Format Legality
Tiny Leaders Legal
Noble Legal
Leviathan Legal
Magic Duels Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Vintage Legal
Arena [BETA] Legal
Vanguard Legal
Legacy Legal
Archenemy Legal
Planechase Legal
1v1 Commander Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Unformat Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal

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Set Rarity
Masterpiece Series: Amonkhet Invocations (AKHMPS) None
Tempest Remastered (TPR) Rare
Exodus (EXO) Uncommon
Promo Set (000) Uncommon

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Buyback - Discard two cards.

Counter target spell.

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Forbid Discussion

Osbert on Tatyova Good Stuff

1 week ago

Any commander that has "draw a card" printed on it makes me really want to play Forbid. After you gain enough advantage this can lock out a single opponent forever.

In a similar theme Leyline of Anticipation is still very strong and can cost 0.

Sunder is as good as MLD and you will be the player putting the most lands back down.

You are incredibly light on win conditions. Avenger of Zendikar is an army in a box and given the opening will kill a player.

Overburden seems like appropriate stax. Also consider Hurkyl's Recall and Rebuild to remove artifact ramp and combo pieces from opponents boards.

Njirk on Dragonlord Silumgar

1 week ago

Hi there, I'm from the advertise your commander thread.

I used to have a Nin, the Pain Artist deck based on stealing and copying your opponents stuff. I always liked to win using your opponents cards, so its nice to see a deck with a similar theme.

I think your current build has a lot of room for optimization as there are many cards that have strictly or subjectively better counterparts. These are some suggestions for cards I would replace and what with:

I would probably drop the flicker subtheme you currently have because you dont run a lot of creatures and go down a few lands (37 should be fine) in favor of more draw (Rhystic Study & Mystic Remora are nice). Also, one of the good things about black is the access to tutors. By adding tutors you increase the consistency of your deck, as they effectively serve as an extra copy of all the other cards in your deck. Lim-Dul's Vault, Beseech the Queen and Dark Petition are some good relatively cheap ones. (If you want to invest a bit of money in it, Demonic Tutor and Vampiric Tutor are great.)

I hope this helps and good luck with deckbuilding!

PS. Dont forget to comment on the previously posted deck in the 'advertise your commander deck' thread. ;)

gergonthedestroyer on Mizzix of the Izmagnus, I'll burn!

2 weeks ago

I really like some of your ideas to produce mana and will be incorporating them into my version. It's Mizzix in the Mix if you would like to look and see if my ideas work for you.

I went more "all in" on the experience counters and have found that colored mana is at a premium. Therefore, I changed my counter spells from things like Counterflux, Dissipate, or Spell Crumple to things like Condescend, Power Sink, or Syncopate. That way I only need one blue open and I always get an experience counter. Mindswipe gives added burn value, and I like Spell Burst over Forbid as the game lock.

I also tried to replace creatures with spells where possible, so Archaeomancer turned into Mystic Retrieval and Recall, and Lunar Mystic turned into Whispers of the Muse. I also found that effects like Guttersnipe and Electrostatic Field didn't work as well for me as just having another burn spell. This may just personal style though.

Blasphemous Act takes out Mizzix with everything else. You could try Bonfire of the Damned, Sudden Demise, or even Rolling Thunder for some board control. Fanning the Flames looks even better in your list than mine I think.

You are right about there being a problem if Mizzix gets too expensive. I added Inexorable Tide to keep the experience counters coming even with Mizzix in the Command Zone. That allows you to just set up for one big turn where you recast him and win.

Trainyaj on Staring into the Moon (Mono Blue)

3 weeks ago

Msycio Baral, Chief of Compliance + Metallurgic Summonings + Talrand, Sky Summoner are all good. Forbid while good is not as good as Sinister Sabotage. Also please take a look at Large:Baral Ultra Budget Hate which is my take on mono-blue EDH.

Trainyaj on Baral Ultra Budget Hate

3 weeks ago

goldlion I looked at Decree of Silence + Tidespout Tyrant but there mana costs are too high. Also for Forbid I think that the buyback cost is too high as you are already discarding everything you don't need. Also this is a control deck so I don't want to have to put in big creatures for Zenith Seeker. Everything else looks great though.

goldlion on Baral Ultra Budget Hate

3 weeks ago

After reading your commander I immediately went to the list for a madness deck I'm working on. Here's some cards I could see that might fit. I especially like the idea of playing off the discard.

K4m4r0 on Nobody has the intention of building a Wall

1 month ago

Vlasiax I honestly didn't thought about this before because I wasn't in need of a lot more cards but I will definitely keep it in mind and test it. Thank you.

mattmccrackin Thank you for your suggestions. For a vigilance-like effekt I use Masako the Humorless and for "trample" Tetsuko Umezawa, Fugitive. Vivien wouldn't survive long enough in our meta, since there is lot of hate against planeswalkers, for whatever reason. But you gave me an interesting idea and I will do some research. For Forbid to use effectively, the carddraw had to be extended. Also, I really love Colossus of Akros, but it has been a dead card in early games and even when I played him he didn't make his mana back. Most of the games I tested with him ended before he released his full potential or he died to artifact or creature removal.

thcue That is great, have fun with the deck!

mattmccrackin on Nobody has the intention of building a Wall

1 month ago

I have a couple quick questions: have you considered running Forbid in here as a reuseable counter spell? With the card draw that is produced, the buyback should be easily achieved. Also I am wondering if you have found anything that gives them vigilance or additional boosts ((trample, flying, etc)? That would be highly beneficial. Cards like Always Watching, or even Vivien Reid. Also I am not sure if it was mentioned for late game aspect but Colossus of Akros would be great.

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