Mana Echoes

Enchantment

Whenever a creature enters the battlefield, you may add (1) to your mana pool for each creature you control that shares a creature type with it.

Discussion (51)

FalseSilen on Grenzo's Slots of Misfortune

1 week ago

king-saproling- I'm so glad you like the deck! It's one of my favorites to play and I appreciate the suggestions.

Herald of Leshrac is one I've not heard of, and I like it a lot for disrupting opponents and gaining free mana! If your playgroup is cool with you thieving lands, go for it.

Marsh Flitter is a token generator and a free sac outlet. Huh, I'll keep an eye on it for future.

Transmogrifying Licid + Dross Scorpion + Goblin Welder is a hilarious combo and I wish you luck in pulling it off and destroying everything your opponents hold dear with Meteor Golem

Cathodion requires a sac outlet to get value, we prefer to have ETBs like Priest of Urabrask since a sac outlet won't always be available.

Grinning Ignus only works at sorcery speed and returns itself to our hand, which we don't want. I like where your head is at for mana generation, though.

Carnival of Souls is a fascinating and risky way to squeeze in more flips. It does put restriction on our timing as we have to use the mana when it is created, and is a nonbo with our infinites, as they often involve putting infinite creatures into play, which would drain us at the same rate as our opponents. I think you could try it and it would be a coin flip whether it won or lost you individual games just by itself.

Thran Turbine is a dead flip with Grenzo, and I'm not sure if it's impactful enough to include, even though it would be a Sol Ring worth of mana for flipping

Braid of Fire , Black Market , Imperial Recruiter , Mana Echoes , and Teferi's Puzzle Box are all cards I have considered playing, and would certainly be reasonable inclusions! I have not included them because I don't currently own them and they are expensive.

Mindmoil would not be a good inclusion because we don't want to play spells from our hand if we can at all avoid it. It does allow us to stack the bottom of our library, but it's 5 mana do nothing, and scry to the bottom if we have spare mana after that.

Vessel of Endless Rest seems unimpactful for 3 mana and we have creatures and artifacts that do the same thing repeatably, which is what we're looking for to win.

Junktroller is great for recursion, but unfortunately it taps to activate, making it hard to go infinite. Spending the mana to activate Epitaph Golem or Reito Lantern is honestly just more reliable and abusable than tapping, as we do not run untappers.

K'rrik, Son of Yawgmoth is a spicy include, though I have chosen not to do so because he only gets pumped off of casting, and doesn't contribute to a combo. He would be useful for getting black creatures out of our hand, and I assume combos with Blood Celebrant , but we have 1 card that performs that combo by itself: Treasonous Ogre .

Blood Artist I've gone back and forth on. It absolutely is worth an include, but I find that we have enough payoffs once infinite is achieved so I replaced it with redundancy in other places, like token generation

Sifter of Skulls has 4 power, which automatically excludes it from this build. It is important to get Grenzo out early to start building the value engine, so we cast him for X=1.

Petravark could work as targeted land destruction. We already have Avalanche Riders but if you need more this could be worth including

Here is the primer I took my inspiration from. I highly recommend reading it to get the general philosophy and lines of the deck! https://www.mtgnexus.com/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=22095

king-saproling on Grenzo's Slots of Misfortune

1 week ago

This is a really cool deck! What do you think of these? Junktroller , Braid of Fire , Black Market , Thran Turbine , Herald of Leshrac , K'rrik, Son of Yawgmoth , Blood Celebrant , Blood Artist , Imperial Recruiter , Cathodion , Grinning Ignus , Mana Echoes , Carnival of Souls , Dross Scorpion , Transmogrifying Licid (jumps on goblin welder to combo with dross scorpion)

vasarto77 on Counter Sac Engine / Gruul Mill

2 weeks ago

OK. A couple minor changes before I get my remaining stuff in on my maybe list and find out what I want to take out.

Goblin Trashmaster and Pashalik Mons have been taken out due to near to total uselessness in this deck. Every time I have played them they were dead cards that provided no value or anything other than being a blocker each time. Maybe if I put a Mana Echoes into the deck the pashalk mons might be useful but otherwise it's a wast of space. Birds of Paradise and Domri Rade have taken their places.

Forkbeard on Sliver Overlord: Slivers Gone Wild

3 weeks ago

Hell yeah Serom, Intruder Alarm is sweet. I used to have it in here but found it to be a little superfluous alongside Mana Echoes + the other Sliver Queen tricks. Combo redundancy options are fine, however the main drawback to IA is that it can benefit opponents just as much - as I'm sure you know, you need to be careful when you choose to slap this card down.

king-saproling on Kykar EDH

3 weeks ago

Nice list! You might like these: Spark Double , Murmuring Mystic , Shared Animosity , Coat of Arms , Mana Echoes , Flickering Ward , Impact Tremors , Purphoros, God of the Forge , Aetherworks Marvel , Coastal Piracy , Bident of Thassa , Distant Melody , Mantle of Leadership , Cathars' Crusade , Valor in Akros

kamelyan on $h!ts Haunt€d

3 weeks ago

Very nice.

But maybe you would want to add The Locust God just in case your win-con, Isochron Scepter , gets exiled.

I have not seen Kyren Negotiations before. Since you have Mana Echoes and Phyrexian Altar , I would include Sacred Mesa ; but only because it is a pet card of mine. You should not add it -it is pretty bad. The Locust God , though, yes, definitely.

What to take out for The Locust God ? I do not know; maybe Pongify .

If you get a chance, could you check out my Kykar deck? They released the Bird-Wizard with Bag of Holding , so I just had to go a Wheelin'!

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multimedia on LVL_666

1 month ago

I've been having problems with embeded Javascript in deck pages, jQuery. I have removed it all it because it doesn't seem to be supported at user level any longer on this site.

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The buttons that are not working function with a Javascript onclick event. Since Javascript is no longer supported then I think that's why the buttons don't work.

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You could remove the buttons and make the content of them into a second accordion. Can add accordions inside of other accordions (nested accordions). Nested is the coding term that's used when you put something inside of something else. To do this you would put the nested accordion inside "The Hivestone" panel. Make the title of the panel of the nested accordion the same title that was the button such as "Reading this decklist". Here's an example adapting your code:

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===panel:<center>When Slivers Come Together</center>
<p><center><i>The Sliver Queen provides you a rare gift - a song celebrating the might and majesty of Slivers. Listen, don't listen- it will be there all the same.</i></center></p>

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<p>Do you like Tribal Creatures? Do you enjoy crushing your opponents with endless ranks of creatures that have indestructible, +1,000,000.../+1,000,000..., flash, flying, haste, shroud, regenerate, first strike, doublestrike, <i>AND</i> deathtouch? If so, then [[Sliver Overlord]] is the perfect choice for you. With its ability to tutor for any other creature in your deck, you have a complete toolkit for any situation at your disposal. With a little help from the hive Overlord can steal the opponent's most prized creatures, adding their might to your own <i>(and making them a Sliver)</i>. Alternatively, you could use Overlord to beseech her Highness, the [[Sliver Queen|Queen]] (<a href="https://youtu.be/PK0uxBspMFc" target="_blank"><i>...de queen</i></a>) along with one of her [[Paradox Engine (MPS)|treas]][[Mana Echoes *F*|ures]] you can become unstoppable - crushing your opponents' hopes and dreams with creatures that have more abilities than the card would have room for.</p>
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<p>This decklist is organized into custom categories - <a href="https://youtu.be/ZUJJdeByJa0" target="_blank"><i>for flavor</i></a>: 
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<li><i>The Brood</i>: Creatures, plain and simple.</li>
<li><i>Legacy Catalysts</i>: Mana Ramp and Rocks, Tutors, Draw spells, and Recursion spells. </li>
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===panel:<h3>What is this Deck?</h3>
<p>This deck is an example of an "ideal" <i>(as in monetary cost is not an issue, only the most efficient cards allowed)</i>Mid-range Sliver Tribal EDH deck. The power level of this deck is right on the <i>cusp</i> of the <a href="https://youtu.be/mgGm_74Lc9M?t=2291" target="_blank">Competitive</a> (cEDH) meta (decks rated at a 9 or 10 - <i>out of 10</i>). Personally, i'd rate The Queen's Egg at about an 8.5 toward a 9 - as it can consistently <a href="https://youtu.be/mgGm_74Lc9M?t=3205" target="_blank"><i>threaten</i></a> to win between turns 5 and 8. As a frame of reference I use the following videos from <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLsiaNUb42gRAP7ewbJ0ecQ" target="_blank">The Command Zone</a> Podcast to measure this deck's Power level:</p>

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<li><a href="https://youtu.be/dDVrAb_GfxU" target="_blank">How to Power-up your Decks</a></li>
<li><a href="https://youtu.be/mgGm_74Lc9M" target="_blank">How to Determine Your Deck's Power Level</a></li>
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<p>This is what a Competitive Mid-range Sliver Tribal deck should be - or at least somewhere close to it. Though I must acknowledge a more powerful cEDH "Sliver build" in the form of [[The First Sliver]] + [[Food Chain]] which typically fits well within the 10 <i>out of 10</i> power level. One excellent build <i>(and deck description)</i> would be [[user:ShaperSavant]]'s <a href="http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/food-chain-sliver/" target="_blank">Food Chain Sliver</a> - but that is more of a [[Food Chain]] deck, than Sliver Tribal. It chose raw function over tribal flavor - which is closer to the cEDH <a href="https://www.channelfireball.com/all-strategy/articles/an-introduction-to-cedh-part-1/" target="_blank">ethos</a>, but it abandons what makes Slivers <B>Slivers</B> in favor of raw versatility and speed to achieve it's singular wincon.</p>

<p>As a TappedOut denizen, i've always wanted to have the single highest rated Tribal Sliver EDH deck on the site - currently the only competition I have is [[user:TolarianCommunityCollege]]'s <a href="http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/toolkit-sliver-commander/" target="_blank">introductory build</a> - and I am gaining on that deck's upvotes <i>(I <B>WILL</B> defeat you, Professor!)</i>. It's a great deck, serving as an affordable <i>(as of October 2019 the deck costs around $300)</i> springboard into the world of Slivers. The Queen's Egg is meant to be a possible <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6h0GRhIKgD8" target="_blank">final form</a> of Sliver Tribal EDH - expanding on the idea of what the Professor had established in his video guide "<a href="https://youtu.be/JYRQyBV263c" target="_blank">A Study In Slivers</a>". I'll admit that the Professor's deck was definitely an influence on my own - but through my personal playing preferences, the commentary of the TappedOut community, and experiences with my various local metas this deck was honed and shaped into what it is today.</p>
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What I have done is removed the buttons and in their place is a nested accordion inside "The Hivestone" panel of the main accordion. The names of the buttons have been used as the titles of panels for the nested accordion. I have removed the separate divs that are being shown and hidden when you click the button; instead that content is within each panel of the nested accordion. The main accordion is wrapped in a custom div therefore I wrapped the nested accordion in a nested-custom div.

You can style any of the parts of the nested accordion while not effecting the main accordion by targeting elements in the #nested-custom in CSS. This code is not the complete content for the "The Hivestone" I only did the first two panels of the nested accordion. Hopefully you can figure out how to finish the rest; I've added comments as a guide. If you need help let me know :)

LVL_666 on multimedia

1 month ago

Hello again great mentor - I made an update to my Sliver Queen deck, and somehow lost all of the "show" and "hide" buttons in the accordion menu. I have no idea how I made that mistake...and am just facerolling on the keyboard. I'd appreciate any sort of assistance you could provide...but i'm wondering what did I delete? Warning: this is alot of code.

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<p>Do you like Tribal Creatures? Do you enjoy crushing your opponents with endless ranks of creatures that have indestructible, +1,000,000.../+1,000,000..., flash, flying, haste, shroud, regenerate, first strike, doublestrike, <i>AND</i> deathtouch? If so, then [[Sliver Overlord]] is the perfect choice for you. With its ability to tutor for any other creature in your deck, you have a complete toolkit for any situation at your disposal. With a little help from the hive Overlord can steal the opponent's most prized creatures, adding their might to your own <i>(and making them a Sliver)</i>. Alternatively, you could use Overlord to beseech her Highness, the [[Sliver Queen|Queen]] (<a href="https://youtu.be/PK0uxBspMFc" target="_blank"><i>...de queen</i></a>) along with one of her [[Paradox Engine (MPS)|treas]][[Mana Echoes *F*|ures]] you can become unstoppable - crushing your opponents' hopes and dreams with creatures that have more abilities than the card would have room for.</p>

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<p>This decklist is organized into custom categories - <a href="https://youtu.be/ZUJJdeByJa0" target="_blank"><i>for flavor</i></a>: 
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<li><i>The Brood</i>: Creatures, plain and simple.</li>
<li><i>Legacy Catalysts</i>: Mana Ramp and Rocks, Tutors, Draw spells, and Recursion spells. </li>
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<li><i>Extinction Event</i>: Removal and Counter magics.</li>
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<p>This deck is an example of an "ideal" <i>(as in monetary cost is not an issue, only the most efficient cards allowed)</i>Mid-range Sliver Tribal EDH deck. The power level of this deck is right on the <i>cusp</i> of the <a href="https://youtu.be/mgGm_74Lc9M?t=2291" target="_blank">Competitive</a> (cEDH) meta (decks rated at a 9 or 10 - <i>out of 10</i>). Personally, i'd rate The Queen's Egg at about an 8.5 toward a 9 - as it can consistently <a href="https://youtu.be/mgGm_74Lc9M?t=3205" target="_blank"><i>threaten</i></a> to win between turns 5 and 8. As a frame of reference I use the following videos from <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLsiaNUb42gRAP7ewbJ0ecQ" target="_blank">The Command Zone</a> Podcast to measure this deck's Power level:</p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://youtu.be/dDVrAb_GfxU" target="_blank">How to Power-up your Decks</a></li>
<li><a href="https://youtu.be/mgGm_74Lc9M" target="_blank">How to Determine Your Deck's Power Level</a></li>
</ul>
</p>

<p>This is what a Competitive Mid-range Sliver Tribal deck should be - or at least somewhere close to it. Though I must acknowledge a more powerful cEDH "Sliver build" in the form of [[The First Sliver]] + [[Food Chain]] which typically fits well within the 10 <i>out of 10</i> power level. One excellent build <i>(and deck description)</i> would be [[user:ShaperSavant]]'s <a href="http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/food-chain-sliver/" target="_blank">Food Chain Sliver</a> - but that is more of a [[Food Chain]] deck, than Sliver Tribal. It chose raw function over tribal flavor - which is closer to the cEDH <a href="https://www.channelfireball.com/all-strategy/articles/an-introduction-to-cedh-part-1/" target="_blank">ethos</a>, but it abandons what makes Slivers <B>Slivers</B> in favor of raw versatility and speed to achieve it's singular wincon.</p>

<p>As a TappedOut denizen, i've always wanted to have the single highest rated Tribal Sliver EDH deck on the site - currently the only competition I have is [[user:TolarianCommunityCollege]]'s <a href="http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/toolkit-sliver-commander/" target="_blank">introductory build</a> - and I am gaining on that deck's upvotes <i>(I <B>WILL</B> defeat you, Professor!)</i>. It's a great deck, serving as an affordable <i>(as of October 2019 the deck costs around $300)</i> springboard into the world of Slivers. The Queen's Egg is meant to be a possible <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6h0GRhIKgD8" target="_blank">final form</a> of Sliver Tribal EDH - expanding on the idea of what the Professor had established in his video guide "<a href="https://youtu.be/JYRQyBV263c" target="_blank">A Study In Slivers</a>". I'll admit that the Professor's deck was definitely an influence on my own - but through my personal playing preferences, the commentary of the TappedOut community, and experiences with my various local metas this deck was honed and shaped into what it is today.</p>
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Outside of being the greatest tribe in all of Magic <i>(If you disagree with me, then allow me to inform you that you are <a href="https://youtu.be/V3y3QoFnqZc" target="_blank"><B>wrong</B></a>.)</i>, Slivers organically build off of and support[[Crystalline Sliver|each]] [[Sliver Hivelord|other]], and in most cases are each other's [[Gemhide Sliver|combo]]/[[Heart Sliver|synergy]] piece. Eventually, if you get enough Slivers on the board you just win - usually due to a ridiculous number of key words triggering when you do something. Within the context of this deck however, this is the ultimate tribe receiving only the most optimal choices for support - Revised Dual lands, high-powered [[Cyclonic Rift|removal]]/[[Mana Drain|counter magics]], and with some of the best [[Skyshroud claim|ramp]] choices to fix mana. The speed of this deck can rival that of Mono green ramp - under the right circumstances.
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<p>Steady streams of [[Diabolic Edict|sacrifice effects]], [[Coastal Breach|return effects]], and [[Wrath of God|mass removal]]/[[Merciless Eviction|exile]] can be devastating as they can also bypass [[Crystalline Sliver]]'s <a href="http://mtgsalvation.gamepedia.com/Shroud" target="_blank">Shroud</a>ing. Worse yet, if you were to lose control of [[Sliver Overlord]] then you might as well consider the game over, as every sliver you play will likely be taken by Overlord's 2nd ability - [[symbol:3]] <i>gain control of target sliver.</i> One of the biggest weakness of the deck however is it's Manabase. It doesn't contain any basics, therefore it is quite vulnerable to enchantments like [[Blood Moon]], [[Contamination]] or [[Back to Basics]].</p>

<p>Additionally, there is a weakness that is unique to all Sliver decks: <B><a href="https://youtu.be/p-ho9L4Jazw" target="_blank">Sliver Hate&trade;</a></B>. Wizard Mentor archdukeofevil <a href="http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/commander-edh/526938-the-problem-with-sliver-decks" target="_blank">described</a> it perfectly: <i>"When you sit down at a table consider yourself playing Archenemy, and you don't get the silly cards to help. Usually everyone just blasts the slivers and then continues the game."</i> Sliver decks tend to be politically weak - meaning that most players at the table (<i>assuming you are in a 4 player pod</i>) will often view you as a threat on turn 0, and will dedicate resources to containing/crippling you early on. While it is frustrating to have so much scrutiny/attention/disruption on your side of the board - take it as a compliment, as your opponents should rightfully fear the power of the Hive.</p>
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<p>This deck is designed to be as competitive as possible while staying within the theme and design of Sliver Tribal. As such, the primary strategy is to populate the board with Slivers, as they will double as answers to potential threats, removal fodder, or engines that can flood the battlefield. As you play you will always want to get sliver a that can make your hivelings stick to the battlefield - i.e. [[Crystalline Sliver]], [[Sliver Hivelord]], or [[Sedge Sliver]]. The wincons are [[Sliver Overlord|Commander Damage]], [[Lavabelly Sliver|Lifedrain]], [[Sliver Legion|Combat Damage]] or [[Sliver Queen|Overwhelming Combat Damage]]. The supporting cards and slivers will vary depending on the wincon pursued, but the infinite combos in the deck all hinge on [[Sliver Queen]]. For a more detailed listing on each individual combo, see "Combos and Synergies" further down the accordion.</p>
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<p>Starting turn 1 the primary goal is to ramp and gain access to all 5c (<i>prioritizing some over others depending on what's in your hand</i>) while gaining access to as much mana as possible through ramp, rocks, or dorks. The secondary priority will be with just populating the battlefield. Slivers present options - be it interaction with an opponent's field or bolstering your own boardstate. It doesn't occur too often, but it is possible to win as early as turn 4 with a [[Lavabelly Sliver|Lavabelly]] + [[Basal Sliver|Basal]] + [[Sliver Queen|Queen]] infinite combo  - for this to go off so early you'd need to have access to all 5 colors, at least a [[Sol Ring]] in play along with [[Heart Sliver]] + [[Gemhide Sliver]].</p>
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<p><i>"Slivers have a vicious bony spear on a flexible limb growing from their chest cavity. With it they inject a corrosive solution that breaks down their prey's body tissue"</i>
- Slivers, from <u>"The Art of Magic: The Gathering - The Rath Cycle"</u> - <a href="https://i.imgur.com/WhAsL5L.jpg" target="_blank"><i>Source</i></a></p>

<p>Early game was when a Sliver would be studying and selecting it's prey - <i>assessing the board state</i>. Midgame is the hunt, and ultimately the kill - <i>assembling a combo or synergy by deciding on which Slivers to tutor/play along with the options you have drawn into</i>. The quote at the beginning of this section should help define your mindset - turns 1 through 4 was building up corrosive solution into your spear, stalking your prey. Turn 5 and beyond is the attack - envenoming your target(s) by actively playing toward your wincon - winning via Commander damage is slower - taking opponents out 1 by 1. Thus, it requires more threat assessment as your opponents will have more time to react. Building an Infinite Combo requires more resource management and awareness of what your opponents may do to <a href="https://youtu.be/tnXvmORMDAo" target="_blank">thwart your plans</a>.</p>

<p>A good heuristic to follow would be - on turn 5, if you are well ahead of your mana curve <i>(if you have access to at least [[symbol:7]])</i> and have at least two of any of the following: [[Mana Echoes]], [[Gemhide Sliver|Gemhide]], [[Heart Sliver|Heart]], [[Basal Sliver|Basal]], [[Lavabelly Sliver|Lavabelly]] or [[Sliver Queen|Queen]] on the battlefield, then it is feasible to pursue a win through overwhelming the table with combat damage using an infinite number of creature tokens produced by the [[Sliver Queen|Queen]] and her various devices.</p>

<p>If you are behind curve, and do not have at least two of the previously mentioned cards on battlefield, then it may be more beneficial to play more conservatively using the [[Sliver Overlord|Commander]] along with some [[Cloudshredder Sliver|evasion]] and strong support Slivers such as [[Brood Sliver|Brood]] or [[Bonescythe Sliver]]. This approach will likely stretch you toward the late game - <i>turn 8 and beyond</i> - but it would be beneficial to pursue the soft lock of [[Crystalline Sliver|Crystalline]] and [[Sliver Hivelord]] to make your boardstate just that much more difficult to deal with while you swing away.</p>
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<p>If a game stretches past turn 8 for this deck, then it is likely that you are trying to win via commander damage, your attempts at assembling an infinite combo were disrupted, or you simply drew into cards that just weren't all that helpful in you establishing a good board state early on. Winning via commander damage at this point should be a fairly straight forward proposition:</p>
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<li>Play more slivers, [[symbol:t]] Commander a lot.</li>
<li>???</li>
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<p>But, for the scenarios where you have key cards in your graveyard you do have options in the form of [[Yawgmoth's Will|YawgWill]], [[Patriarch's Bidding]], or [[Volrath's Stronghold]]. I like to use [[Patriarch's Bidding|Bidding]] in conjunction with [[Basal Sliver]] and at least 5 Slivers on board (including Basal). Sacrificing all Slivers, and having them re-enter the battlefield with [[symbol:B]] mana floating can be a big help when trying to assemble an infinite combo at the "11th hour" this is essentially the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hail_Mary_pass" target="_blank">hail mary</a> tactic of the deck.</p>
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<p>The ideal starting hand for this deck are at least two or three lands with a [[Mana Crypt|mana rock]] or two. Having [[Gemhide Sliver|Gemhide]] or [[Manaweft Sliver|Manaweft]] Sliver would be a huge boon early game, as they can increase the speed of the deck significantly. If one of those lands in hand were a <a href="http://mtgsalvation.gamepedia.com/Fetch_lands#Onslaught_fetch_lands" target="_blank">Fetchland</a> then you'd be all set as you don't know what mana sources you may have a harder time acquiring.</p>
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<p><ul type="circle"><li>[[Sliver Queen]] + [[Mana Echoes]]:<a href="https://youtu.be/Y6rE0EakhG8?t=29" target="_blank"> Infinite Sliver Tokens ver.1</a> - Once activated, the Queen will spawn a 1/1 Sliver creature token that will generate [[symbol:2]] Mana due to Mana Echoes triggering. Use the [[symbol:2]] to spawn another 1/1, generating four, and so on and so forth...</li> 
<li>[[Sliver Queen]] + [[Basal Sliver]] + [[Training Grounds]]: <a href="https://youtu.be/r-AIjrdR7u4" target="_blank"> Infinite Sliver Tokens ver.2</a> - Same effect as the previously mentioned combo, but with different pieces to accompany her highness. Once all three cards are in play, pay [[symbol:1]] to create a 1/1 Sliver creature token via Sliver Queen's synergy with Training Grounds. The 1/1 sacrifices itself for [[symbol:B]][[symbol:B]] via Basal Sliver's ability. Then you generate two more 1/1 creature tokens, and so on and so forth...</li>
<li>[[Sliver Overlord]] + [[Amoeboid Changeling]]: <a href="https://youtu.be/CJh1hmmLLzw" target="_blank">Creature Stealing</a>. Tap Amoeboid Changing, activating it's ability to give any specific creature all creature types. Effectively, it will turn that creature into a "Sliver". Then you pay [[symbol:3]], activating Sliver Overlord's ability to take control of target Sliver. There is no specified length of time on the ability, so even if it ceases to be a Sliver it's still yours.</li> 
<li>[[Sliver Queen]] + [[Heart Sliver]] + [[Basal Sliver]] + [[Gemhide Sliver]]/[[Manaweft Sliver]]: <a href="https://youtu.be/OQSNhk5ICTI" target="_blank">Infinite Mana</a>. Pay [[symbol:2]] for a 1/1 Token (via Sliver Queen). It gets [[Heart Sliver|haste]], [[Basal Sliver|sacrifice for BB]] and [[Gemhide Sliver|mana generation]], so you [[symbol:t]] for one mana of any color and sacrifice the token for [[symbol:B]][[symbol:B]]. Use the [[symbol:B]][[symbol:B]] to create another Sliver token to [[symbol:t]] it for that one mana of any color, then sacrifice it for the [[symbol:B]][[symbol:B]]...rinse wash repeat.</li>
<li>[[Striking Sliver]]/[[Bonescythe Sliver]] + [[Venom Sliver]]: <a href="http://mtgsalvation.gamepedia.com/First_strike" target="_blank">First strike</a>  or <a href="http://mtgsalvation.gamepedia.com/Double_strike" target="_blank">Double strike</a> combined with <a href="http://mtgsalvation.gamepedia.com/Deathtouch" target="_blank">Deathtouch</a> loosely translates to <i>"Dead before they ever even knew it"</i>. First strike damage resolves before combat damage even begins, so when your opponent is attacking or blocking, the creature unfortunate enough to be the sliver's target will receive First strike damage first, which happens to be Deathtouch damage.</li> 
<li>[[Bonescythe Sliver]] + [[Brood Sliver]]: Sliver Doubling Season. According to the definition of <a href="https://mtg.gamepedia.com/Combat_damage_step" target="_blank">the Combat Damage Step</a>: <i>"All creatures in combat deal combat damage at the same time, except when one or more creatures have first strike or double strike. In this case there are two damage assignment steps."</i> With <a href="http://mtgsalvation.gamepedia.com/Double_strike" target="_blank">Double strike</a>, you have two damage assignment steps when dealing combat damage to target player, therefore you get one sliver token per damage assignment step. Yay twins :)</li>
<li>[[Lavabelly Sliver]] + [[Basal Sliver]] + [[Sliver Queen]]: <i><a href="https://youtu.be/mjYSUVZxkWs" target="_blank">Death by Boiled Eggs.</a></i> Pay [[symbol:2]] to activate the [[Sliver Queen|Queen]]'s ability creating a Sliver Creature Token. That token will have [[Lavabelly Sliver|Lavabelly]]'s ETB effect, allowing you to target a player <i>(or planeswalker if you're weird)</i> for 1 point of damage. Sacrifice the token using [[Basal Sliver|Basal]]'s ability generating [[symbol:B]][[symbol:B]] which will be used for...yes you guessed it - another activation of [[Sliver Queen]]'s ability which will result in another activation of [[Lavabelly Sliver|Lavabelly]]'s ability. Repeat the process of creating and sacrificing Sliver creature tokens until all would be egg-touchers are dead.</li>
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<p>I wanted to make an <B>ideal</B> manabase for this deck, so I pursued <a href="http://mtgsalvation.gamepedia.com/Dual_land" target="_blank">Original Dual Lands</a> along with <a href="http://mtgsalvation.gamepedia.com/Fetch_lands#Onslaught_fetch_lands" target="_blank">Onslaught</a> 
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 <li>Breeding Pool</li>
 <li>Hallowed Fountain</li>
 <li>Steam Vents</li>
 <li>Watery Grave</li>
 <li>City of Brass</li>
 <li>Cascade Bluffs</li>
 <li>City of Brass</li>
 <li>Flooded Grove</li>
 <li>Gemstone Mine</li>
 <li>Mana Confluence</li>
 <li>Mystic Gate</li>
 <li>Sunken Ruins</li>
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<p>Thus freeing up 12 slots for basic lands. I would include 3[[symbol:U]], 4[[symbol:G]], 2[[symbol:W]], 2[[symbol:B]], and 1[[symbol:R]].</p>
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<p>Outside of the [[Sliver Overlord|Commander]] and the [[Sliver Queen|leg]][[Sliver Legion|end]][[Sliver Hivelord|ary]] Slivers and [[Mana Echoes]] there aren't too many cards in this deck that could outright define a winning scenario. [[Mana Echoes|Echoes]] is incredibly important - and along side it <i>once upon a time</i> was [[Paradox Engine]] - but the Rules Committee in enforcing what <B>their</B> vision of what EDH should be decided to ban it. Yes. I am salty - I love that card, and would love to be able to express myself using it in this deck. Banned [[Paradox Engine]] aside - I think <a href="http://mtgcommander.net/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=19171" target="_blank">their Philosophy</a> is contradictory. End of Rant. Another card that can dramatically affect the game is [[Patriarch's Bidding]] - while yes it can also help out opponents and <i>their</i> tribal decks, it essentially can be played for free utilizing [[Basal Sliver]] and a few other slivers on the board. Using [[Patriarch's Bidding|Bidding]] you can bring back all those recently sacrificed Slivers with some extra floating mana and fresh options.</p>
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<p><B>Some general guidelines for building a Sliver deck:</B></p>

<p>Try and keep your average CMC below 3. Since this is a WUBRG deck and your commander is 5 colors, you need to be lean and fast with your spells. You will need interaction, so [[Abrupt Decay]], [[Counterspell]] and spells of that ilk are highly recommended.</p>

<p>Try not to have too many slivers. Yes, keywords are awesome, but you don't need all of them. Focus on the slivers that contribute directly to your game plan. If you want aggro? Change your commander to [[Sliver Legion]] or [[Sliver Hivelord]] and focus on Slivers that help you get your damage on your opponents. Combo? Change your commander to [[Sliver Queen]] and gather her combo pieces. Midrange/Control? Stick with [[Sliver Overlord]] and pick Slivers that are flexible enough to lend themselves to ether strategy when needed. A good number of Slivers to aim for (excluding your commander) is around 25 or less. Try not to exceed that.</p>

<p>Your manabase is key. Your deck lives and dies by this. Try to include fetches along with original dual lands. If you can't afford original fetches, then I recommend getting the Mirage fetchlands. Can't afford original dual lands? Get Shocklands.</p>
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<p>So currently I have only acquired most of the cards on my decklist. However, [[user:Barnze]] went ahead and built my deck and tested it out. He (or she?) apparently had all or most of the pieces, and thought my deck was good enough to try out. I just want to thank them for thinking so highly of my deck, and for taking it out and playing it. It's likely that overtime their comment will get archived, so i'll post their event record/review right here: </p>
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Update..... Out of 16 Players I came in 2nd.

Results: Since there wasn't a lot of players there, they did a random draw into 4 pods(4 player, 1:30 time limit). The winners of each pod move to a 2 player heads up.
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    1st match/pod (WIN) 1-0 After this win people knew I had a sliver deck.. SO.... a lot of <B>Sliver Hate&trade;</B> started to show up and card changes in various decks started happening. lol
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    2nd match/heads up (Win)2-0 I played against [[Oloro, Ageless Ascetic]] Commander deck, it was a really good life link deck but both games I was able to play my [[Sliver Overlord]] really quickly and use mana generation ([[Manaweft Sliver]]/[[Gemhide Sliver]]) and tutoring. I almost had all my slivers out for both games. Maybe I got lucky but that's magic.
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    3rd match/heads up (Lost)1-2 I played against a Scarecrow Commander Deck [[Reaper King]]. The 1st game I lost, because I couldn't keep my slivers in play long enough. He would either destroy them or get rid of them. The 2nd game I smoke him by turn 8. I was flashing my slivers at his end step so I could get more  combos/synergies out and deal aggro damage. With plus [[Striking Sliver]] and [[Venom Sliver]] in play, it was game over for my opponent. The 3rd game was close but I lost.
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Overall, The mana curve was really fast, The combos worked as planned, and the <B>Sliver Hate&trade;</B> was there. Even on the first match, when I revealed my commander at set-up, I could feel as if the table was going to gang up on me, but they didn't...and it was their loss. I did give your name to one of the guys there that asked me about the deck. He thought it was really smooth. I asked him what he might add or replace, so he will let me know. I will be going back up there to pick up some cards for a future commander deck so I will let you know what he says. Also I will sit back and remember what happen during the matches so I can give you card good suggestion(s).
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<p>12 AUG 2017 - So all the cards on the list are the cards in the deck...it's been that way for quite awhile at this point. I did however swap out [[Mutavault]] for [[Volrath's Stronghold]]. I still have the [[Mutavault]] in case I regret the decision, but as [[user:Xcallion]] pointed out, the deck was lacking graveyard recursion. Given that slivers draw alot of hate they need multiple options for digging themselves out of the grave. I'm also considering [[Living Death]]/[[Living End]] but I don't know what to swap out for them. As I play more and more i'll figure out what additional options I should include. This deck doesn't really keep to one meta, as I play in multiple stores with different groups.

<p>??? 2016 - After deciding to pursue all of the cards in this deck, I don't have too many expensive cards (compared to the likes of [[Volcanic Island]] or [[Underground Sea]]) left to acquire. The only major future changes I will make will be adding in new slivers (whenever they are produced). Hopefully a proper Sliver Plainswalker will be produced in the near future and it will not suck (the most recent slivers produced were a bit of a disappointment). But I don't plan on changing the deck too much from where it is now.</p>
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<p><B>What is planned for this deck going forward?</B></p>

<p>Right now, the deck in my opinion has reached something similar to <i>Homeostasis</i> - a relatively stable equilibrium. All I do is simply keep an eye out for new product with new cards that I can experiment with in this deck. Also, a big thanks to the TappedOut community - as folks are always suggesting cards that I've completely missed. Since wizards is going in a new direction - producing more "premium" versions of cards i'll always try and swoop in and acquire them - as my weird magpie brain will sometimes make me black out and I wake up with a brand new shiny and much lighter wallet <i>(and an annoyed real-life Sliver Queen)</i></p>

<p>Additionally, I've finally come within range of reaching a  big milestone for this deck - <B>to be the highest ranked [[Sliver Overlord]] commander deck as well as the highest ranked Sliver Tribal deck on TappedOut.</B> As of November 2019 The Queen's Egg is less than 100 upvotes from that goal. It's possible. Just need to be more aggressive about advertising my deck - which isn't exactly something I want to do...but I have to, i'm so close!</p>

<p>Lastly, I think between this deck and my other two - I don't see myself really brewing any more new decks. I have a tendency to try and acquire premium, powerful (or both) instances of cards. My wallet can handle only so much. I'll always be looking to try and improve my Magnum Opus - this monstrous love letter to the Tribe of Tribes. But to scratch that deck-brewing itch I try and keep a look out for new Sliver decks being made - and always offer my two cents, anything that can help that player build the best Sliver deck they can. Because a victory for one Sliver deck...is a victory for all. We Sliver players are a Hive mind race :)</p>

<p>If you've read this far into my deck description then all I can say is thank you. If you're looking for any help, inspiration, whatever - don't hesitate to ask. Also I do help with decks that aren't Sliver decks...so again if you need help, talk to your friendly neighborhood group of poorly disguised Slivers.</p><br/>

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<p> My amazing <strike>fiancee</strike> wife got me this custom made one of a kind deck box. Themed after the [[Sliver Queen]] (my all time favorite MTG Card), it's made out of a cast resin, with magnets to hold it all together. The box holds a commander deck double sleeved no problem, and was hand made by the one and only Liefkicker. His website is here: <a href="http://www.leifkicker.com/" target="_blank">Liefkicker Studio</a>. Note: These boxes are expensive but you get what you pay for. Liefkicker deckboxes are custom art pieces of the <b>highest</b> quality that hold your most prized of decks. Slivers will always be special to me, not to mention I made (or will make) sacrifices to get each card for my deck. The first time I revealed my box, the whole table just stopped and stared at it with wonder. "That looks evil", was the first compliment I ever got. People's eyes practically never left my end of the table (mostly because I was playing slivers...but the box is simply gorgeous). Again, i'm completely happy with this deck box, and I will cherish it for the rest of my life. If you want to know more, or want to see a more comprehensive review about Liefkicker's products, I suggest you look at the [[user:TolarianCommunityCollege]]'s review: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkwndfxIn_I" target="_blank">A Review of The Hedron Box for Magic: The Gathering</a> Also, Shout Out to the Professor!</p> 

For the few of you who have been keeping track of this deck's progress [[user:Gattison]] crafted some awesome and funny song lyrics which are a parody of <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQhX8PbNUWI" target="_blank">We Care Alot by Faith No More</a>. I made an update about this before, but over time it may become lost from the front page, so here's another location where it may be discovered. As a reminder you can find <a href ="http://tappedout.net/mtg-forum/social/magic-idol-aka-so-you-think-you-can-deck-30-year-old-hip-hop-jokes/?page=1#collapse-3OELET-10" target="_blank">Gattison's Studio</a> right here. He takes requests! So don't hesitate to contact him, for every deck deserves it's own song. So without further ado, here is the official song of The Queen's Egg: 

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_The following is a parody of "We Care a Lot," by Faith No More (Lyrics by [[gattison]])._  

We share a lot  
We share a lot  
We share a lot, we share colors like [[symbol:w]], [[symbol:u]], [[symbol:b]], [[symbol:r]] and [[symbol:g]]  
We share a lot, we share mechanics like flying, trample and lifelink  
We share a lot, we share deathtouch and first strike, _and_ double strike  
We share a lot, we share too much, they say, down in the [[sliver hive]], yeah  

(Oh-oh-oh-oh) Oh, it's a dirty deck but someone's gotta play it  
Oh, it's a dirty deck but someone's gotta play it  

We share a lot  
We share a lot  
We share a lot, we share our [[syphon sliver|syphon]]s and our [[bonescythe sliver|bonescythe]]s and our [[essence sliver|essence]]  
We share a lot, we share four times as much as you, that's why we're better  
We share a lot, we share abilities like "[[symbol:t]] to [[crypt sliver|regenerate]]"  
We share a lot, we share things like "[[sliver legion|+1/+1 for each one of us in play]]," YEAH!  

Well it's a dirty deck but someone's gotta play it (Oh-oh-oh-oh)  
Well it's a dirty deck but someone's gotta play it (3x)  
(repeat 1x)  

We share a lot  
We share a lot  
We share a lot, we share our [[basal sliver|sacrifices]] for the mana pool  
We share a lot, we share the same turn-ons that's how we make the [[brood sliver|brood]]  
We share a lot, we share [[mana echoes|mana]]  
We share a lot, we share [[wheel of fortune|fortune]]  
We share a creature type, now don't slivers look like fun?  
We share a lot, we share the battlefield with ourselves and no one else  
We share a lot, we share the graveyard with the goblins and the elves  
We share a lot, we share with little slivers and big slivers too  
We share a lot, if you're a sliver then we'll share with you too, YEAH!  

Well it's a dirty deck but someone's gotta play it (Oh-oh-oh-oh)  
Well it's a dirty deck but someone's gotta play it (3x)  
(repeat 3x)  
Well it's a dirty deck but someone's gotta play it (Oh-oh-oh-oh)  
Well it's a dirty deck but someone's gotta play it (2x)  
If it's a parody then [[gattison]]'ll write it  
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<p style="font-size:x-small;">The coding for this primer was developed by [[Epochalyptik]] <a href="http://tappedout.net/mtg-articles/2015/apr/12/do-you-want-write-primer/" target="_blank">here</a>.</p>

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