Anvil of Bogardan
Players have no maximum hand size.
At the beginning of each player's draw step, that player draws an additional card, then discards a card.
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Anvil of Bogardan occurrence in decks from the last year
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Anvil of Bogardan Discussion
2 days ago
Well of Knowledge and Rites of Flourishing are odd cards I found worked well when I ran this guy as a commander. On the surface level, they reduce your threat level in multiplayer (after all, you're doing nice stuff for them, aren't you?), but in actuality, they're filling their hands out as fast as possible.
Dragon Fangs doesn't target on it's triggered ability, so once it's in the yard Multani will get trample each time he's cast.
2 weeks ago
Anvil of Bogardan doesnt work well with Megrim and Liliana's Caress they only discard one card. and because you skip the discard phase, you dont exactly purge your hand down to 7,same with opponents. if oyu keep those two discard type cards, i would use Invisible Stalker regardless of her liking creatures, and Whispering Madness and cipher that card on to the stalker.every time the stalker hits, it causes hand resets and discards. Id also use Waste Not with madness. drop the white cards for stalker, madness and waste not, and you have a fairly mean simple deck. and yes Dark Ritual for mana ramp. Norn's Annex while technically white, doesnt need white mana too cast, just 4 life, and slows attacking down big time, especially if they dont have white mana to pay the cost. Vengeful Pharaoh will also kill off creatures that attack should annex fail, and is a card you discard with Whispering Madness rather than casting it
4 weeks ago
My last game of 2019 ended in a five-player tie after a four-and-a-half hour match. Exquisite.
At one point, I had Font of Mythos , Howling Mine , Anvil of Bogardan , and Walking Archive out on the field. Most of the board had been wiped by a "destroy all nonland, nonartifact permanents" spell (which was warranted, since I had basically my whole deck on board). With all the card draws I had, I also had over one hundred treasure tokens from the recently removed Smothering Tithe (great card, by the way; even better with Teferi's Puzzle Box ). I dumped it all into Walking Archive , now with twenty-six counters.
It looked like I was about to win; each of my opponents had less than thirty cards in the library (one even at seven). But in the true spirit of my deck, I cast Emergency Powers , effectively resetting the game.
To think, this all started because I wanted an excuse to run Haunted Angel .
1 month ago
Thanks for checking out the deck and for the comments. I greatly appreciate it! I'll start from the top:
Imp's Mischief - The card is great without question and can be game winning in the right situation, however, I think it's a much better fit in a Xiahou Dun, the One-Eyed control deck, which can easily recur it every turn. As I have to rely on XHD being in the 99, the value of Imp's Mischief is lower for Chainer. I'll never tutor for it and end up having to draw into it. I've also had situations where it sat in my hand being unable to cast because people are casting non target sorceries/instants or taking non targetable extra turns XD. Another aspect is that the card became fairly infamous in my meta and people were aware of the tricks I could do with Imp's Mischief or Sudden Spoiling . When I was leaving 2-3 mana open it was fairly telegraphed. Over time I may add it back in as I love the tricky unexpected stuff in black (Imps, Sudden Spoiling, Darkness )
In regards to Grave Titan , the slot was contested by three cards. Originally I was running Sengir Autocrat , which in my opinion is superior to both Grave Titan and Wurmcoil Engine . I figured I needed some additional lifegain as I encountered some life issues in the previous game sessions. Wurmcoil Engine fits the similar niche as Grave Titan and with Nim Deathmantle Zombie clause, allows for Gravecrawler loops. Wurmcoil containing Lifelink was what made me choose it over Grave Titan. With Mikaeus, the Unhallowed and Ashnod's Altar , we could make infinite deathtouch or lifelink tokens + infinite mana. I've spent most of the day today thinking about this slot and ultimately I think I'm going back to Sengir Autocrat . It has better synergy with Skullclamp and Razaketh, the Foulblooded AND most importantly breaks parity on Chainer/Altars/Aristocrats/ETC. We end up netting and 1 life as opposed to Grave Titan or Wurmcoil Engine .
About Artifact/Enchantment hate: I chose Oblivion Stone over Nevinyrral's Disk due to how many mana doubling cards I'm running. This allows me to play and active O-stone on the same turn, which is less telegraphed than NDisk. Also it doesn't suffer requiring to untap+survive a turn on a table to use, which makes it superior in my eyes. If I had to add another card it would be All Is Dust most likely cutting Sheoldred, Whispering One . Time will tell if this is required but at this state I'm unsure yet. In a dreamland we can 'theoretically' deal all perms with Mikaeus, the Unhallowed + Meteor Golem + Ashnod's Altar + Nim Deathmantle .
Necropotence is there :). I do like Syphon Mind but I'm running Night's Whisper + Sign in Blood as they're cheaper to use. I'd rather be developing/Controling board w/ 4cmc cards. Nights Whisper+Sign in Blood could be subbed for something else. I'll test em as is for now.
The three lands that I removed could be detrimental but I'm not sure. I'll need to test it live, but I've been goldfishing for hours every day throughout the week. 30 lands seems fine with the recent minor rebuild.
1 month ago
I agree with all of your recent edits except Imp's Mischief - It counters counterspells (although as you said yourself, blue isn't prevalent) redirect removal, redirect extra turn spells, etc... Very powerful versatile card. Yes it's a bit conditional, but the + side IMO far outweighs the negative.
No Grave Titan for nim deathmantle or just overall goodness?
Where is your artifact and enchantment hate, as without it, you are shit out of luck in certain matchups since you can't always rely on politics. The below isn't extensive but is meant to give you an idea of the better removal you have access to. What you choose is up to you.
EDIT: Just realized you have 0-Stone but as someone above commented, artifact hate stops it, so you might want to consider another option (as well, or to even replace it perhaps, dependent on how much artifact hate you face). Meteor golem is nice too, glad to see its in here.
I would love to see a list of combos the deck has. So far I see...
- Mike + Trike
- Basalt + Rings + Top
- Coffers + temple + rings (and swamps/urborg)
- Grave titan combo if you add it
I know you just added it in but Font of Agonies seems weak, I would replace it with some more card draw or interaction. Perhaps an Infernal Darkness to Anvil of Bogardan to go with chains as another wincon? It also helps fuel your GY strategies and provides virtual card advantage.
Your land count seems low, even with all the ramp. Be sure to let us know how cutting the lands in your recent update has played out.
2 months ago
This deck can draw cards to combo with the dredge trigger. Both Anvil of Bogardan and Mentor of the Meek have proven their worth. But in all honesty having more cards that do that would help this deck become more aggressive.
Tireless Tracker is a card I've considered but have never play tested with. That beings said I think I need to make room for it. The same goes for Sylvan Library . I could take Dauntless Escort out for one of those cards, not sure about the other. Maybe Masked Admirers . Do any cards seem unworthy to you?
As for Runic Armasaur it is definitely interesting, but like you said it could be a dead card. I might consider using it down the line. Now for Oakhame Adversary . This card really isn't my style. Yes you can get the value on the CMC but it won't be able to net you any cards until the following turn, if that. Still I like the suggestion.
2 months ago
I like your deck! It has a similar flavor to my Grixis Twisted Group Hug (No Pain, No Gain!), where I can help with cards and effects, but at a cost. The idea was a Zedruu the Greathearted , but with black, black being my favorite Mtg color. I invite you to take a look at my deck and draw some inspiration from it. One of the principles of the deck is that I don't target destroy/exile/counterspell anything; "that wouldn't be nice, from a good guy that helps you, eh?". I personnally found that Illicit Auction and Pain's Reward are such fun cards and can hurt a player so bad at the same time ! You could also consider any cards with the Join Forces and Tempting Offer mechanics. If I do help someone, it is not everybody, like I originally would have like. So to be honest, I may rename my deck "Grixis Bitter Hugs" -because I think it is more accurate than "Grixis Twisted Group Hug"- if you don't mind. While commenting, I took time to update my deck's description, which was pretty much empty before lol
You could also add Anvil of Bogardan , Oracle's Vault , Outpost Siege , Vance's Blasting Cannons Flip, Bloodgift Demon , Indulgent Tormentor , Well of Lost Dreams ... Phyrexian Arena is a must, Rhystic Study is a beast (but pricy $), Mystic Remora is great and you could add also Braid of Fire , comboing with Luminarch Ascension . For more lands, add Land Tax , Knight of the White Orchid , Weathered Wayfarer , Sword of the Animist , Thaumatic Compass Flip, Journeyer's Kite ...
3 months ago
Have you already considered Words of Waste ? When this is on the battlefield it would have good direct synergy with your cards like: Syphon Mind , Geth's Grimoire , Anvil of Bogardan or Phyrexian Arena .
I've considered building my Nekusar deck upon handhate, exciting to see other players considering a discard type of deck. I'm curious about how good handhate of a strategy is. How has it worked out so far?