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Delve (Each card you exile from your graveyard while casting this spell pays for .)
Take an extra turn after this one. Exile Temporal Trespass.
2 months ago
Hey,ThatWeirdPerson I made an attempt at a budget version that should still function similarly to this one. Some of the non basics aren't really needed and can be cut based on budget restrictions. The deck uses the new gates opposed to Gaea's Cradle and Field of the Dead to generate mana for the combo. Nexus of Fate instead of Temporal Trespass and Memnarch instead of Mycosynth Lattice
Decklist: Battle of Wits (Budget Edition)
3 months ago
Always wanted to make something with this dude but I never knew what to do. This strange pile of cards is beyond interesting. It's a cohesive strategy with focus. Inexpensive but it gives off competitive vibes.
Your maybe board:
Temporal Trespass YES.
River Kelpie fits the commander and strategy so well.
Everything else I was indifferent about but I have never piloted this list so you would know better than I.
I'm just going to spitball some cards that came to mind that might fit your unique deck design:
Forbid a reusable hard counter that feeds your discard/graveyard strategy.
Long-Term Plans my favorite blue tutor.
Deserted Temple more versatile Minamo.
5 months ago
I've only played 5 cEDH games so far (won 2 lost 3).
I'm at 29 lands, hasn't been an issue yet, thinking of going to 30? I'm also short an Imperial Seal really need that card in here unfortunately.
I run Doomsday only tried to win that way once, was counterspell though (too bad).
6 months ago
Cards to consider:
I'm especially gonna insist on Flamespeaker Adept because of all the Scry you'll have going on. Temporal Trespass is doable because of all the permanent spells currently in your deck. I hope this helps. Happy Hunting!
6 months ago
Couple early questions if you don't mind. Let me know if I'm a bother :) My Yuri Deck
You have 15 enablers, I read the notes on them, couple questions. What's the critical mass on this, like would 10 be deterimental. When I did a rough pull in had the following questions:
Kaito Shizuki thoughts? I'm worried that the CMC3 for the -2 is the wrong tempo/timing, but, he does come in, make a unblockable, then phase out to also get the draw next turn. If you don't need the unblockable, it's draw 2 for CMC3, tough to see hitting his ultimate at 7. 3CMC planeswalker are usually good, some I'm tempted to think this one will be too? But I have no play experience on this deck.
I just can't get my head around the flying evasion guys though, Faerie Seer, Spectral Sailor, Wingcrafter, Augury Owl, Sage Owl. They feel "sub-optimal" to me and difficult to include, but as I said what's the critical mass here? I was considering Baleful Strix in the 2CMC drop, just because he replaces himself in hand (which may just be discarded anyway, but looting never that bad anyway), with deathtouch less likely to be blocked by flying/reach, and he can be an effective (deathtouch) defender.
I've roughed in "12" for the timebeing.
Honestly my first thought was this is a turbo-draw to tutor, fish-pact/fish-consul strategy. I was looking at Tatsunari, Toad Rider instead, but I think I like "big splashy spells" more than the aristocrats method. So that got me thinking, what the heck do I win with, is this viable or am I off-base here:
Tertiary Maverick 'Turn and Burn': Temporal Trespass, Temporal Mastery, Temporal Manipulation, Capture of Jingzhou with perhaps something like Sea Gate Restoration Flip or Dig Through Time as possible damage enablers in addition to the 'turn'.
I skipped Secondary intentionally, is there no room here for a Doomsday? I can think of multiple stacks with varied CMC, E.G. if devotion to blue 3 + Doomsday + Thassa's Oracle (BBBUU) is a win, if you don't have Thassa's Oracle, somethig like Doomsday + Gitaxian Probe/Street Wraith into a Night's Whisper or something could be around CMC7, Gush kinda useless here for a CMC3 (BBB) stack.
Thoughts on that? I see you intentionally don't run the fish, but this seems viable for this deck?
For Scheming Symmetry doesn't the player just pull a counterspell to stop your win, does it really "win on the spot", if you have to pass it feels useless, but with Nashi, Moon Sage's Scion or Opposition Agent it does work. Reliability? I "should"? run it?
Has Mutavault been enough value for a possible swing vs. the downside of the colorless mana? It dodges board wipe and is a ninja, so kinda-of makes sense to me, but I'm on the fence?
I do have TOO MANY potential colorless mana Ancient Tomb, Gemstone Caverns, Reliquary Tower, Strip Mine. I feel like Reliquary Tower is a trap and I should remove, where I feel like, what's my strategy vs. a Glacial Chasm or Maze of Ith.
It's still a work in progress, I think I need more Ninjas then I have, still evaluating them one by one, and trying to figure out what each tutor gets me, but first I need to know what my win-con plans are to know what i'm looking for!
Thanks for any feedback you can provide.
10 months ago
Ok so I didn't check to see if any of these were in the deck already but... here's my list of suggestions!
It's a lot of cards so...
- Imperial Seal
- Personal Tutor
- Vampiric Tutor
- Liliana Vess
- Cruel Tutor
- Diabolic Vision
- Nephalia Academy
- Library of Leng
- Aqueous Form
- Ashiok, Dream Render
- Augury Owl
- Baleful Mastery
- Bolas's Citadel
- Cabal Coffers
- Castle Vantress
- Commit / Memory
- Connive / Concoct
- Curse of the Cabal
- Darksteel Pendant
- Dauthi Voidwalker
- Deadly Rollick
- Devastation Tide
- Dig Through Time
- Discovery / Dispersal
- Far / Away
- Fierce Guardianship
- Force of Will
- Grazilaxx, Illithid Scholar
- Gudul Lurker
- Into the Story
- Invisible Stalker
- Jace, the Mind Sculptor
- Key to the City
- Krydle of Baldur's Gate
- Looter il-Kor
- Mist-Cloaked Herald
- Murderous Cut
- Nether Traitor
- Never / Return
- Nexus of Fate
- Opposition Agent
- Phantom Ninja
- Rags / Riches
- Rogue Class
- Sage Owl
- Scroll Rack
- Sea Gate Restoration Flip
- Sensei's Divining Top
- Siren Stormtamer
- Spire Owl
- Spite / Malice
- Strionic Resonator
- Temporal Trespass
- Tetsuko Umezawa, Fugitive
- Thalakos Seer
- The Cauldron of Eternity
- The Magic Mirror
- Thespian's Stage
- Tormented Soul
- Treasure Cruise
- Triton Shorestalker
- Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
- Varragoth, Bloodsky Sire
- Whispersilk Cloak
- Deserted Temple
- Taigam's Scheming
Again some of these may be cut worthy but off the cuff this is what I came up with. Also I didn't include any ninjas... I figure they are easy enough to find
1 year ago
Ah, Dimir. Blue-black is where you come to turn an opponent’s soul these exact colors, sidestepping their defenses in order to slip a scalpel right in their feels. Combining the thematic terror of black with all the manipulations of blue, if you think about it, is one of the most disturbing, creepy tactics in magic. Forget psychological warfare: blue-black is about marinating the psyche of your opponent in anxiety, slow-roasting it over the fires of depression, lathering it in the sauce of their own inadequacy, and finally feeding them their own deliciously barbecued will to live. Think I'm exaggerating? Consider these titles. Glimpse the Unthinkable. Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver. Freaking Brainbite!!!
If you think this comes from a place of dislike, think again. I have a deep affection for this nasty little mix. Making opponents flip their collective gourds in a sporting way makes me very, very happy. Today, we’ll be going over three primary themes of commanders who embody Dimir chicanery: Mill, Rogues, and Theft. As always, please bear in mind the point isn’t to discuss the competitive but rather to celebrate the thematic.
The magic equivalent of memory loss, mill suffers in commander: eating through 99 cards is a tall order, and opponents with an original eldrazi titan somewhere in there may well fetch you the worst insult of all and ignore you. There are ways around that, of course, but this is an inarguably uphill climb. Which, of course, makes for a delightful challenge the Dimir will gleefully help you meet. Just ask Nemesis of Reason. It’s very, very hard to protect one’s library, and there’s something truly horrible in watching all your goodies piff away without even hitting your hand.
If you’ve read this series through, you might remember that my oldest deck is mono-green. It’ll be no surprise to you, then, that when I was learning commander I lived in abject horror of Oona. Anyone running a mono-colored deck is going to feel targeted by this hideously nasty commander. Do you even need a strategy to play her, beyond ramp? Honestly, she rather plays herself: even outside her chosen prey, “Exile X” on a stick is very, very spicy, and when you’ve got your chosen prey they may well scoop when you play Kindred Discovery. Remember those eldrazi? Screw those eldrazi.
Hail the mighty poo beetle. No, it doesn’t actively mill, but HOLY BALLS OF ROLLING SHIT does it reward milling! There is a fine, fine pool of zombies in dimir colors, and when that palls you can make your own. I’ve never seen this played, but to be honest I don’t want to, especially since the mighty poo beetle will always be five mana… maybe I want to see this played. By me. Scry X? Bleed X? Army of the Damned, anyone?
Now this is general damage. This is also, in my opinion, a genuinely bad idea for those who aim for winning rather than fun. Seven mana for a 5/5 flyer who doesn’t actually do damage to opponents? Less than competitive, shall we say, but certainly neat and themey. Stuff like Dauthi Voidwalker or Leyline of the Void do nothing to undermine Szadek’s growing spree, and embiggening this already self-embiggening boi could make for a very, very scary board presence. And seeing this work, making this work, would be undeniably fun.
I say ‘rogues’ not as the creature type, but as the overall concept of sneaky sneaks sneaking off to perpetrate sneakiness. See Rogue Class or Dimir Cutpurse and you’ll get where I’m coming from. Dimir is the guild of spies and intrigue, so it’s no surprise that blue-black rewards the “Doink! Nyuk-nyuk-nyuk” playstyle. If your passion drives you toward little bodies that pilfer, plunder, or otherwise profit on the swing, look no further.
Zareth is an odd choice to be commander. He functionally has Ninjutsu, but unlike a certain upcoming favorite has no provision for command zones. If you like thinking around corners, there is actually a fair bit of support to be found. Run an aura theme, for instance, and stick Necromancer's Magemark on a spare dude. Or Phantom Wings on the man himself. Zareth will reward you, and as for the second half of his text, it’s a doozy. Mill/kill your opponent’s stuff, then steal it. Good times.
This is a heavily themed card, combining tribal, milling, and draw elements in a nice little vampiric package. Not quite the unpleasant beast that the original Anowon is, but still nice. Be sure to include Notorious Throng.
Instead of a profitable army of petty thugs, you may prefer just the one guy. For actual command damage, Szadek’s replacement has an inarguably better grasp of the job. Mill yourself. You know you can. Clone yourself an unblockable midget, then switch into a Phyrexian Dreadnought (or something similarly large but more affordable) before you tag them. This guy is an absurdly versatile toolkit. Just avoid jerks with Lignify. Hehehe…
We’ve talked thieves, now let’s talk actual yoink. Blue and black are the only colors with access to consistent, long-term swipage, and combining them inevitably brings you to a natural conclusion: why make a plan when you can steal someone else’s?
Keiga, the Tide Star called. She’s pressing charges on the grounds of copyright infringement. Dragon? Check. Six mana? Check. Theft? Big ol’ check. When combined with blink and a sac outlet, this big and greedy cheese can steal an army. And, if you do this to a super-friends player, maybe lose you a friendship.
This guy’s just neat, especially if there’s some cocky twit in your local meta who likes taking extra turns. Mill him a bit, then tag him. He’ll stop that right quick. Bonus points if you get somebody to make a custom version of this guy as a certain cosmic entity. Ph'nglui mglw'nafh, Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn.
Do you like Sen Triplets, but not artifacts, white, or being thrown out of playgroups? Xanathar doesn’t pilfer hands, but libraries are fair game. The utility of certain tutors is suddenly very, very much in the eye of the beholder (sorry, I had to). Run stuff like Thoughtpicker Witch, Painful Memories, or Sealed Fate, and enjoy your monopoly on topdecks… I kind of want this one too.
And, for my personal favorite...
My darling, dearest Yuriko. Readers know my love for Kamigawa, so imagine my roaring delight when this beauty was released. There are 346 rogues currently in print. There are only 22 ninjas, and not all of them are good, but even the piddliest ninja becomes horrifying when Yuriko is out (and thanks to ninjutsu, she’s ALWAYS out). There’s a weird imbalance encouraged here: lots of inexpensive bodies digging for absurdly expensive spells. At the worst, you draw some cards. At absolute best, you smack the table for eleven damage by revealing Temporal Trespass… which you then cast for three mana, you magnificent bastard.
That's it for this round. Thoughts and questions are welcome. I hope you enjoyed it, and will come back next week for Rakdos!
1 year ago
Guardian of the Gateless , Angel of Renewal , Banshee of the Dread Choir , Beguiler of Wills , Emancipation Angel , Jhessian Thief , Keening Apparition , Kor Hookmaster , Kor Sanctifiers , Lightkeeper of Emeria , Nullmage Shepherd , Soul Warden , Spawnbinder Mage , Stormcaller of Keranos , Transluminant , Twilight Shepherd , Voice of the Provinces , Cursebreak , Memory Lapse , Angelic Accord , Stab Wound , Endless Obedience , Temporal Trespass , Dueling Rapier , Vorpal Sword (The new one with the girl holding it), Angel of Glory's Rise , Angelic Skirmisher , Archangel Avacyn Flip, Avacyn, Angel of Hope , Avacyn, Guardian Angel , Gisela, the Broken Blade , Linvala, the Preserver , Luminous Angel , Resolute Archangel , and Requiem Angel