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Tainted Pact Discussion
4 days ago
Realistically I'd partner it with Hermit Druid and go for an obvious OP cEDH deck with Druid in the CZ and 4 colors to abuse it.
Outside of that easy pick, there are a few other ones that would be hilarious, such as Laboratory Maniac and just run the Tainted Pact / Demonic Consultation win or perhaps a Notion Thief in the CZ and using basically a better Leovold deck.
I mean, those three would be oppressive to the point of banning, but just imagine having any of 100 other staple powerful creatures in there, Seedborn Muse would have a million combos, think running Winter Orb and Static Orb or even Stasis while you untap your permanents every player's turn holding up for countermagic even when you tapped out the turn before!
Godo, Bandit Warlord now has all 5 colors and has the instant win in the CZ?
Urza, Lord High Artificer has access to 3 more colors? Fun!
Point is, Atarka isn't close to reasonable in terms of the busted nature of this card.
1 week ago
Martin2789: I honestly forgot about Dead being in the budget list and had done half and half in the Primer as a “just in case” Tainted Pact mana base (as it provides to the best possible chance to hit off the tutor). It makes more sense to keep the budget list on all Snows.
1 week ago
Gilded Drake is easily one of the best creatures in the deck and in competitive EDH metagames in general. Stealing generals which run away with the game like Gitrog, Zur, Urza, Thrasios and others is just too good to pass up on. Sometimes I even joke about the real general of this deck being anything your opponents are playing as you have all the tutors that fetch Drake, often even directly into play. Drake also is borked with Yarok contrary to popular belief, as you get to do a 3-way switch, stealing one creature and forcing opponents to swap between Drake and one other creature (you also choose each target as you control Drake when it enters play).
You can play infinite mana outlet draw spells if you like. This Yarok list just emphasizes on putting most if not all of the required draw outlet cards into ETB-creature form, which can be tutored with the same creature tutors that fetch combo cards like Cloud of Faeries and Shrieking Drake . These ETB creatures also work as decent topdecks and get amplified by Yarok's extra triggers and bounce engines, allowing you to save deckslots by not really needing any X draw spells to go off consistently. One of the main appeals of Yarok lists arguably is precisely the fact that they don't require any "dedicated" outlet cards to win games, save for the occasional Laboratory Maniac or Jace, Wielder of Mysteries which are just too good win cards to not include in many lists ( Demonic Consultation / Tainted Pact + Lab Man win lines are the meta right now in most stalled games where there are many stax pieces out and counterspells ready to fire).
Lim-Dul's Vault is not included mainly due to personal preference; I like to use its slot to playtest other cards almost as a baseline. You can definitely run it in your deck, and that list would most likely be better for it.
4 weeks ago
Tiphus Well done, this deck looks very good. What I like is that you have included many Counterspell s, Tainted Pact seems a fantastic choice. An eyecatcher is Mnemonic Betrayal , I'm curious how it does work when playing it in this deck. I see some potential in improve the deck, but at this time it is for sure competitive (There are of course many ways to up- or downgrade it).
As I see this is definitely a combo deck, and if you are going deeper into the wincon with Laboratory Maniac I strongly recommend Doomsday . Maybe this card helps you to get also other needed cards to close the game.
One of the problems of Circu, Dimir Lobotomist is that he should not get attacked. Taking a look at some creatures seems fair. Depending on your playgroup you may add something with deathtouch like Baleful Strix , Tomebound Lich is a bit underestimated but also worth a try. You have so many instants and sorceries so Talrand, Sky Summoner and/or Murmuring Mystic could be interesting to fill your board an get some defense.
The other thing to take a look at is your life points. When testing my Circu, Dimir Lobotomist -deck the game goes on, an on, an on, and sometimes the combos didn't work (e.g. got countered, or the commander got destroyed) and the life total got lower and lower.
But in general your decklist looks already great, you definitely got the message behind this commander.
1 month ago
If you remove 6-7 islands for the other fetchable lands or lands with other names, you could add Tainted Pact which can also be used as another instant speed tutor or wincon with Lab man or new Jace.
This deck is very similar to my list if youd like to chekc it out: OONA, Queen of the Combo im also in the proccess of getting a tainted pact as the foil is a bit expensive, hence why its in the maybeboard for now.
1 month ago
Tainted Pact actually exiles cards, so maybe it's not a good option.
1 month ago
Since you don't run duplicate basic lands, Tainted Pact should be pretty good. Since you are already running changelings, Gravecrawler and Haakon, Stromgald Scourge can substitute Oathsworn Vampire in the combo. Check out my list: Edgar Aggro
Tainted Pact occurrence in decks from the last year
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