Thirst for Knowledge

Instant

Draw three cards. Then discard two cards unless you discard an artifact card.

Legality

Format	Legality
1v1 Commander	Legal
Alchemy	Legal
Archenemy	Legal
Arena	Legal
Block Constructed	Legal
Brawl	Legal
Canadian Highlander	Legal
Casual	Legal
Commander / EDH	Legal
Commander: Rule 0	Legal
Custom	Legal
Duel Commander	Legal
Gladiator	Legal
Highlander	Legal
Historic	Legal
Legacy	Legal
Leviathan	Legal
Limited	Legal
Modern	Legal
Oathbreaker	Legal
Pioneer	Legal
Planechase	Legal
Pre-release	Legal
Quest Magic	Legal
Standard	Legal
Tiny Leaders	Legal
Vanguard	Legal
Vintage	Legal

Discussion (50)

Maccano1 on Urza's Artifact Buddies

5 months ago

2ND ROUND OF CHANGES:

REMOVED: Temple of Deceit, Temple of Enlightenment, Temple of Silence, Tempered Steel, Liquimetal Torque, Scholar of New Horizons, Thopter Shop, Sphinx's Revelation, Bident of Thassa, Alela, Artful Provocateur, Etched Champion, Armix, Filigree Thrasher, Myr Battlesphere, Filigree Attendant, Vedalken Humiliator, Tawnos, Solemn Survivor, Losheel, Clockwork Scholar, Marionette Master, Teshar, Ancestor's Apostle, Ethersworn Adjudicator, Indomitable Archangel

ADDED: Glimmervoid, Power Depot, Forsaken Monument, Mind Stone, Darksteel Ingot, Hedron Archive, Dance of the Mance, Thoughtcast, Thirst for Knowledge, Master Transmuter, Lodestone Golem, Research Thief, Treasure Keeper, Mycosynth Golem, Myr Retriever, Sculpting Steel, Mechtitan Core, Mystic Forge, Dispeller's Capsule, Dispatch, Burnished Hart

COMMENTS: Deck feels powerful, but one dimensional in that it's just trying to pump out big dumb creatures asap; kinda cool. I've played 3-4 times with the current iteration and I'm looking to speed the deck up a little bit; lands coming in tapped, not quite enough draw, and too many non-artifact creatures being the two major areas of focus. I've actually reduced the amount of creatures with this round of changes so I need to check that this is OK.

Lands probably need more work, still too many tapped lands by far. Scholar of New horisons is fine, just doesn't fit in the deck, same with Tawnos (who likely needs his own deck, but I have done a few cool things with him). Tempered Steel, Indomitably Archangel and Ethersworn Adjudicator were hard cuts. But I've added removal, ramp in so I want to see if that's better. Tempered Steel with the thopters was particularly good and may get added in.

multimedia on Urza's Engines of Armageddon

8 months ago

Hey, +1 for the deck name! I really like the concept of using Vehicles to crew each other to help to pay for Urza's artifact creature affinity. One creature who can crew a single Vehicle can create a chain that essentially bypasses having to pay for Urza's Commander tax.

You have 10 playable Vehicles here, that's not many if you want a Vehicle strategy. Consider more Vehicles and interactions with Vehicles?

• Anchor to Reality
• Weatherlight, Imposter Mech
• Tezzeret, Betrayer of Flesh
• Greasefang, Okiba Boss

Anchor to Reality is a Vehicle Tinker.

Imposter Mech and Weatherlight are more Vehicles with good effects. Weatherlight can repeatedly look at the top five cards of your library and put any one artifact or legendary card into your hand. The better creatures here who have Vehicle interactions are legendary and Artifact lands are historic. Imposter can become any creature an opponent controls, but it's still an artifact/Vehicle. That's really good with Master Transmuter, who can change what creature Imposer becomes.

Another reason to add more Vehicles is Greasefang, Okiba Boss, Esper, Vehicles and Greasefang go together nicely. Tezzeret, Betrayer of Flesh is an underrated Planeswalker with Vehicles and Greasefang, in fact all of his abilities are good here especially -6 emblem with crew. A Vehicle crew chain can draw a ton of cards if you have his emblem.

Crew is an activated ability thus if it's the first artifact activated ability you use on a player's turn it's 2 less to crew. His +1 is Thirst for Knowledge, draw and discard before combat for Greasefang. -2 effect doesn't end until that Vehicle leaves the battlefield which can really turn any noncreature artifact you control into a 4/4 Vehicle.

• Research Thief, Bident of Thassa
• Losheel, Clockwork Scholar

Research Thief and Bident of Thassa are consistent repeatable draw effects because of Constructs as well as with Vehicles who will most likely have just as easy time then a Construct at doing combat damage to a player. Losheel, Clockwork Scholar is nice with Constructs for combat damage + repeatable draw.

• Ornithopter of Paradise, Fellwar Stone
• Liquimetal Torque
• Sculpting Steel
• Aerial Surveyor
• Cranial Plating

Only seven ramp sources is low amount, consider more ramp? Ornithopter of Paradise without help is not a crewer, but it's good ramp for Urza which is just as important. Liquimetal Torque, if it's not making mana it can make Urza an artifact giving him menace to have an easier time attacking and doing Commander damage. Sculpting Steel can be a mana rock or any other artifact on the battlefield. It's another Metamorph effect which is excellent in multiplayer Commander. Aerial Surveyor is a Vehicle for ramp, but it can only get basic Plains which is still fine.

Cranial Plating is powerful with artifacts and it can be used with 0 power artifacts to make them crewers or attackers.

Good luck with your deck.

SirHipHopHippo on Thoptical Illusion

8 months ago

Cuts: 1. Brudiclad, Telchor Engineer 2. Emry, Lurker of the Loch 3. Enthusiastic Mechanaut 4. Flamewar, Brash Veteran  ^Flip 5. Goldbug, Humanity's Ally  ^Flip 6. Jan Jansen, Chaos Crafter 7. Jhoira, Ageless Innovator 8. Magister Sphinx 9. Myr Battlesphere 10. Myr Moonvessel 11. Myr Retriever 12. Ratchet, Field Medic  ^Flip 13. Scrap Trawler 14. Sharuum the Hegemon 15. Shimmer Myr 16. Teshar, Ancestor's Apostle 17. Slobad, Goblin Tinkerer 18. Brainstorm 19. Reality Heist 20. Thirst for Knowledge 21. Mirrodin Besieged 22. The Antiquities War 23. Imposter Mech 24. Sculpting Steel 25. Shorikai, Genesis Engine 26. Dance of the Manse 27. Faithless Looting

BringerOTBD on Breya, Etherium Shaper

9 months ago

Update: -Marionette Master / +Cyberdrive Awakener -Machine God's Effigy / +Imotekh the Stormlord -Blasphemous Act / +Their Name is Death -Disciple of the Vault / +Steel Overseer -Reverse Engineer / +Losheel, Clockwork Scholar -Bedevil / +Void Rend -Temple of Malice / +Cryptothrall -Temple of Enlightenment / +Optimus Prime, Hero  ^Flip -Temple of Deceit / +Thirst for Knowledge -Temple of Epiphany / +Shivan Reef

Notes: I chose Cryptothrall over Spellskite because they serve the same function, to protect your stuff, but Cryptothrall requires less effort. I put in Optimus because I wanted to experiment with him. Lastly, I'm keeping Austere Command in the deck since I like to have a board wipe that hits enchantments and artifacts.

multimedia on Breya, Etherium Shaper

9 months ago

Hey, interesting version, but you're building your deck with combo mindset without having the last combo piece to win... Building this way could hinder gameplay since you don't want to win with combo? If you're avoiding infinite combos then I presume attacking is main wincon? Consider more effects to make Breya a better attacker and adding board wipe(s) that don't destroy artifact creatures? These wipes pair extremely well with Biotransference.

• Cyberdrive Awakener --> Marionette Master
• Imotekh the Stormlord --> Machine God's Effigy
• Organic Extinction --> Blasphemous Act
• Steel Overseer --> Disciple of the Vault
• Their Name is Death --> Austere Command
• Losheel, Clockwork Scholar --> Reverse Engineer
• Cranial Plating --> Mycosynth Wellspring

If reanimating and recurring artifacts is a strategy then consider Imotekh the Stormlord? It also can make Breya a good attacker, 6/6 with menace. Marionette Master and Disciple of the Vault are subpar if they aren't the wincon of a combo. They can only hit one opponent at a time which is not as good outside of combo compared to Reckless Fireweaver who hits each opponent and Mayhem Devil who can hit any target.

Consider cutting a few lands? The Tri lands, Bridges and Temples all in the same manabase is a lot of lands that always ETB tapped. Of these the Temples are the lesser lands since Bridges are artifacts and Tri lands more color fixing.

• Spellskite --> Temple of Malice
• Counterspell --> Temple of Enlightenment
• Thirst for Knowledge --> Temple of Deceit
• Shivan Reef --> Temple of Epiphany
• Void Rend --> Bedevil

Good luck with your deck.

BahamutDX on Azorius Aggro

1 year ago

What cards most likely to put out in favor for other cards:

• Make Disappear is a bit dubious in there, because we don't want to sac creatures for the Casualty 1. Take it out if you have better counterspells! (For example An Offer You Can't Refuse to encourage your opponent casting their 2nd spell or Essence Capture to put more +1/+1 counters on your stuff)
• You could even add Thirst for Knowledge if you REALLY want to draw your deck!
• Spara's Headquarters is also a bit weird in there. I play it for having another early game option to get U/W mana fast and later in the game for cycling away, but if you think that Adarkar Wastes is a better thing to add, go for it!
• You can always add another Otawara, Soaring City instead of an Island or another Eiganjo, Seat of the Empire for a Plains, if you think, 1 of each isn't enough.

I'll leave this down here for useful additions for the deck in the next sets :D

WhatInTheWhoNow on Lazotep Chancellor Pauper EDH

1 year ago

Thirst for Knowledge, Drake Haven, Trial of Knowledge and maybe Cartouche of Knowledge and Cartouche of Ambition with it. Not sure how good an idea it is to be cycling all your lands. Has that been working in your deck?

Optimator on Ellie and Becky's Box of Tinker Toys

1 year ago

Relic of Progenitus - Scourglass - Prodigy's Prototype - Mirrorworks - Welding Jar - Isochron Scepter - Mirage Mirror - Foreboding Statue  ^Flip - Worn Powerstone - Efficient Construction - Mirrormade - Thirst for Knowledge - Dispatch - Path to Exile - Swords to Plowshares - Reality Shift