Creature — Phoenix
At the beginning of combat on your turn, if you've cast three or more instant and sorceries this turn, return Arclight Phoenix from your graveyard to the battlefield.
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|Guilds of Ravnica (GRN)||Mythic Rare|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
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Arclight Phoenix Discussion
1 month ago
There two things you must consider before investing in the deck: the path you want to take(control, aggro, spellslinger, delver...) and if you want to be budget.
Aside from that there's a few cards that might end up helping you improve your deck:
Young Pyromancer - An excellent two drop that's great in any instant/sorcery heavy deck as it can provide great board as the game goes on.
Arclight Phoenix - Though a bit expensive, it's an excellent threat to pressure your opponent with.
Izzet Charm - Basically the replacement for Faithless Looting. May not be as efficient of a card draw spell as the looting was, but it has great versatility that will definitely come in handy in a lot of situations.
3 months ago
abby315 thanks for the feedback! You can definitely mill yourself out quite easily with Drowned Secrets up but the issue with a wincon you need to play from hand is the risk of fizzling since there's nothing like Unburial Rites in Standard (AFAIK) to reanimate it when milled. The deck also already hurts for cardslots between engine, payoffs, card filtering, and reanimating Arclight Phoenixes - the flexslots you correctly pointed out are my attempt to balance the mill aspect with the discarding payoffs for value aspect. So putting in Thassa's Oracle probably requires cutting either Phoenixes or the Silversmote Ghouls+Creeping Chill package and going heavier into cheap blue spells. It's honestly an intriguing idea that probably needs a different deck - I think Mystic Sanctuary to get back a reanimation spell is key here (since swamps for Witch's Cottage are unlikely to be had). The Binding of the Titans could be also interesting.
Dying to aggro is definitely an issue, which is where the random Creeping Chill mill comes in clutch. I imagine removal would be great out of the sideboard instead of Phoenixes and jump-start cards, leaning heavily on the lifegain synergies for value. But in bo1, diluting the mainboard has again the dredge issue of playing cards that don't mill or work from graveyard.
4 months ago
I think a life-oriented phoenix is the best option, Garza's Assassin is the most similar, but I think red can flavorfully spend life like that, also if a Phoenix costs life to come back, I think it makes sense that it has other life-related abilities:
Creature - Phoenix
, Pay half your life, rounded up: Return Bloodflame Phoenix from your graveyard to the battlefield. Activate this ability only during your upkeep.
I'd like to see another Phoenix, but neither a phoenix lord or a repeated method of return.
- Akoum Firebird - Landfall
- Arclight Phoenix - Storm
- Ashcloud Phoenix - Morph
- Bogardan Phoenix - Counter
- Chandra's Phoenix - Opponent dealt Damage from Instant/Sorcery or Chandra
- Everquill Phoenix - Mutate & Artifact Token
- Firestorm Phoenix - Delayed casting
- Firewing Phoenix - Mana cost
- Flamewake Phoenix - Ferocious
- Flame-Wreathed Phoenix - Tribute (very weak, why is this mythic?)
- Immortal Phoenix - No requirement
- Kuldotha Phoenix - Metalcraft
- Magma Phoenix - Mana cost
- Molten Firebird - Skip draw step
- Phoenix of Ash - Escape
- Rekindling Phoenix - Creature token
- Shard Phoenix - Mana cost with timeing restriction
- Shivan Phoenix - No requirement
- Skarrgan Firebird - Opponent dealt damage
- Skyfire Phoenix - Commander
- Spellpyre Phoenix - Cycling
- Warcry Phoenix - Battalion
- Worldheart Phoenix - cost
7 months ago
I don't care what other formats a card is played in. Pioneer is unique.
Agonizing Remorse is ALSO a multi tool. It can exile from the yard.
I don't know if you've played many tournaments and know what the meta is like.
8 months ago
8 months ago
I think that Phoenix of Ash could be a very nice additional threat, but it plays a different role in the deck than Ox of Agonas, since this one is more like a Treasure Cruise that you can toss to the gy just like an Arclight Phoenix.
I'm not so convinced with Storm's Wrath, since it f's my planeswalkers too (and I'm boarding quite a few). Anyway, I'll try the phoenix.
9 months ago
I do think Drown in the Loch is just better if you're playing it for the first two modes, especially as graveyard hate doesn't seem to be as prevalent as in Modern. Many decks that would want the third ability already play green and Commune with the Gods over it.
It could possibly work in a counter/removal heavy Grixis deck as Drown in the Loch 5-8 or (more likely imo) as a flexible card in a UB midrange deck that values the graveyard for Prized Amalgam , Scrapheap Scrounger , Bloodsoaked Champion , Arclight Phoenix and/or delve cards like Dig Through Time and Tasigur, the Golden Fang . In the first scenario, I don't see it making the cut as too many better cards exist in that slot, in the second I don't know if there is enough support for a deck that runs a graveyard strategy and protects it with counters/removal
9 months ago
thinkoriginal, first of all, thank you a lot for sharing your thoughts on the list!
I see your point on Finale of Promise , but I'm still assessing if it's clunky enough to cut it. I think that with the right timing it's okay and it is easy for the deck to fill the graveyard so for the moment I won't invest on another Brazen Borrower .
Apart from that, I'm also keen on Fiery Temper , and I don't understand why the trend lately is to cut it, as you said, it's Chart a Course and Lightning Axe 's best friend (but at the same time I find it hard to make room for it in the list :s ). The spell I'm the less convinced of is Strategic Planning although it gets you a card, it can toss Phoenixes to the graveyard, and fuels delve... so I'm definitely trying that 3-1 split you commented.
Finally, when it comes to the sb I have to admit that it's been a mess, since every list I've seen so far has been different from the others. So what I'd like to know are the proportions of the different answers that I should carry (this many counters, this much removal...), and then I'll chose the options with which I feel the most confident... I hope i'm explaining myself.
Hahaha yeah I know Anger of the Gods is bonkers... the question here is: is it better than Sweltering Suns ? 'cause they do basically the same except that this one is more flexible and it plays better with Arclight Phoenix ... unless exiling opponent's creatures is worth the nombo.