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, , Sacrifice Boros Cluestone: Draw a card.
Max_Hammer on Boros
4 months ago
fszk I can definitely do that!
Step one is deciding on whether you want to make soldier tokens specifically or just any type of creature. It doesn't really matter, they're both good and fun to play, but I'll give you suggestions for both.
You want to use cards like Assemble the Legion, Skyknight Vanguard, and Outlaws' Merriment to consistently make a tokens. Which, y'know, in Boros token spam you're probably going to want a lot of those.
Then you're going to want a reason to make so many tokens. Either something to buff them like Honored Crop-Captain and Felidar Retreat or a reward for having so many creatures Halo Fountain (Expensive, but you really only need 2 copies), Seraph of the Masses or Kolaghan Forerunners. You could also use something like Goblin Bombardment, Impact Tremors, or Cavalcade of Calamity. What you pick here is going to change a lot of what you pick for other parts.
And now for mana! White and red don't have a lot of great mana ramp, but classic artifacts like Boros Signet, Boros Keyrune, or Boros Cluestone. Prosperous Partnership could work well, too. Goblin Trenches could be snazzy if you care to add in white catch-up cards, but I'd stick to Prosperous and Signet.
Anyway, uhh, I just said a lot of stuff. That's my definition of some pointers. You don't want to know what a lot of pointers looks like. Good luck and feel free to ask for more assistance. (:
5 months ago
I've tried to keep this deck nearly 50% White and 50% Red.
I've narrowed the premise of this deck down to the following categories, 50 Cards to the first, and 10 cards to each other category, give or take.
50% of the Deck is the Commander, Land, Mana rocks, and Draw.
10% is Steal/Keep
10% is Removal/Wipe
10% is Bringing Cards Back
10% is Brion Fodder and Fetch cards
10% is Double Damage and Powerful Flyers
Your comments and suggestions are greatly appreciated. That being said, I will probably not be able to afford the more expensive cards Land Tax, Smothering Tithe, Lifeline, Smuggler's Share etc. that are not already in this deck. However - It's still fun to check them out! If you like it, up vote!
With this revision, I've cut many of the fancier, slower dual lands to opt for faster basic lands. I've also added Weathered Wayfarer.
I've made some recent changes to this deck, hopefully to address that mid game I am struggling with tempo, as well as running out of mana to cast the creature or steal spell and have enough to activate Brion's ability. Some cards like Deathrender and Thornbite Staff have been removed (even though they were good in concept) to add more playability.
Fiery Emancipation gives me triple damage. Calamity Bearer works specifically to Brion's sac ability. Angrath's Marauders, Gisela, Blade of Goldnight, Gratuitous Violence all make the damage I do twice as effective.
When creatures I steal die, Stalking Vengeance beefs them. When I summon large creatures into play Warstorm Surge deals damage to my opponent, and when I sac those, Stalking Vengeance hits them on the way out.
Malignus, Serra Avatar, and Soul of Eternity all act as giant bombs to throw at the opponent.
Hofri Ghostforge allows for me to steal an opponents creature, fling it at them with brion, and then keep a spirit copy of that creature.
Magus of the Wheel and Reforge the Soul provide the opportunity to get a fresh hand at my whim. Humble Defector is an easy and fun, card that helps me forge alliances with other players in multiplayer while getting me TWO extra cards per turn.
Skullclamp works perfect with the sacrifice ability and is easy to cast.
Well of Lost Dreams is insane when played late game for Brion's lifelink ability and can be fetched with Hoarding Dragon or Open the Armory Sin Prodder gives me a potential extra card per turn, or the chance for an opponent to take damage to the face... and then I can pull it out of my graveyard later with my other cards! Basically a win/win. Mangara, the Diplomat and Mila, Crafty Companion Flip serve to deter attacks and draw.
Hoarding Dragon serves as a flyer, a sacrifice, and can grab any rocks, Skullclamp, or Well of Lost Dreams.
Open the Armory helps grab Skullclamp, Well of Lost Dreams, or Gift of Immortality.
Recruiter of the Guard is specifically to get Bazaar Trader for the huge advantage of keeping my opponents things, but can also grab Duergar Hedge-Mage for removal or Sin Prodder (amongst a few others). Weathered Wayfarer can grab any land, such as Buried Ruin or Arcane Lighthouse.
Archon of Justice is quite powerful in this deck, as it allows for a flying creature, then a source to sac, and remove a card permanently.
Angel of Serenity gives me the option of 3 recursion or 3 removal.
Duergar Hedge-Mage can be played and replayed in this deck for knocking off annoying enchantments or mana rocks.
Magus of the Disk is one of the board wipes.
Grasp of Fate, Oblivion Ring, and Banishing Light all allow for really flexible removal. Same for Quarantine Field except allows for extra targets for more mana. Chained to the Rocks works the same, but only for creatures. Angel of Sanctions works similarly, but is a creature. Ryusei, the Falling Star really just acts as weenie removal and a sac source from a flyer.
Bringing them Back (and sometimes keep it!):
Adarkar Valkyrie Sac an opponents creature, then get it permanently!
Bazaar Trader Take it with a steal and keep it!
Angelic Renewal Sac my own creature, get it back! Gift of Immortality Sac my own creature, get it back... again, and again!
Emeria Shepherd play a land, get a card! Play a Plains, get a creature to sac!
Mistmoon Griffin Flys, defends, and sac-able, then get back a creature from the graveyard!
Squee's Embrace fun and easy to play, and retrievable with Tragic Poet.
Tragic Poet, a low mana cost creature to get any enchantment in my deck back for any reason. Fun with Squee's Embrace, Angelic Renewal, etc. Returned Pastcaller a flyer that lets me grab a Threaten or Breath of Life. Angel of Serenity gives me the option of 3 recursion or 3 removal.
Stealing their Creatures:
Captivating Crew steals every turn! No wasted card space here, just a reusable sorcery.
Conquering Manticore powerful flyer, that steals!
Zealous Conscripts You can steal anything! Anything! Lands? Mine. Artifacts? Mine. Works great with Bazaar Trader.
Act of Treason, Portent of Betrayal, and Threaten are all basic steal spells.
Malevolent Whispers, Mark of Mutiny, and Traitorous Instinct all give me steal with buffs for Flinging.
Harness by Force allows for more than one thing to be taken if the extra cost is paid!
2 years ago
Myriad Landscape is good in the land slot to help you ramp
Ignite the Future is a newer card I've grown to like since it does an impulse draw effect for three and in the late game it will let you cast some additional cards.
2 years ago
- Mark of Asylum
- Duergar Hedge-Mage
- Warleader's Helix
- Blaze Commando
- Destructive Force
- Experimental Frenzy
- Soul-Scar Mage
- Jaya's Immolating Inferno
- Decree of Annihilation
2 years ago
One note- I do not recommend you run Boros Locket or Boros Cluestone as they only give you one mana and cost three. Typically Manalith with upside isn't very good. If you're going to replace the 4-cmc mana rocks make sure you replace them with good ones. As overrated as 2-cmc mana rocks are, it's indisputable that they are more efficient than 3-cmc mana rocks that only tap for one mana.
2 years ago
Oh wow, thanks so much for providing these details jakeyuki12! This is a lot of food-for-thought so thanks for that. You hit the nail on the head for Heliod, God of the Sun, I am going to take him out for a Selesyna build I am working on. Commander Eesha is a total pet card haha. I used to run a soldier tribal deck back around Odyssey block and used Eesha to great effect. I used the bones of that deck to make this one, so there are definitely some leftovers in here. This was one of my first Commander decks so I am glad it is getting some fine-tuning to keep up with my meta. I sat down and took a look at what cards I had available to make some swaps and came up with:
I am going to playtest this in some games tonight to see how it goes and adjust from there. I think next steps for me is to look at adding in additional card draw (I'm thinking I need to a Skullclamp to start). Thanks again for taking the time and for the help, it means a lot.
2 years ago
Came by this deck while looking for budget ideas for my own Gwyn deck.
I'd say, leave the deck be if it's already doing alright in your meta and you're having fun with it. There are some things that stand out to me though:
You don't have boardwipes in your deck. These will help a lot in surviving the first 7 turns of the game, something you say you have issues with. Mythos of Snapdax, Divine Reckoning and Single Combat are my suggestions. At the bare minimum, get four boardwipes. You can cut some of your creatures for these. Don't forget about single target removal either, I put some in the suggestions below.
Looking at your mana curve: it's quite low, which is a good thing. This means you can cut down on some of the basic lands and go from 40 to something like 36/37. If you can, replace them with more signets or talismans, but cards like Boros Cluestone, Commander's Sphere and Darksteel Ingot are fine too. Try to go for eight mana sources which are not lands.
When selecting creatures to cut to make room for other cards, decide which cards will have an impact when you play them and which won't. As you play the deck, you'll learn more about cards which work and which don't (that's the fun of deckbuilding). I suspect Rimrock Knight won't have much of an impact (You'd rather have another equipment instead), Crashing Drawbridge can be replaced with an equipment which gives haste. In my own Gwyn deck I got rid of Bloodcrazed Paladin because I held on to it instead of playing it. Ardenvale Tactician doesn't look like it'll do much either. I think you'll be fine with somewhere around 25 creatures to make room for more equipment and removal.
You can ditch a card like Rowan, Fearless Sparkmage as well, you can replace the +1 ability with equipment. Don't play the planeswalker for the ult, as your opponents have four whole turn cycles to find an answer for it.
I've listed some more (budget) suggestions below, you'll figure it out: Evolving Wilds
Inquisitor's Flail (use only with first strike/double strike or when you have a way to make your creature indestructible)
Glaring Spotlight (I think it might be a good card as a finisher, but haven't won a game with it yet)
2 years ago
What are your thoughts about
- Boros Keyrune, Boros Cluestone and Boros Locket? Are they worthy budget replacements for the more expensive mana rocks?
- is Coveted Jewel good in a attack friendly deck like this?
- Destructive Urge? I saw it in another list and am curious about your experience
- Anya, Merciless Angel? Does not do much except being a pain to remove. Is it worth it?
Have you tried the Heavenly Blademaster?
How important are haste or double strike enablers in the deck?