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Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver
+2: Exile the top three cards of target opponent's library.
-X: Put a creature card with converted mana cost X exiled with Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver onto the battlefield under your control. That creature is a Nightmare in addition to its other types.
-10: Exile all cards from all opponents' hands and graveyards.
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Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver Discussion
20 hours ago
Hey bro, cool idea! I've played tonnes of delver in both modern and legacy (tempo is my favorite archetype). At the moment I'm testing out sultai in modern for the same reasons you are testing this - bolt is in a bad place :(
A couple of small suggestions:- test remands over mana leaks here... I think you won't be disappointed. The card is busted in a tempo shell. Also, you play path to exile so leak becomes dead much faster than in other delver lists whereas remand at worst always cycles.- I would cut 1 tasigur for a geist. he is really good in modern right now, many decks just lose to this card especially backed up with cheap creature removal (which your deck has in spades). No bolts means you wouldn't want more than a single copy I think but the card really is good at the moment. Cut tasigur because even though he is a sweet threat, he is actually less valuable in a delver shell than in say a midrange/control shell - you often don't have enough lands to activate him therefore losing out on that sweet sweet CA.
Other than that I really like your numbers. 12 is a pretty nice number for creatures in modern delver as you don't have good top-of-library manipulation i.e. brainstorm. Lingering souls is a fantastic threat that also flips delver which is great, but 3cmc is rough. I like that you don't have a full playset here, although it does work well with thought scour :)
If you are interested here is my current list I'm testing for sultai - points of note include no thought scour, instead running think twice for some sweet sweet CA
1 week ago
Ideas that we thought of while you were here:
Ajani Vengeant - possibly 2 (Maybe board)
Spreading Seas - 4 of them
Yahenni's Expertise - 2 of them (Sideboard)
Remove 1 Path to Exile for # 7
Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver instead of Ajani or Nahiri
Take out Mana Leaks for Spreading Seas
Add Tolaria West
1 week ago
I dislike the use of Glimpse the Unthinkable as it costs more money than my existence at my local store or any store for that matter (it was originally in the deck until I saw the price). Thought Scour is good, but I rather have Tome Scour in there for a low mana mill, and thought scour is a little slow and from my play testing, card draw is not an issue at all. Sphinx's Tutelage does most certainly not need to be upped to 4, even though it is low mana, and is a wonderful card, having more would choke my deck for other cards, and ultimately I only need them early game for the first 5-8 turns until they completely mill out, at which point it is only useful to me as card draw which I only need 1 of them for. Grimoire Thief seems like a cool card, but it removes their cards from the game. I will consider it, but the overall concept of the deck is that the cards end up in the graveyard for later use by other cards such as Liliana Vess or Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver. Removing them from the game 3 at a time and then using them as 1 counter spell seems like such a waste of potential resources for my other cards.
2 weeks ago
That's also too many delve critters, especially in a format without Gitaxian Probe. Personally, I only run a singleton Tasigur, the Golden Fang in my list. I use Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet and Goblin Dark-Dwellers as my other beaters. Jace, Vryn's Prodigy Flip is another good creature to have since it basically becomes Snapcaster Mage copies 5 through 8. Pia and Kiran Nalaar, Keranos, God of Storms, Vendilion Clique, and Spellskite are also good options. You can even use these slots for planeswalkers, depending on your meta. Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver, Jace, Architect of Thought, and Liliana, the Last Hope are all good here.
I think you want to go with a lot of removal, but you should still have some countermagic. I've found Remand, Cryptic Command, and low-mana hard Counterspells (Dispel, Spell Snare, etc.) are what I prefer.
2 weeks ago
I've thought about adding Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver however not sure if I'd remove Doom Blade. Nightveil Specter is a great card I'll consider making room for it. Thank you for the helpful suggestions, however a +1 would also have been appreciated.
2 weeks ago
2 weeks ago
This gatherer search gave me the following cards (for the sake of being thorough, I am including the cards that you already mentioned):
- Breaking / Entering
- Daxos of Meletis
- Gonti, Lord of Luxury
- Grenzo, Havoc Raiser
- Jace, Architect of Thought
- Jace's Mindseeker
- Jeleva, Nephalia's Scourge
- Knacksaw Clique
- Mind's Dilation
- Nightveil Specter
- Ornate Kanzashi
- Talent of the Telepath
- Villainous Wealth
- Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver
- Extract from Darkness
- Geth, Lord of the Vault (sorta, since he mills stuff that he can then let you get)
- Helm of Obedience
- Lord of the Vault
- Oblivion Sower
- Telemin Performance
- Thought Dissector
Hope I was of some help!
3 weeks ago
Glimpse the Unthinkable is a great card, if you can afford it. Breaking is almost as good at 1/30th the price. Also if you are going to play Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver I would up the count to 3, and add in Jace, Memory Adept as well. One last card I would add, and is a sneaky way to kill someone is Duskmantle Guildmage. Activate it twice with Jace's 0 and you hit them for 20...sneaky, yes?