an anthem effect, it's a lesser Master of Etherium.

Good luck with your deck.