Phyrexian Rebirth

Sorcery

Destroy all creatures, then create an X/X colourless Horror artifact creature token, where X is the number of creatures destroyed this way.

Discussion (51)

TCK_Green on mono white indestructeble plays

5 days ago

Avacyn out of the Helavault, backed by other angels and with a plan to destroy the world? Sounds like a fun deck! :D you've asked to keep it budget, so most of the suggestions below should cost <$1 each. I've split my advice into sections, hopefully that'll help break it down into more bite-size chunks.

CHOOSE YOUR BATTLEFIELD

It felt like you had lots of fun cards in the deck, but it's not entirely clear how all of them fit in - at the moment it feels like you're trying to do a bit of everything. It might be worth (A) choosing what direction you want to take the deck (e.g. lifegain / big angels / destroy the world), (B) what your win-con and win-con cards are going to be for A, and (C) what cards would feel awesome to draw when you're winning / terrible to draw on an empty board. Hopefully those three questions will help shape what cards you choose to add and remove :) I decided to go human-angel tribal for one of my first decks that I built (Brisela, the confused angel), and whilst it wasn't my best deck (and is definitely in need of an update), you'll notice that there aren't (m)any creatures that aren't humans or angels. (I've also build a 'destroy the world'-style Oathbreaker deck, which does funky things with boardwipes, Dingus Staff/Dingus Egg and Second Sunrise!)

Well, with a slight plan of where you want the deck to go, let's think about some things you might want to consider. I've tried to keep the advice below quite general - if you're struggling to know what to remove, then do let me know and I'm happy to offer specific suggestions.

PROTECT THE GENERAL!

I really like how you've got 'fair' "destroy all" board wipes in there, which become one-sided when Avaycn is around. However, do be careful if someone exiles Avacyn in response to your Armageddon (or similar) - you really don't want to be on the receiving end of your own wipe! Avacyn is great, but she is vulnerable to pesky cards like Swords to Plowshares and Path to Exile that keep appearing in EDH. You might want to add some cards that give Avacyn hexproof or protection - I like the Mirror Shield and Flicker of Fate in the deck, but that's very little Avacyn 'protection' for 99 cards. Some suggestions here are artifacts like Whispersilk Cloak and Swiftfoot Boots. (Lightning Greaves is the best of these, but is a little more expensive - definitely a commander staple, so do pick one up at some point!). Creatures that give protection are also great, and those have the added bonus of providing you some early-game safety, especially those with repeatable protection. I'd suggest adding Devoted Caretaker to the deck, and either Benevolent Bodyguard or Alseid of Life's Bounty (with plans to upgrade to everyone's favourite Mother of Runes - another commander staple! - and Giver of Runes if you're happy to spend a little more).

Now that Avacyn's bodyguards are sorted, let's have a think of how we can get her out as fast as (reasonably) possible.

RISE AND SHINE, ANGELS

Since you have got a lot of high CMC creatures, I'd be tempted to chuck some more mana rocks in there - Worn Powerstone and Hedron Archive are good places to start - as well as card that reduce the cost of your high-end cards - Oketra's Monument is especially great here since it also gives you extra creatures to block with, Pearl Medallion is also good if you can stretch the budget. (I'd personally definitely remove Lotus Petal - it doesn't do a huge amount for you, and it takes up a slot that could be used by a repeatable mana rock.) Rocks/reducers will allow you to get more angels out quicker, meaning that you're more likely to have a board presence in the midgame - and rescue Avacyn from the Helavault as early as possible!

The creatures you have could do with some tweaking - I think it might be worth trimming your choices, but how you want to do that will depend on what 'theme' you want to have.

MAYDAY MAYDAY, WE'RE OUT OF AMMO!

The most important resource in MtG are cards. You use cards to get mana and play creatures that ultimately win you the game - if you don't have any cards then it's very hard to win games. I don't currently see much in the way of card draw in your deck, so I imagine you'd be top-decking quite often with this, hoping to get the card you really need from the top. (There are also a couple more lands than usual - standard EDH decks run 40 lands - meaning that you're a little more likely to have a 'dead draw' than you would otherwise be.)

Unfortunately we're in white so what we have is card advantage instead of card draw, but do have a think about what cards you could add that might help - Mentor of the Meek is a favourite of mine, but you need to have enough low-power creatures to make it work (or cards that create small tokens - like Oketra's Monument!). If you have a bit of budget then an Endless Atlas is a safe staple for EDH mono-colour decks, and Well of Lost Dreams is really nifty in a lifegain deck :) also, cards that fetch to the battlefield effectively count as card draw, so I'll also allow cards like Myriad Landscape, Reya Dawnbringer, and Brought Back (which can even function as a ramp card if you manage to use it on lands like Myriad Landscape).

WATCH THE WORLD BURN

I heard you like board wipes? End Hostilities is cheap, but if you want to go OG then the purest wipe is Wrath of God, though it's younger brother Day of Judgment) is a lot cheaper. Fumigate, Rout, Martial Coup, Phyrexian Rebirth and Nevinyrral's Disk also fit in that slot. Finally, if you can make it fit then I'd perhaps look at adding Worldslayer. It's a lot of mana to equip, but once it's on Avacyn there's no way anyone else is coming back from that!

Do remember that all of the above are just suggestions, let me know if you have any questions, good luck, and remember - once all the dust settles and the other players die, "Only one may stand!"

slashdotdash on Ramos The Sparkle Dragon

1 week ago

Hi there West,

As a player who specializes in WUBRG big mana, I'd like to add a few suggestions.

Board Wipes

First off, let's look at a robust boardwipe package. I recommend 3 to 6 Sweepers total for a big, slower deck like this.

Disclaimer - while boardwipes can be a big feel bad for some, they are often extremely helpful to prevent slower decks from getting #WREKT by faster, lighter decks. Just make sure your playgroup is okay with you leaning into a slower playstyle that uses boardwipes to keep the nonsense at bay (this will really depend on your meta). Keep in mind boardwipes also help you get in for Voltron damage, assuming you sequence your plays correctly.

• Crux of Fate
• Ixidron: Looks strange, acts stranger. This thing is in my top 5 for favorite creatures, as it deals a crippling blow to most enemy decks.
• Cataclysmic Gearhulk: Thins the board without killing your best things. Beware, the opponent will still have stuff, but you're betting that Ramos can take 'em.
• Sublime Exhalation
• Day of Judgment
• Wrath of God
• Phyrexian Rebirth: If your deck is ramping enough (I think your deck can probably do it) then this spell is bananas.
• Flood of Tears: It is easy to overlook the second sentence...
• Time Wipe: A bit meh with Ramos himself, but keep in mind you can utilize this before Ramos even comes out to save your best creature while clearing the way for big mana spells.
• Phyrexian Scriptures: DANGER!!! This one is so slow that it can straight-up get you killed. It might be okay with Ramos, but it could also aggro everybody. I only include it because it synergizes a little bit with Ramos.

Card Draw

So one reason your deck might be "sputtering", as you put it, is simply the lack of Card Draw. With about 12 Card Draw sources you should be more able to keep yourself going and avoid sputtering.

Generically good card draw happens to be mostly black. Don't worry about life loss here, especially if you do end up adding board wipes.

• Syphon Mind
• Painful Truths
• Read the Bones
• Ambition's Cost
• Ancient Craving
• Underworld Connections
• Harmonize
• Urban Evolution
• Recurring Insight
• Phyrexian Arena
• Kumena's Awakening

Removal

Your removal package is one of the strong things I see here. My only comment is that Vindicate looks good but its sorcery speed, so a Beast Within or Generous Gift is better in my opinion. Nice job on this section though :D

It's a Trap!!!

Alright, so I'd like to help you identify the "trap" cards. My playgroup calls a card a trap if it looks good in the deck in theory but is actually quite bad in practice.

I strongly recommend against Morophon, the Boundless because you will be getting at best one or two creatures from him. I don't believe your deck is (or should be) tribal enough to take advantage of him.

Ponder and Preordain are unlikely to do as much work as real card draw spells, at least from what I gather skimming over your list. Your deck is going to be naturally slower (and that's fine if you have enough Removal and Sweepers to keep yourself alive) so don't sweat cutting the 1-drops for card draw spells. I would instantly run Painful Truths and Read the Bones in place of these.

Voltron: This is just an opinion, but your Voltron section looks too big. I think the best thing about Ramos as a Voltron commander is his ability to naturally acquire a threatening amount of power as a side effect of you playing a really good Rainbow deck! Lean into that. I know it feels bad to cut some of the artifacts, but you may find it better to have other threats or support for your threats, instead of relying on your commander (who is already a bit of a priority target if I'm being honest). Now granted I am not sure that you've got too much Voltron stuff, but my instincts tell me to avoid committing too much to Voltron. I have seen it end terribly many times and this deck has the luxury of Incidental Voltron, so I would take advantage of what your commander is already doing.

Also, just a general trap for big mana decks is choosing too many "Payload" cards (like Maelstrom Wanderer, Nicol Bolas, etc) while not including enough support for them. I don't think you've got an issue with that, but stay vigliant - you're the only one who can stop you from going overboard.

Other Quick Additions

Kessig Wolf Run: Supports the Voltron, lets you sink that excess mana, and only takes a land slot to boot! Simply a great card for the Voltron portion of your strategy.

Wrap Up

Overall, this is an interesting deck design though I do think it could benefit from a more focused game plan.

Don't get me wrong, this is good stuff - I think you've created a nice first version. Please don't take my criticism of your card choices personally, these are after all just my opinions and I am very passionate about making WUBRG work well. That doesn't mean I know best, though I'm trying to share what tips I can on the topic. At the end of the day choose the cards you want, but please do add more draw spells ;)

Cool deck and nice first draft.

Cheers and have fun :D

slashdotdash on Azor's Word of the Day Calendar

1 week ago

Really cool word-of-the-day idea!

The deck looks a bit top-heavy, though I understand that tends to happen when you go Sphinx Tribal ;)

Depending on the speed of your meta, I would consider adding a couple more board wipes since that your good creatures are deployed so late in the game. Would help you stave off the nonsense until you're ready to send in the air force.

Some recommendations include:

Sublime Exhalation

Time Wipe

Day of Judgment

Wrath of God

Flood of Tears

Crush of Tentacles

Devastation Tide

Phyrexian Rebirth

Hour of Revelation

Also an important note, Magus of the Moat was just reprinted, in case you are so inclined...

Good luck :)

BLOODGUILT on Rhys's The redeemed

2 weeks ago

Jbot9 Yeah i get it. i used to be the same way. The deck you have is already fairly strong. To be more competitive would be adding disruption and control. Unless your play group likes to build huge ridiculous board stats and just swing in. Then its big spells and many ramp. For control.... there's a lot in Green and white that is very good. Path to Exile Teferi's Protection Song of the Dryads and so much more. I did come across one card though that i think would be great in your deck Phyrexian Rebirth. It is a board wipe that gives you a massive creature that you can make copies of. Also, you might consider Marwyn, the Nurturer since your commander is mana hungry and creates elves. The last thing i found that would be just kinda sneaky to play is Harmonious Archon most of your creatures are 1/1s so this will make them 3/3s. The issue would be it'll weaken any token already stronger than 3/3 and could help your opponents. Anyway, last 2 cents i've got. Have fun.

Blackheart426 on All Systems Online.

3 weeks ago

This looks like one fun deck! For your consideration, you may want to take a look at Phyrexian Rebirth and Martyr's Bond as additional removal. Blinding Light can open up the field for a big swing, and if you have True Conviction on the field, it's really going to hurt. Captain's Claws might be good sideboard card to make more tokens. Keep up the great work!

DoctorAwker on Trostani, Selesnya's Voice

1 month ago

I would definitely suggest adding in Mimic Vat. It's incredibly flexible, and you can Populate the token and keep that copy. The tokens from Desolation Twin and Phyrexian Processor can be hilarious with Trostani. Vitu-Ghazi Guildmage can Populate multiple times so I'd try to find a space for it. And Phyrexian Rebirth is a great wrath for this deck.

I agree with the first post regarding Explosive Vegetation. I'd personally run Rampant Growth, but if not I'd recommend swapping it for Circuitous Route since it can also find the guildgate, or Skyshroud Claim since you get those lands untapped and it can find duals (in which case I'd also add in Scattered Groves and Temple Garden if possible).

I'd be remiss if I didn't mention the big token doublers: Anointed Procession, Parallel Lives, Doubling Season, and Rhys the Redeemed. But since this is a deck for someone else who's new to the game I can understand why you might not want to include those. But they're always worth mentioning for anything that churns out tokens.

I hope some of that helps : )

morgud on Elusive Mono-White

1 month ago

Nice suggestions but without 12 instants I find myself dead drawing Isochron Scepters. I wouldn't mainboard Winds of Abandon since it's too situational and more expensive CMC than Path to Exile while cheaper sideboard board wipe options exist (like Wrath of God or Phyrexian Rebirth).

edengstrom1 on Sub $40 Teysa Karlov Help

2 months ago

You seem to have a pretty decent deck built for your budget.

You might want a few more board wipes for aggro decks or go-wide decks. Fumigate, Phyrexian Rebirth and Martial Coup are all pretty budget and will also gain you some life or leave behind a token.

Karmic Guide and Reveillark are good ways to get stuff back from your graveyard and are both relatively inexpensive.