|Commander / EDH||Legal|
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|Masters 25 (A25)||None|
|Commander 2016 (C16)||Uncommon|
|Fate Reforged (FRF)||Uncommon|
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Creature — Human Rogue
: Draw two cards. Target opponent gains control of Humble Defector. Activate this ability only during your turn.
Humble Defector Discussion
3 weeks ago
Oddly enough I was toying with a very similar build. Yours is faster since I skipped the mana accel. I planned Fecundity as an answer vs board wipe. I also added Commune with the Gods , Humble Defector , and Faithless Looting. It's a fun deck idea for sure.
1 month ago
Stingscourger will be eventually cut for something else, haven't decided yet. He is eh. It's cool when he costs 1 mana due to medalion and I have double ETB's through Panharmonichron. Otherwise, eh.
Humble Defector and Starke of Rath have both been useful, humble moreso. Just played a game today where I had Homeward Path out. Even if I didn't I made a deal with the boros player (I run 2 gauntlets to help him and myself) to give it back to me since we both needed card draw.
Regarding Outpost Siege and Light Up the Stage , both seem cool but im worried I might not wanna cast the top card and it would just stay in exile. Thoughts on Stolen Strategy instead? Costs 1 more mana but its each opponent, messes with topdeck tutors (prevalent in my meta).
Smuggler's Copter - Is the looting helpful? Crew 1 seems very easy with Norin.
As for Cloudstone Curio , I know it's a broken card. I will need to playtest it to fully understand how broken it is!
1 month ago
Norin players unite!
Burnished Hart - I've found this to be just too slow and expensive, and just underwhelming and frustrating. Same with Feldon of the Third Path . How have they worked for you? I'm also curious about Stingscourger - i ended up cutting it. By the way, I was underwhelmed by Terrain Generator .
3 months ago
This deck looks like you're not feeding it enough . 4 color decks are tough, especially without the pricier duals. Exotic Orchard , Spectral Searchlight and Chromatic Lantern can all help with that though you'll probably want even more blue sources than that. The Searchlight also plays into the group hug theme.
Humble Defector is another card draw for opponents that will probably get abused right up until it is too late.
4 months ago
Have you considered running Humble Defector ? Humble Defector has a unique interaction with Feldon - if you make a token of Humble Defector and use its ability to draw cards, the token copy won't be sacrificed at the end of the turn since you can't sacrifice permanents you don't control. Not only does Humble Defector give you card advantage - something pretty rare in mono-red - but you can also play politics with your friends! It's a really fun card.
4 months ago
Cards that fit your theme that we will discuss later. Fumble , Hazoret's Favor , Helm of Possession , Humble Defector , Hypnotic Siren , Illusory Gains , Kindred Charge , Macabre Mockery , Magus of the Unseen , Marchesa's Smuggler , Mass Mutiny , Mogg Cannon , Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker , Saheeli Rai , Spinal Embrace , Zealous Conscripts , Yahenni, Undying Partisan , Dack Fayden , Aladdin , Breaking / Entering , Beguiler of Wills , Bontu the Glorified , Brutal Hordechief , Angrath, the Flame-Chained .
6 months ago
If you want to bring the deck cost down to fit something else, Mana Cache is a cheap, not-quite-as-good replacement for Mana Flare . I was actually surprised to see Mana Flare in your deck with your $$ target.
I really like Seizan, Perverter of Truth in group hug, but it's $$$.
Mass Hysteria is also one of my favorite group hug cards, but is similar in $$$.
Horn of Plenty is a cheap, common group hug include.
As for what you get remove, I like Humble Defector in 1v1, but not multiplayer. Depends on your meta. I'm not convinced Undying Evil is adding enough value with the rest of your deck. I love curses in group hug, but Curse of Vengeance is probably one you could go without.
7 months ago
Thank you for the upvotes friend :)
I very much enjoyed your Purphy list. Humble Defector for the win!
Humble Defector occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.01%