Return to Dust

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Exile target artifact or enchantment. If you played this spell during one of your main phases, you may exile up to one other target artifact or enchantment.

Discussion (51)

incontrastofsin666 on Proliferate/Token

3 weeks ago

I would start by upgrading your token generators. Enchantments like Parallel Lives , Anointed Procession , and Doubling Season should be a must. If you need a budget alternative for Doubling Season, go for Primal Vigor . The problem with the latter is that it also affects your opponents' tokens. As far as planeswalkers go, Ajani, the Greathearted does not really work in this kind of deck. You should think about other options like Elspeth, Sun's Champion , Freyalise, Llanowar's Fury , and even Elspeth, Knight-Errant would perform better than Ajani. The deck also seems to lack removal, so I would consider adding cards like Return to Dust , Song of the Dryads , Lignify , Aura Shards (this one should be a must), Swords to Plowshares , and Path to Exile . A budget artifact that I would consider adding is Throne of the God-Pharaoh because you will constantly be tapping your creatures, so it'll trigger. It's won me multiple games. Other enchantments to consider are Mirari's Wake , Smothering Tithe (ramps you up big time), Cryptolith Rite , Divine Visitation (a must!), and Sylvan Library . In the creature department, definitely add Craterhoof Behemoth because that's the main win con for token decks. Other creatures you can add are Avacyn, Angel of Hope (adds protection to your board/ends games. If you can't afford this angel, then I would go with Akroma, Angel of Wrath because it'll do nicely if you are running Tooth and Nail ), Avenger of Zendikar , Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite , and Voice of Resurgence . Your artifact section seems to be spot on; if anything, I'd just consider Akroma's Memorial , Ashnod's Altar , and Eldrazi Monument . As far as sorceries, you could add Wrath of God , Finale of Glory , Tooth and Nail (if you resolve the entwine it's game over), and Natural Order . Maybe, Triumph of the Hordes if you have a large board. Once you have some of those pieces, you can start working on your mana base. If you cannot afford a Gaea's Cradle , then definitely go with Growing Rites of Itlimoc  ^Flip (not as fast as the cradle, but since you are running a token deck, it should flip the turn you cast it). Fetches are always nice, so anything that can fetch for a forest or plains will come in handy. I would also add Temple Garden , Razorverge Thicket , Canopy Vista , Wooded Bastion , and Bountiful Promenade . Other cards that will tutor things are Green Sun's Zenith and Chord of Calling . Overall the deck looks good!

Bababad on Kruphix and the Value Town Toolbox (Pantry Raid)

1 month ago

Zerraphon

I super appreciate that :)

we are gonna update our primer soon, getting our other decks on here and updated with primers first.

Restoration Angel , Ephara, God of the Polis , and Brago, King Eternal spring to mind...the deck would shift soo much if I had access to white...especially care package-wise( Return to Dust , Ojutai's Command possibly, Eerie Interlude most assuredly)

I dont have too much experience with etb angels, just whap/midrange angels (bruse/tymna). you cant go wrong by slapping a ton of mana rocks in and sneaking in Brago, King Eternal as an honorary angel and just keep dropping fun angels:p

ezio2907 on monarch 2

1 month ago

Het doel van je deck is duidelijk: go wide. Than we grow tall. Sterk en flexibel. Je commander geeft je card draw of tokens. Alleen zijn er een aantal kaarten die je erin volgens mij in doet omdat ze leuk kunnen zijn. Met de volgende lijst ben ik het niet eens dat ze in je deck (gaan) zitten:

• Torment of Hailfire : Geweldige kaart inderdaad. Je kan hem erin doen. Maar het draagt niet bij aan je strategie. Hij komt vanuit het niets en aan het aantal landje te zien komt die kaart hard aan. Dus zelf zou ik hem er niet indoen omdat het niet bijdraagt aan je strategie en pas een kaart is die je op het laatste moment wilt pakken in de uber late game om dan je te reden. Zou jij deze kaart liever hebben op beurt 5/6/7 dan een andere kaart?

• Crawlspace & Ghostly Prison & Norn's Annex : Ik begrijp dat je niet aangevallen wilt worden. Maar 2 creautes is genoeg om de monarch van je te pakken. Je speelt aggro. Wil je dan dat je langer leeft om je tegenstander dood te maken? Of wil je meer gas hebben om ze dood te maken? Als je langer wilt blijven leven dan raad ik iets aan als lifelink voor je hele team met Whip of Erebos . Daarnaast kan Legion's Landing  ^Flip ook goed van pas komen. Het geeft een chump blocker en kan weer een token maker worden op instant speed (met lifelink).

• Mathas, Fiend Seeker : Is een top kaart. Als je die creatures kan killen tenminste. De manier die ik van jou deck nu veel zie om iets echt weg te halen is met exile of via combat. Door exile word het niet getriggerd en andere kunnen om de combat heen. En denk eraan dat jij voordeel krijgt, maar je tegenstanders ook. Als je deze met 4 man speelt, een creature gaat dood bij de tegenstander. Dan mogen !2! tegenstanders een kaart pakken en jij maar 1. Niet helemaal in jou vordeel denk ik.

• ff tussendoor: Xantcha, Sleeper Agent pracht kaart. Goed gekozen!

• Spiteful Visions : de damage loopt lekker op inderdaad. Maar je helpt je tegenstanders waarschijnlijk meer dan dat je ze tegenwerkt.

• Return to Dust : Simpele vraag: wat zou je met deze kaart allemaal willen removen? Als je weet dat er iets is dat vaak gespeeld is dat je tegenwerkt en dit je antwoord is, hou hem erin. Anders kan die kaart eruit. Voor 4 mana kan je leukere dingen doen.

• Odric, Lunarch Marshal : is een lastige. Je hebt ongeveer 15 creatures met abilities waardoor je iets aan Odric hebt. Je hebt hem zelf gespeeld, hoe vaak was deze guy goed genoeg?

• Master of Cruelties : Gaat deze guy echt alleen aanvallen XD? Je wilt wijd gaan dan werkt hij je toch tegen? Er is vast wel een leuk deck voor hem. Maar deze niet...

• Gleam of Battle : WHY?!?! op het moment dat deze eerlijk het veld op komt dan is +1/+1 niet meer genoeg voor je leger. Het klopt dat het enorm kan helpen maar daar is deze te laat voor.

• Denk er eens aan: Darien, King of Kjeldor & Whip of Erebos ....

• Hour of Revelation : ............. je probeert een leger te maken ........... waarom zou je dat willen weg halen? ......

• Plague Wind & In Garruk's Wake : ze zijn !!9!! mana. Dit kan je reden maar denk maar eens na... Kan jij sneller weer een veld opbouwen voordat je tegenstanders dat kunnen? Gaat de !!9!! mana spel jou helpen om de game te winnen of het spel alleen maar langer te laten duren?

Als ik het goed zie zou ik er dus 12 kaarten uithalen. MAAR.... omdat je nu een iets lagere curve hebt omdat je geen !!9!! mana spells meer speelt kan je er misschien zelfs land uithalen. De mana base laat ik aan jou over om te herzien <-- Doe het, landjes die getapt het veld op komen met een aggro deck zijn vaak niet de oplossing.

De volgende kaarten zou ik overwegen als ik jou was:

• Kambal, Consul of Allocation : Als je deze op tijd kan neerleggen dan drain je je tegenstanders en gain je levens. Je doet langer mee en je tegenstanders minder. Hij gaat waarschijnlijk snel kapot. Maar waarschijnlijk met minimaal 2 triggers en hij eet een removal spel op die naar een groter ding kan gaan van jou.

• Thalia, Heretic Cathar : Deze kaart zorgt ervoor dat je tegenstanders minder snel worden terwijl je een leuke early game chick krijgt. In de late game is deze al minder sterk maar kan je tegenstanders zeker leuk pesten. Maar zelf twijfel ik ook of deze kaart is wat je nodig hebt.

• Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite : lijkt me duidelijk.

• Skullclamp : card draw... Het kost je een token maar je hebt meerdere manieren om meer te maken

• Anointed Procession : Je maakt een heleboel tokens early en late game. Zou het niet heerlijk zijn als je 2x zoveel guys kreeg. En denk nu eens aan al die token met Divine Visitation :)

• Liliana, Dreadhorde General : geeft je creatures, kan je card draw geven en kan creatures van je tegenstander weg halen.

• Ophiomancer : geeft je waarschijnlijk elke upkeep een creature.

• Whip of Erebos : geeft je lifelink en kan iets reanimaten. Ik ben gek op graveyard tricks :D.

• Legion's Landing  ^Flip: geeft je een leuke beurt 1 misschien. Kan een mana zink worden. Geeft als snel een leuk creature

• Als je pillow fort wilt spelen (geloof me dat kan enorm leuk zijn) dan heb je meer kaarten nodig als Ghostly Prison . Dan heb je toch Sphere of Safety nodig.

Of je gaat een hele andere kant op. Je zorgt er voor dat je deck bijna mono removal is. Je vult je deck met betere removal en veel meer boardwipes. ( Vindicate , Wrath of God , Cleansing Nova , Austere Command , Path to Exile en Dreadbore zijn al een paar snelle kaarten die ik kan bedenken) Dan ga je je commander spelen om op gang te komen nadat het veld schoon is. Dan ga je ondertussen investeren in je pillow fort op te bouwen of enchantments neer te leggen die je veld of je commander kunnen helpen. Als jij dat idee niet gaat gebruiken dan ga ik dat doen :) (met een andere commander natuurlijk).

Met andere worden: Je bent op de goede weg maar je moet nog een stukje verder lopen. En als je loopt vergeet dan geen schoenen!!! Een edh deck heeft namelijk 97 kaarten. De eerste 2 zijn Lightning Greaves en Swiftfoot Boots . Focus op je plan om andere dood te maken voordat jij bijna dood bent. Hou rekening met Sander en zijn wipes door kaarten te spelen die je later in de game weer in een klap vooraan kunnen zetten. Hopelijk heb ik je geholpen en als je meer tips van me wilt dan moet je het ff melden :)

gingerthewritingdog on Oketra’s Whitehouse of Weenies

1 month ago

Sun Titan , Swords to Plowshares , Boreas Charger , Serra Ascendant , Windbrisk Heights , Return to Dust , Rootborn Defenses .

KaloShin on Waiting for Godo - cEDH primer

1 month ago

So you mentioned that you weren't too worried about Return to Dust , has anyone in your playgroups ran cards like Dust to Dust or Extract , Shattering Blow ? Just curious.

SideBae on Edgar Markov and his Jacked Up Family

1 month ago

Ok. So, here're my suggestions; feel free to ignore any or all of them, if you so choose:

CARD DRAW/SELECTION: This is a big part of EDH.

• Twilight Prophet : This is similar to Dark Confidant , though better with your curve. It's also a vampire, so... yeah.

• Painful Truths : I've been very impressed with this card in my Tasigur, the Golden Fang deck. It's a great three-mana draw-three.

• Night's Whisper : Similar to Painful Truths .

• Phyrexian Arena : This is similar to Twilight Prophet , but slightly cheaper and harder to remove.

• Faithless Looting : This is a powerhouse in Modern, and it's pretty good in EDH too. It makes a lot of one-land sevens or land-heavy sevens into keepable opening hands.

• Sorin, Grim Nemesis : He's good.

• Champion of Dusk : This card can easily be a mass-draw spell, depending on your board, and his body isn't insignificant.

• Throne of the High City : Using the monarch mechanic in an aggro deck is pretty good. Since you're running Anowon, the Ruin Sage , you don't want to run any of the monarch-making creatures, as none of them are vampires. Marchesa's Decree is also worth considering.

TUTORS: These will make your deck more consistent.

• Gamble : A lot of people call this the red Entomb , but it's great if you have four or more cards in hand.

• Demonic Tutor / Vampiric Tutor : These are the gold-standard for tutors, but they're rather expensive and therefore hard to get.

• Mastermind's Acquisition / Diabolic Tutor : These are good subs for Demonic Tutor .

RAMP: I think you're running too many lands for an aggro deck; also, your ramp package has room for improvement. Replacing a few lands with rocks and potentially some more creatures can make the deck a lot better.

• Talisman of Conviction / Talisman of Hierarchy / Talisman of Indulgence : These are better signets. You probably want to keep at least two signets in with these two, at least.

• Mana Crypt / Mox Diamond / Mana Vault / Grim Monolith : These cards are expensive AF, but good. If you can use them, you should.

• Ancient Tomb : This is a great piece of land-ramp and can land a signet or talisman on turn one.

REMOVAL: You have a lot of good removal spells, mainly because a lot of your removal is more than a one-for-one (see Fell the Mighty , Crackling Doom and Return to Dust ). In a format with three opponents, you typically want to be doing more than trading one-for-ones, a notable exception being Swords to Plowshares , which is an absurdly powerful card. I suggest running some of the following:

• Fire Covenant : This is EXCELLENT spot removal, as it differentially kills what you need to kill.

• Wear / Tear : Usually a two-for-one. Any red-white deck in EDH should run this.

• Toxic Deluge : This is a great board-wipe, especially for decks with a lot of counters that get your own creatures' toughnesses up. As an added bonus, you can cast it while Gaddock Teeg is down.

• Pestilence / Pyrohemia : These are sorta like permanent-based Toxic Deluge s.

• Reckless Spite : Costing five life isn't a big deal, especially if you have life-linking vampires.

• Liliana's Triumph / Innocent Blood : If you have a token on the field, Innocent Blood is pure profit. Liliana's Triumph is just regular profit.

• Despark : I know I just said one-for-one's aren't typically good, but I've been very impressed with this one. At instant-speed, it's a powerful effect. Worth considering.

• Grasp of Fate / Oblivion Ring : I'd take one of these over Luminous Bonds any day.

MANA BASE: Untapped lands are the best lands, but once you hit three colors, it can be tough to make your mana work while coming in untapped. Consider the following:

• Mana Confluence / City of Brass : Worth running in any deck over two colors.

• Blood Crypt / Godless Shrine / Sacred Foundry : Due to the recent reprints, these are unusually cheap right now. I suggest running them if possible.

• Prismatic Vista : It's a better Evolving Wilds , though it is around $20 these days.

• Battlefield Forge / Sulfurous Springs / Caves of Koilos : These ETB untapped and only hurt if you need the colors.

• Sunbaked Canyon / Silent Clearing : A little on the pricy side, but these ETB untapped and can cycle if you're flooded.

• Unclaimed Territory / Cavern of Souls : These are chromatic for your vampires, and Cavern of Souls can hose pesky blue decks.

• Dragonskull Summit / Isolated Chapel / Clifftop Retreat : These'll almost always ETB untapped, if you craft your landbase right and play carefully.

CREATURES: There're some creatures I think you should upgrade from the Maybeboard:

• Drana, Liberator of Malakir : This puts down a hell of a clock. I think she's better than Deathless Ancient .

• Bloodline Keeper  ^Flip: This is a GREAT card. I think it should replace Paladin of the Bloodstained .

• Cordial Vampire : This is probably a good bit better than Legion Lieutenant .

MISCELLANEOUS: There're some other cards you might like. Consider the following:

• Shared Animosity : One time, many moons ago, I built a modern goblins deck with this. It was alright/terrible in Modern, but in a relatively slow-moving format like EDH it can be a real powerhouse.

• Smallpox / Pox : Smallpox is easily one of my favorite cards in EDH, and may be good with your high land count, even if you choose to cut three or four lands. It'll depend on your meta and your final deck list. It could be awful, but it could be good. Pox is much more likely to be terrible, but is worth having on your radar.

• Suppression Field : You're running very few planeswalkers, fetches, and with a little crafting, you can have very few creatures and/or artifacts with activated abilities. In my meta, this card is absurd. Especially against me.

• Price of Glory : This discourages instant-speed interaction. In a deck like this, it's very likely to hose blue-players without really touching you.

• Necrogen Mists : This is a good way to limit your opponents' ability to oppose you, especially if you choose to run Falkenrath Gorger off your Maybeboard.

• Armageddon : Speaking of limiting your opponents' ability to stop you... Just make sure you cast it while you're ahead. Decree of Annihilation is good for this at instant-speed.

• Stranglehold : Everyone searches. Make 'em stop.

• Aura of Silence : This is good in most metas. The tax effect is brutal, and the sacrifice has the ability to break a combo in a pinch.

• Rule of Law : This'll hose pretty much any combo deck. I hate playing against this card. (I play Storm.)

• Authority of the Consuls : This is a good way to make sure opponents can't poop out blockers too quick.

Firstmiracle on OKetra Human Zombo alliance

2 months ago

Ok Niko, Quick Breakdown of what you've got here.

I notice several themes integrated into the deck. You should probably only focus on one theme, and if a secondary theme crops up take advantage of it's synergies. Right now I'm seeing:

Tokens Populate Soldiers Lifegain Creature Count Matters Enchantments Matter

Next we look at targeted removal:

Wanderer's Strike - Just one removal spell is too few. What happens if someone plays a dank artifact or enchantment? Do you just die to it?

Next we'll look at boardwipes:

Hour of Revelation - Some heavy restrictions here. Do you really want to wait for your boardwipe to become discounted? This is also too few board wipes. What happens if the creatures are indestructible? Or if Someone plays around Hour of Rev?

Next we'll look at ramp:

Smothering Tithe - Excellent choice, and a real over-performing option as well.

Ashnod's Altar - Excellent way to make use of your tokens and small costed buddies.

Everflowing Chalice - Aight, not my first pick, but it's aight.

Sol Ring - Duh

This is a pretty good ramp package, but I think we could upgrade it.

Next we'll break down your card draw options:

Mentor of the Meek - Decent in this deck. Sure the tokens you want to make the most of don't work out, and a few cards you play can turn this on. I like him, lets optimize creatures around him to make him better.

Skullclamp - Ayup!

Two cards that draw for you is a good start, lets add in some more.

Alright, let's cut everything that isn't a creature, that doesn't make tokens on its own, that isn't removal, card draw, boardwipes, or ramp, that doesn't have synergy with your commander.

Ajani's Welcome - A great card, but definitely reserve it for a build where you abuse your life totals more so than make creatures.

Anafenza, Kin-Tree Spirit - Most of your creatures are tokens.

Angel of Glory's Rise - Anti-synergies with your commander, and the tokens it creates.

Angel of Renewal - We can find a card that does something better.

Angelic Accord - We want to make angel tokens, but we're not here to gain life.

Angelic Chorus - While this looks good, it generally equates to 4-5 life a turn. Not bad, but not amazing for the investment in this deck.

Angelic Exaltation - Boy do I have mixed feelings on this card, suffice it to say, if you have no creatures, this card sucks. You might have no creatures when you draw this card. That would suck.

Elite Inquisitor - A good card, but we can do better.

Fiendslayer Paladin - A good card, but we can do better.

Forebear's Blade - There's a little synergy here, but to be honest you want a huge discount from this, and you're not likely to get a consistent discount.

Gleam of Authority - Odd counter strategy tossed in. I assume because of Cathars' Crusade which can win the game without gleam of authority.

Glorious Anthem - A great spell for a tempo based weeny deck. This is a cast based token deck.

Harvest Hand  ^Flip- A good card, but we can do better.

Illusionist's Bracers - I think I understand why you included this, but it doesn't work with Oketra. Oketra's ability is triggered not activated. You probably were thinking of Strionic Resonator

Lena, Selfless Champion - You have so many more token creatures than non-token ones, and your zombie tokens don't benefit from her selflessness at all.

Martyr's Bond - This has potential in a deck that sacrifices it's stuff to maintain board control. I don' think this is a bad card, it just isn't a good enough fit.

Power Conduit -Here's that counter theme again.

Preeminent Captain - Soldier theme.

Sigil of the Empty Throne - Enchantment theme

Squad Captain -Creature count matters theme.

Standing Troops - A good card, but we can do better.

Sunblade Angel - A good card, but we can do better.

Umbral Mantle - I may have missed what this was for.

Veteran's Armaments - Soldier theme again.

Wanderer's Strike - A good card, but we can do better.

Now, I am well aware that this is a lot of cards. Let's shore up your deck, maybe by analyzing your win conditions.

God-Eternal Oketra + Creature Spells = Profit

God-Eternal Oketra + Cathars' Crusade + Creature Spells = Board pump

Token Makers + Divine Visitation = Profit

Expendable Tokens + Ashnod's Altar = Profit

So you win by smacking with a bunch of medium sized tokens, most of the time. This means you need to do three things, Play creatures, Draw Creature spells, and protect your creatures.

Let's start by adding in some badass creatures that fit in your deck well.

Loyal Sentry - One mana has never been spent so well. In the late game it makes a token, in the early game it swings for damage, in the mid game it blocks and destroys pesky creatures.

Knight of the White Orchid - A bear with first strike that ramps you. Pretty good.

Oreskos Explorer - I would never play this in a non-mono-white deck. This does however let you catch up if you are late on land draws, and is at worst a bear to block with.

Benalish Marshal - Glorious Anthem

Boreas Charger - Ramp bud, ramp in mono-white whenever possible. Helps that you could make a zombie, or sac it to skullclamp.

Brimaz, King of Oreskos - I heard you wanted more cats? Can I convince you to play more cats?

Leonin Warleader - This was a card in your maybeboard, its really good.

Oketra the True - This is a fairly good card. Big blocker, or a token generator if you're doing poorly. I often hold her in hand to dump and rebuild after a board wipe.

Ranger of Eos - Only a few cards in your deck that this can retrieve, but a refill alongside making a zombie is an incredibly reserved play that could prevent you from over committing to the board.

Crested Sunmare - Don't get confused. This card cares if you gain life, but not how much. You have plenty of life gain left in the deck to justify making an army of 5/5 indestructible horses.

Geist-Honored Monk - Build a board, save for right after board wipes, or to pull ahead and force one. This is at worst a 3/3 with Vigilance, and two 1/1's with flying for 5 mana. Most often, this will be a 5/5 with vigilance, two 1/1's with flying and a 4/4 with vigilance for 5 mana.

Sun Titan - Sun Titan is Sun Titan. No mono-white deck could be ashamed to run it.

Angel of Serenity - This card is heavily underrated. It is removal, with the possibility to come back, but its also an easy way to sneak in a lethal attack while generating some board presence.

Good on creatures now? Awesome, let's look at Instants.

Swords to Plowshares - Remove that creature.

Generous Gift - Remove that Permanent. Oh and make a creature smaller than my Zombie tokens.

Disenchant - Get that Artifact or Enchantment off my battlefield and in your graveyard.

Rootborn Defenses - Yeah, this.

Unbreakable Formation - This can win games, or prevent the loss of games.

Return to Dust - Fuck these two things in particular, or just one if it's that bad.

Charge Across the Araba - Talk about stupid unpredictable win-cons for a mid-range token deck. This is one.

That about wraps up Instants, now Sorceries.

Divine Reckoning - Protects your general, but still clears the board.

Hallowed Burial - For those mf'ers that don't die.

Austere Command - A very utility board wipe.

Lastly add in a Land Tax

Cloudchaser.Kestrel on Sun-Feather

2 months ago

I would cut:

Insufficiently on theme - these are good cards but don´t take advantage of your commander or what you´re trying to do. Magnetic Theft , Comeuppance , Electrodominance , Lapse of Certainty , Panic , Return to Dust , Teferi's Protection , Temur Battle Rage , Titan's Strength , Wear , Acrobatic Maneuver , Wheel of Fortune , Blasphemous Act , Day of Judgment , Empty the Warrens , Faithless Looting , Gamble , Kari Zev's Expertise , Wrath of God ,

Removal targets: Smothering Tithe , Gisela, Blade of Goldnight

good cards you don´t really have the support for. Aurelia, the Warleader , Avacyn, Angel of Hope , Cloudshift - the only solid target I see is Sun Titan ? same with Eerie Interlude

Paradox Engine was recently banned in commander.

Given that I cut more than the needed 16 I´ll point out a couple feather allstars you´re missing.

Aurelia's Fury - does so much. One damage to one of your creatures and you have repeatable tapping, removal, and combo protection. Intimidation Bolt - repeatable fog when targeting your own creature. Spawning Breath - this is your smothering tithe replacement, mana, creatures for Zada to target, and removal in a pinch all on an instant. Orim's Thunder - kicked is the best repeatable enchantment and artifact removal I´ve found.