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|Commander Anthology 2018 (CM2)||Common|
|Commander 2015 (C15)||Common|
|Dragon's Maze (DGM)||Common|
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Boros Cluestone occurrence in decks from the last year
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Boros Cluestone Discussion
1 month ago
Came by this deck while looking for budget ideas for my own Gwyn deck.
I'd say, leave the deck be if it's already doing alright in your meta and you're having fun with it. There are some things that stand out to me though:
You don't have boardwipes in your deck. These will help a lot in surviving the first 7 turns of the game, something you say you have issues with. Mythos of Snapdax, Divine Reckoning and Single Combat are my suggestions. At the bare minimum, get four boardwipes. You can cut some of your creatures for these. Don't forget about single target removal either, I put some in the suggestions below.
Looking at your mana curve: it's quite low, which is a good thing. This means you can cut down on some of the basic lands and go from 40 to something like 36/37. If you can, replace them with more signets or talismans, but cards like Boros Cluestone, Commander's Sphere and Darksteel Ingot are fine too. Try to go for eight mana sources which are not lands.
When selecting creatures to cut to make room for other cards, decide which cards will have an impact when you play them and which won't. As you play the deck, you'll learn more about cards which work and which don't (that's the fun of deckbuilding). I suspect Rimrock Knight won't have much of an impact (You'd rather have another equipment instead), Crashing Drawbridge can be replaced with an equipment which gives haste. In my own Gwyn deck I got rid of Bloodcrazed Paladin because I held on to it instead of playing it. Ardenvale Tactician doesn't look like it'll do much either. I think you'll be fine with somewhere around 25 creatures to make room for more equipment and removal.
You can ditch a card like Rowan, Fearless Sparkmage as well, you can replace the +1 ability with equipment. Don't play the planeswalker for the ult, as your opponents have four whole turn cycles to find an answer for it.
I've listed some more (budget) suggestions below, you'll figure it out: Evolving Wilds
Inquisitor's Flail (use only with first strike/double strike or when you have a way to make your creature indestructible)
Glaring Spotlight (I think it might be a good card as a finisher, but haven't won a game with it yet)
4 months ago
What are your thoughts about
- Boros Keyrune, Boros Cluestone and Boros Locket? Are they worthy budget replacements for the more expensive mana rocks?
- is Coveted Jewel good in a attack friendly deck like this?
- Destructive Urge? I saw it in another list and am curious about your experience
- Anya, Merciless Angel? Does not do much except being a pain to remove. Is it worth it?
Have you tried the Heavenly Blademaster?
How important are haste or double strike enablers in the deck?
6 months ago
First, I'd run a bit more aggressive removal package.
- Swords to Plowshares, Path to Exile, and Winds of Abandon are all fantastic cards. All three are strong removal in either the early or late game, with the final one becoming an absolutely devastating sweeper. I'd get rid of Crib Swap and Pacifism.
- If she is having a problem with noncreature permanents and needs some removal that can deal with them, Generous Gift and Chaos Warp are generally better than Banishing Light.
- Blasphemous Act is a great way to reset the board while leaving mana open to cast a new threat.
Personally, I'd lean into a group slug theme--burn everyone equally, with the hope of buffing Anya. She's already running Manabarbs, which is a great option. Burning Earth is another great option. Spellshock can be quite powerful as well in some metas, providing everyone else is casting more spells per turn than she is (she has some large angels, so that's not infeasible).
Or, if she does not want to go a hyper-aggressive group-burn route, Red and White have some great ways to slow down the game. Stranglehold and Aven Mindcensor take away a lot of other deck's primary advantages. Blood Moon can be a nightmare to play around considering how common nonbasics are in EDH. Rest in Peace is an all-around good card and can even take out players if you combo it with Helm of Obedience.
Smothering Tithe is a great option for Ramp, something Boros is lacking and this deck in particular really wants.
11 months ago
I'm thinking you'll want to maximize on artifacts that are sacrificed in order to reap great benefit.
If you want access to some great ramp for you deck, Tooth of Ramos and Heart of Ramos will allow you to get 2 mana from them. After they are sacrificed, if Gerrard dies you get them back for free. Now I'm not sure on the technicality / legality of it, but I believe Horn of Ramos , Skull of Ramos and Eye of Ramos can also be used in your deck. Their errata text contains the mana symbols, but the physical cards do not; They list the color by name, not by identification. So I believe they are legal in all decks, regardless of colors.
- Arcbound Ravager can go full beast mode
- Burnished Hart is an obvious must
- Boros Cluestone card advantage
- Boros Locket more card advantage
- Cataclysmic Gearhulk is a recurring boardwipe
- Dreamstone Hedron gives you massive card advantage
- Glaring Spotlight amazing finisher
- Hedron Archive more card advantage
- Hope of Ghirapur lock on a single player
- Idol of Oblivion finisher
- Krark-Clan Ironworks explosive turns
- Kuldotha Forgemaster tutors
- Life Chisel life
- Lotus Bloom ramp
- Lotus Petal more ramp
- Metalwork Colossus free cast
- Mind Stone card advantage
- Mindslaver and I can not stress this enough, Mindslaver
- Mishra's Bauble card advantage
- Phyrexian Dreadnought bomb and you get back your artifact creatures
- Ratchet Bomb disgusting one-sided removal if you put 2 - 3 charge counters on it to blow up stones
- Universal Solvent awesome spot removal
- Wayfarer's Bauble ramp and deck filtering
Probably a few I missed but there you go.
1 year ago
Commenting here rather than on your page.
I don't mean to sound so overbearingly critical, but your deck is overall lacking in substantial board presence. Oathbreaker is a format in which you want to protect your Planeswalker at all viable costs. You have four creatures. That does not make for a very strong base. I'm going to rip into this deck, but I am also going to offer you suggestions on how to greatly improve upon it :) I hope that you don't take offense to anything I am saying, but I felt like I can do you some good here.
Next, I notice that a lot of your lands are either bounce lands or lands in which you can sacrifice them to get an additional mana for that turn. I am concerned with this style of play, because the bounce lands sort of equal out to the same amount of mana for the turn, and in some cases don't even move you ahead. Sacrifice the lands for extra mana sets you back. Allow me to explain:
- T3: You have two lands out. You tap both to add to your pool, then play Boros Garrison . The rest of the turn doesn't matter, we are merely focusing on land presence and mana potential.
- T4: You replay the land you just bounced last turn. Now you have a total of three lands that can produce a total of 4 mana.
The issue here is that you set yourself back on tempo on T3 to become caught up on T4. Rather than producing 3 mana on T3, you only produced 2; And for your efforts on T3, you are no better off on T4 than if you had just played a basic land.
Dormant Volcano and Karoo are even worse, because you have 16 of your 26 lands that contain specific subtypes, each one only being represented on 10 Plains and 8 Mountains. So if you have a Dormant Volcano in your hand but you don't have any lands with Mountain as their subtype, you literally can not play it. Even worse, it has to be an untapped land you return AND it still enters the battlefield tapped. So not only do you lose a land, you don't even get the mana from it and it's highly more restrictive than Boros Garrison .
Additionally, Temple of the False God literally does you no good if you get it out before you have five total lands. Shrine of the Forsaken Gods is better absolutely all around because at least it produces you something.
Now we need to discuss your "pay-to-play" lands; Crystal Vein , Dwarven Ruins & Ruins of Trokair . The issue here is that you may have immediate access to ramp, but you trade that for immediate downfall as you slip farther and farther behind because you no longer have lands on the battlefield. These cards should never go in any deck that doesn't have some means to return them, such as Crucible of Worlds / Ramunap Excavator or Wrenn and Six .
Dwarven Ruins and Ruins of Trokair for Heart of Ramos and Tooth of Ramos . This is because on T3 you can play your 3rd land and play an artifact to ramp with. On T4 when you play your fourth land, you now have 5 mana available and therefore are in ramp mode. You can also sac the artifact to generate another mana if need be, and it won't hurt your land base. These are under appreciated artifacts, and to be honest you don't need 26 lands in a 58 card deck. Yes, 58. Ajani and Mudhole are outside of your library.
Dormant Volcano and Karoo for Boros Signet and Boros Cluestone . Signet gets you two mana for the cost of one (Tapping two permanents equals out to 1 mana per permanent, but now you get one of each color) and Cluestone gets you one of any color, but also gives you draw options if you need it later on.
This sets you down to 22 lands, which in all of my playing of Oathrbeaker is ideal. This also increases your stones up from 4 into ~6. We will be working on this in a moment.
I get it, you want to blow up lands so your opponent can't play the game. But do you need 10 cards that do that? 11 with Ajani?
Cut out the following, for their listed reasons:
As mentioned before, you want more artifacts that produce mana. You currently have the following:
Now we still have four card slots open from before. We are sitting now at a total of six stones. We want eight. We will use two slots to add the following:
We now have 22 lands and 8 stones. 30 mana producing cards in a 58 card deck. This means you will SERIOUSLY ramp in Boros.
- Faithless Looting : Because it can be played twice, due to Flashback
- Dawn of Hope : Another 2 CMC permanent that can be used in conjunction with Ajani Vengeant 's -2 for card draw on non-specific colors of mana. Then you can also use it to create tokens with self-fulfilling conditions since they have lifelink. This means you don't have to rely on Ajani going down, and you can still progress the boardstate.
As for a win condition outside of Form of the Dragon , there is also Martial Coup . Since you are snuffing out all of your opponent's lands anyway, as well as their creatures, why not create a literal army of tokens that now stand unopposed?
You may also want to consider replacing Mudhole with something more viable. Perhaps Lightning Helix ? It burns and gets you life. Acts as another win condition, makes it harder for your opponent to win in the process as your life totals grow farther and farther apart, and plays nicely with the aforementioned Dawn of Hope .
This took me like 40 minutes, so I hope it helps.
1 year ago
Ramp: Boros Cluestone , Boros Keyrune , Boros Locket , Boros Signet , Sol Ring , Fire Diamond , Marble Diamond , Commander's Sphere , Wayfarer's Bauble , Mind Stone , Corrupted Grafstone , Star Compass , Fellwar Stone , Coldsteel Heart , Worn Powerstone , Prismatic Lens , Burnished Hart , Solemn Simulacrum
1 year ago
Here ya go, Derrick,
Where is Gamble
Ramp or extra mana
Fellwar Stone , Fire Diamond , Marble Diamond , MindStone, Sword of the Animist , Thought Vessel , Hardened Berserker , Treasonous Ogre , Neheb, the Eternal , Neheb, Dreadhorde Champion Desperate Ritual , Pyretic Ritual , Seething Song ,
Target spells that are dope
Coordinated Assault , Enrage , Otherworldly Outburst is cool and you can loop it if the creature you buff dies making a token, Samut's Sprint , Titan's Strength , Accelerate , Aleatory , Chaotic Strike , Stun , Niveous Wisps , Carom , Formation gives banding which is spicy, Spiritualize , Stave Off , Bathe in Light , Feat of Resistance , Chaos Warp target tokens to get permanets from your deck for free, and is good removal.
Heroic/Prowess Creatures cuz value
these are some cards I think you should look at, don't need all and some might not fit exactly but if you like them then put them in. Cut some lands you can go down to 34 if you add in more artifacts, which go great with paradox engine.
Cards I think you should replace: Emerge Unscathed rebound fucks with your commander it exiles them not letting you put them back into your hand; Aurelia's Fury really expensive to get any good use out of it, or if you want protection during your turns run Grand Abolisher or Silence ; Expose Evil is too slow of a draw engine Mentor of the Meek with the tokens you make is better for drawing; Burnished Hart and Solemn Simulacrum are meh, better to go with artifact ramp that can feed the paradox plan, plus artifact ramp is cheaper and faster; speaking of artifacts Boros Cluestone and Boros Keyrune are good flavor options but aren't that good as other artifacts; Inferno Titan and Sun Titan are good creatures but don't fit into the game plan as well better to put things that help with the gameplan.
1 year ago
Recommended Cards to Add
This of course does not take into accountmana curve considerations or anything similar. It is merely cards to consider
Captivating Crew - Repeated steal effect to have ammunition to throw at people
Evra, Halcyon Witness - Large creature that can be as big as your lifetotal when thrown if wanted.
Serra Avatar - Large creature that is as big as your life total to potentially one shot someone and double your lifetotal
Zealous Conscripts - Can steal an opposing creature to throw, opposing walker to ult or any other problematic permenent. Also incidentaly goes infinite with Kiki Jiki.
Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker - Can tap to make copies of your big creatures to throw. Goes infinite with Zealous conscripts.
Malignus - Large creature that scales with life total of opponent
Molten Primordial - Mass threaten on a stick
Feldon of the Third Path - makes copies of your already dead creatures
Emeria Shepherd - Recursion that can also be reanimation
Hoarding Dragon - A way to search out our game winning artifacts. Easy enough to throw at someone to get our artifact.
Karmic Guide - Reanimation
Neheb, the Eternal - lots of mana if you throw things pre combat
Yosei, the Morning Star - Very good thing to be able to recur. Can lock people out of the game with enough setup.
War Elemental - Scales as we throw things
Bloodshot Cyclops - Backup Brion?
Bearer of the Heavens - Dont make me do this!
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight - Double our damage, half theirs? Yes please
The usual goes here of making sure that we have interaction for people trying to stop us or making sure we can stop people. Though of specific mention
Faith's Reward - Recover from a wrath or just rebuy a couple of good creatures after a combat and throw.
Orim's Thunder - Hadn't actually seen this before but it seems to be a good potential 2 for 1 while also being a good answer to artifacts and enchantments.
Here there are a lot of potential threaten effects that i could recommend. But we know that we need them so i won't list them all. Other effects we could need do include one or two wraths as even though we are the creature deck, sometimes they just have more or better creatures. However other things to note.
Open the Armory - Tutors equipment or Auras.
Chandra's Ignition - Targetting some of our big creatures might just end the game with this.
Insurrection - You usually just win if this resolves on a decent board state.
Other than that, the fun things include
Phyrexian Processor - Yeh this card is rather good. Just Make big tokens and start throwing them
Well of Lost Dreams - With the triggers from Brion we should be able to restock our hand quite easily with this
Illusionist's Bracers - Copy the fling. As sacrificing a creature is part of the cost it will effectively be two triggers from flinging the same creature.
Thornbite Staff - Untaps brion when a creature dies. This includes sacrificing the creature to brion, so effectively tapping him causes him to untap....
Thousand-Year Elixir - Gives Brion haste and an untap.
Aetherflux Reservoir - 50cal Sniper Rifle to the face anyone?
Damage doublers can be recommended but i usually avoid the symettrical ones from personal preference. One or two effects that give Haste might be good too. Other effects however
Flameshadow Conjuring - Copy up our faties for good ETB triggers, effective haste or extra copies to throw with Brion.
Sigil of the New Dawn - Recur everything!
Marshal's Anthem - Decent mass resurrect in white. Though a little mana intensive
Angelic Renewal - One time use recursion of a creature
Goblin Bombardment - Backup sacrifice effects for all our threatens. WE don't want to have to give their toys back do we?