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Creature — Shapeshifter
Changeling (This card is every creature type at all times.)
: Target creature gains all creature types until end of turn.
: Target creature loses all creature types until end of turn.
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Amoeboid Changeling Discussion
1 week ago
Thanks for the reply, . A lot of folks don't really see the value in Unnatural Selection and Amoeboid Changeling, which is their interaction with Sliver Overlord's 2nd ability. I've stolen commanders before, and basically locked other players' commanders and best creatures from the battlefield. Sure, it's use isn't very dynamic...but it sure as heck is powerful. I was thinking of maybe swapping out Nature's Lore.
The pros for Nature's Lore is that it's colorfixing - basically adding the right color of mana for the right time. Growing Rites of Itlimoc is just raw ramp. If I were to make this swap, i'd be losing out on the chance of getting the right mana at the right time for just way more mana. What do you think of this potential swap? Is it worth it?
2 weeks ago
Try to avoid redundant effects. Ie: you don't need Blur Sliver AND Heart Sliver. Use the cheaper one instead. The only exception to that rule is you probably will want both slivers that can tap for any color mana and technically Essence Sliver isn't a keyword, so you can have that and Syphon Sliver and essentially have all your slivers attack with double lifelink. You'll have a ridiculous amount of life very quickly.
Faces of the Past is usually a winner in sliver decks. Hivestone is fun if you wanted to put some non-slivers in and make them all into slivers. Amoeboid Changeling + Sliver Overlord lets you take control of any tasty creatures your opponents have.
as for speeding up your lands, just try to use as many as possible that don't come into play tapped. The bullet lands such as Llanowar Wastes are cheap, but they will ping you for one damage to get mana fixing. Chromatic Lantern is pretty important in any 5 color deck.
2 weeks ago
Hello again. Well I INTEND TO GO CONTROL. i started building this deck after I found my old Overlord, Toxin sliver, Clot sliver in a box. Since I played commander, why not? I have acquired through some deals the Hive lord and legion and the heartstone. My intention is to go control and combo Sliver Overlord with Amoeboid Changeling, mainly because I started to build a Sen Triplets deck, with lots of control "target creature", but it did not work.
The mana base and some non-sliver cards were suggested by a friend but I don't own them, so I will change them in the future. i just wanted help to trim the slivers a bit in order to put more non-slivers.
I appreciate all of your suggestions, they gave me some ideas in order to build this deck. I will be using some cards from the Draconic domination CMD deck I have in order to help me build it, since it is a 5-color deck it should help me.
1 month ago
If there is ever a sliver deck in need, I must always go and offer aid. So you have a rather unique deck building situation here...an alternate wincon that is not creature based damage and not (infinite) combo based. So let me break down my thoughts.
poisonous ala Virulent Sliver + Snake Cult Initiation. This is a rather off beat suggestion, because Wizards created almost no cards with this keyword (these are the only two!)...so at the very least you'll have the element of surprise. This is significantly different from infect (i'll get to that later) in that you'll need to attack your opponnent 10 times in total (it doesn't matter how much damage you deal!) in order to win with virulent in play. For the two cards previously suggested, i'd remove Cautery Sliver and/or Darkheart Sliver: as it stands, your deck has 5 sac outlets for slivers. I understand it's more or less important to the current wincon of mass reanimation, but in order to make room this is what i'd take out. As it stands, your deck has 5 sac outlets. You could remove two. Additionaly, you can use cards with proliferate to finish the job - i.e. Contagion Engine, Inexorable Tide, or Fuel for the Cause.
Speaking of infect! Cards like Triumph of the Hordes, Phyresis, Tainted Strike, seem like great options to consider. In addition, you should include Firewake Sliver which is not only a sac outlet, but it also ramps your slivers to the point where they can swing for lethal with trample. So if an opponent blocks, you could ensure their demise. Then you could perform a mass reanimation next turn if necessary (if you're playing multiplayer). Also, an honorable mention for if your going all in on infect - Corrupted Conscience. It's always fun to take things. It's even more fun to make those things contribute exclusively to your wincon. As for what to take out for any of the previously mentioned, I'd remove:
Synapse Sliver: While this is an awesome sliver, you have enough tutors to get the job done.
Amoeboid Changeling: Normally, I always speak up for this little guy, because few people actually pay attention to his interaction with Sliver Overlord...but your deck is shaping up to be more of an aggro style deck as opposed to a control deck. Besides, i'm going to go ahead and suggest that maybe you should also consider changing your commander for Sliver Legion, and maybe removing Sliver Overlord from the deck altogether. A potential amendment to your wincon as it stands is that after you perform a mass reanimation, you play Triumph of the Hordes, then your Commander and just end everyone at the table. This is all just kind of off the top of my head, and I haven't really scrutinized the idea for feasibility and consistency...so take it all worth a grain of salt.
I hope my suggestions got some gears turning. May the hive live on forever.
1 month ago
And I'm reaching here but maybe you could find a way to use Plague Sliver? It would be hilarious if a sliver deck killed opponents with this. Maybe give people Hivestone? Like I said I'm reaching with this one, much more likely to backfire...
Possible removals include Amoeboid Changeling, Crystalline Sliver OR any sliver that targets a sliver, and effects which you already get from another source like +1/+1. and really I think a Coat of Arms, Door of Destinies, and Sliver Legion is probably enough buffing.
May want to also consider more reanimation with all the sacrifice I suggested.
2 months ago
First off, cut down to 60 cards, a lot of the shapeshifter's aren't really needed as you know. You really only need Phantasmal Image, Evil Twin, Metallic Mimic (all creature types means a massive buff), a couple Amoeboid Changeling and then Chameleon Colossus which you have forgotten. You could also consider Scavenging Ooze. After that you have to update the mana base (again as you know).
Finally, changelings are not really strong enough to win by themselves (especially without Mirror Entity) and as such I would include a good amount of control: Fatal Push, Spell Snare, Countersquall, Mana Leak, and (non-budget) Snapcaster Mage and Cryptic Command.
2 months ago
3 months ago
As a long term Sliver player, Legion should NEVER be your commander if Overlord is available. Sliver Overlord provides you the most functionality and utility of the Sliver commanders. Sliver Hivelord provides you the most aggressive and difficult to deal with of them and Sliver Queen can be used if you've got a token generation focused deck.
Mana Echoes With Sliver Queen makes infinite tokens and infinite mana. And if you want to just watch the world burn, Sliver Hivelord and a deck of board wipes or even the much hated Worldslayer works well.
If you'd like to look over another Sliver deck that works quite well, my deck makes other players groan and leave the table when they see it come out. Sliver Mastery There's a LOT of infinite comboes in there mind you, so this deck now only comes out to punish people who aren't fun to play with.