Creature — Dragon
When Hoarding Dragon enters the battlefield, you may search your library for an artifact card, exile it, then shuffle your library.
When Hoarding Dragon is put into a graveyard from the battlefield, you may put the exiled card into its owner's hand.
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|Commander: Rule 0||Legal|
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Hoarding Dragon Discussion
4 months ago
For artifact recursion, Trash for Treasure is a useful one for cheating out big artifacts from the graveyard, and is a flavor win as you can literally trade your treasure tokens in for trash... err... your other artifacts XD Also, Goblin Welder is another classic one that can do the same thing. Trading Post is another flexible option, as I can see your deck being able to use most of the options. Though, I'll admit, I usually use these cards to cheat into play big artifact creatures that I've dumped into the graveyard, so you might want to consider this as a side option.
In terms of red artifact tutors, it's a little dicy, as most of the decent options use either blue or black. Inventors' Fair could work once you get all the needed artifacts on board. Some creature options also exist (if you're just looking to make a weird "illegal" fun deck.) Treasure Mage Trophy Mage Tribute Mage and Trinket Mage can fetch out needed artifacts, as well as having limited synergy with Alesha, Who Smiles at Death . Though looking at your current list, I don't see too many bomb cards that would be useful with recuring your artifacts. Maybe look into adding something like Solemn Simulacrum or Golos, Tireless Pilgrim ? In red you have things like Gamble , Hoarding Dragon and Goblin Engineer .
Hmmm... Sliver decks, while fun to pilot, either are dealt with early and fizzle out, or they end up overwhelming if you don't keep their creatures in check. If you're leaning more into the 5 color splashability casual deck, Rakdos Charm is a good catch-all card that deals with a lot of strategies. Even a well timed Blasphemous Act can slow them down. In your current build, I see you do run some interaction, but I think you'll find there are some more consistent better options out there!
5 months ago
sorry for the spam
in my alti deck Ogre Battledriver , Brion Stoutarm , & Serra Avatar is my win con
i know this sounds like alot but with Maskwood Nexus its easy to fetch and loop
and cards like Worldly Tutor , Hoarding Dragon , Protean Hulk
to keep a long post short cus im at work and keep getting interrupted while typing
basically the deck just needs 3 eggs and any sac outlet to go off
6 months ago
and first off: i updated the description a bit, so some things i didnt mention and i feel might be a concern of yours, are better shown.
I will definitely look for Hoarding Dragon , Shared Summons and i might have an Inventors' Fair lying around. Kuldotha Forgemaster is a card i purposefully did not include, since i think it would scream combo time to loud (he plays it himself a lot).
The thing is i dont want it to be too obvious and too focused on that combo win. I want him to play a few games and eventually stumble upon it. Hoarding Dragon is a nice flying body as well, so it would camouflage nicely as a value creature. Nantuko Elder and buddies also might have a place. Though i want the animated mana rocks to play role still.
Arcane Signet could be added in, i just didnt see the necessity in two coloured decks. But, is a valid suggestion. Chromatic Lantern i dont think i want to get, the list already did cost me a bit both in cards i added from my own collection and money. Also since the commander makes artifacts and the deck is somewhat vulnerable to artifact removal, i like Darksteel Ingot a lot in here.
Another instant artifact removal like Ancient Grudge would be good, i agree.
6 months ago
Your combo is cool but very unlikely. You would want to add a few ways to tutor up the artifacts to get better consistency.
Hoarding Dragon , Kuldotha Forgemaster , Inventors' Fair and Gamble could help.
Shared Summons could get forgemaster and toymaker. Crop Rotation can get inventor's fair.
Also you might consider a few more instants to make scepter more useful if he doesnt happen in to vitalize. Ancient Grudge and Fog seem good.
Also you may want more mana dorks to enable the combo with vitalize scepter. Palladium Myr works as would Fyndhorn Elder , Greenweaver Druid , Nantuko Elder , Whisperer of the Wilds , these are also decent ramp cards in general.
6 months ago
Mortarpod That's actually super funny, considering that I've really only seen Worldgorger Dragon played in high powered games alongside Animate Dead . In terms of removal, Spine of Ish Sah is the first thing that comes to mind as direct removal. Mirage Mirror can become a protection piece depending on what is on the battlefield. Hoarding Dragon can provide an interesting interaction where you get a big flying blocker for whatever is coming at you, and provided it dies in combat, get to tutor an artifact to your hand. My favorite card is Colfenor's Urn . If you have three or more of your big dragons/artifact creatures, you can instantly recover from a boardwipe and will have a massive advantage.
RinceRaven on Kaalia
8 months ago
suggestions right now are to get out all the low-impact 4-5 costed 'big' creatures that sit in your hand as a 1/turn spell even when you have 8 mana available and replace them with stuff that either has an actual impact or that helps big stuff come out faster and better.
in: Angel of Serenity, Kaalia of the Vast, Rakshasa Debaser, Dragon Tempest, Lightning Greaves, Rakdos, Lord of Riots, Angel of Condemnation, Worn Powerstone, Thran Dynamo, Herald of War, literally any land.
1 year ago
Is the creature we are Looping creating mana via treasures or Eldrazi Scions? Dire Fleet Hoarder,Wily Goblin,Carrier Thrall then everytime we loop we are building a stockpile of mana for our future turns.
But we can get more than just value from the creature we are sac'ing oh much much more, how about value from the sac outlet it self? Viscera Seer Start scrying through your deck for your combo pieces ThermopodAshnod's Altar Help you generate more mana for more cards to be cast from hand for multiple card loops Carrion Feeder Keep adding +1/+1's to make a threat that needs to be dealt with before it spirals out of control Spawning Pit why not add more tokens to this to create a potential army of 2/2's that can snap into existence at instant speed? Greater Gargadon How about ticking down a clock to a 9/7 coming to smash your enemies into small digestible pieces?
You think we are done with what value we can get from Looping? not even close, what about other effects that occur when they see cards getting sac'd for greater good of value? Zulaport Cutthroat,Falkenrath Noble,Syr Konrad, the Grim This will start putting pressure on opponent's life totals whenever you sac a creature, or cast in the case of Bontu's and special mention to Syr Konrad as he also does damage when they go back to hand from your yard...oooh that value.
You want card draw? we got it,now its not as clean as blue draw and it does have a distinct smell of decomposing flesh but hey we will take it. Smothering AbominationGrim HaruspexMidnight Reaper even Hazoret's Monument as you do cast in a loop and remember all discard cards will be put back to hand via Garna's ETB.
What all this mana positive and mana neutral creature casts lets us do is frankly more of the same, play multiple creatures a turn to make multiple treasures or make multiple tokens or scry multiple times it all depends on the set up you have at the board at the time but the more creatures to sac the more effects, the more the merrier the bigger the better.
We now have an infinite loop going and this deck can use this in multiple ways to end the game. Refer to the infinite loops section to see all the options
Do we instead haveDesecrated Tomb or any creature that creates tokens as part of our loop? make sure to end the loop with several millions tokens created and stop the loop with Garna in play, all your tokens now have haste.... Good game? This can also be done is a few other more janky ways using Spawning Pit and either Ashnod's AltarPitiless PlundererSifter of SkullsBlood PetCarrier Thrall and clever use sage of sac'ing for counters and then sac'ing for mana ( or just allays sac'ing for counters if Plunderer or Sifter are in play).
1 year ago
In commander, having cheap and instant speed interaction is preferable to slower spells with more value. As such use something like Disenchant and Swords to Plowshares over Solemn Offering. Especially if you add something like Sunforger to the equation. When you run few interaction spells and little card draw, a good rule of thumb is to play cards that answer a wide variety of spells rather than specific ones. So play cards like Chaos Warp or Generous Gift (removes anything from the board, even lands!) over cards like Lightning Helix (only hits creatures and is limited to small ones).
Boros isn't exactly known for their awesome card draw. Wheel of Fortune is not worth the pricetag in this deck, unless you already just have a spare copy, I would not include it. It most likely helps an opponent more than you, and it actually leads to a lot of unfun games if played early, since one or two players might just get completely manascrewed. It is good in Storm, but this is not Storm ;) Try to leverage your commander instead. There are a ton of Arcane Encyclopedia-esque cards. My personal favorite is Phyrexian Portal, a great political card.
Consider whether you want Basalt Monolith in your deck. It is far and away the best card in your deck as it allows you to immediately go infinite. But is this the gameplay you are seeking? If you want this you can jam in Gamble, Enlightened Tutor, Planar Bridge, Hoarding Dragon etc. Also Grim Monolith is a second Basalt Monolith but better. Avoid cards that only function as infinite mana outlets like Energy Bolt, try to find cards like Walking Ballista.
There are generally better mana rocks out there than the ones you are playing. I don't like to have my mana rocks take up the same turn as my commander, so maybe replace Boros Locket and Commander's Sphere with Talisman of Conviction, Boros Signet and Mind Stone.