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Disciple of Griselbrand
Creature — Human Cleric
1, Sacrifice a creature: you gain life equal to the sacrificed creature's toughness.
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Disciple of Griselbrand Discussion
2 days ago
Marionette Master works by proxy
1 month ago
This deck feels like it can get out of hand fast if left unattended, the fact that there is coalescence in the synergy of the deck is more fearsome.
But if you want a more sacrifice theme then I suggest Ashnod's Altar, Black Market, Attrition, Martyr's Bond, Disciple of Griselbrand. Those would be the basics and added effect of sacrificing creatures.
1 month ago
Also, how are you liking Razaketh, the Foulblooded? I have considered running him but I was concerned I wouldn't have enough creatures lying around that I would be happy to sac away. I think my deck supports Sidisi, Undead Vizier and Disciple of Griselbrand but I'm not sure I'd want that many more effects like that.
1 month ago
You have many cards here that just are not going to do anything in this format. You're also holding on to too many win-cons. I highly recommend taking a look at this deck for some ideas.
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Logistically you need to pick an idea and run with it. Do you want to be an attrition deck, do you want to ping people to death, do you want to set up a combo and just win in a single turn, do you want to swing through with a few massive creatures or tons of little ones. Keep in mind that in any given game you may only go through 20-40% of your deck...if that. So in a deck full of one offs you need tons of synergy so your deck constantly plays similarly. Tutors are excellent, I'd recommend more draw spells such as Font of Mythos. Anything that gives you card advantage is excellent. Athreos rewards having strong abilities on bodies, so look for creatures with powerful, synergistic effects.
Things I personally would remove: Absorb Vis, Lost Legacy, Mind Rot, Eternal Dragon, Filigree Familiar, Gifted Aetherborn, Mesa Unicorn, Celestial Purge, Pharika's Cure, Rest for the Weary, Ritual of Rejuvenation, Angel's Feather, Demon's Horn, Ichor Wellspring, Liliana's Caress, Megrim, and Phyrexian Unlife. None of these cards are particularly bad as individuals, but none really contribute to a deck that as a rule will contend with three other players. Look for cards that affect each player or opponent, also, very rarely do you want to include a card that targets a specific color in your opponents deck. I know this seems like a lot. Take my advice with a grain of salt. I've been playing awhile, and I am biased towards my meta, for you, this may be what you enjoy. Above all, just play. I can throw ideas at you all day, but you'll learn MUCH faster just by playing. :p Some things I recommend to look for, good draw spells, good tutors, good combo pieces and synergistic cards. Look for cards with similar effects to the ones you like.
For real, feel free to ask questions. I just gave you a novel to read. Just think it over. Best of luck!!
2 months ago
Dawn of the Dead might be a cool addition in situations where you have cast torgar but someone destroys him. you can let him drop the the graveyard and recur him at upkeep. you can repeat this if you sac him before your end step so he goes back to the graveyard. also another cool trick is Disciple of Griselbrand and Tree of Perdition which combo's with Dawn of the Dead and gives even more value to your gravepact
3 months ago
As soon as I saw Torgaar spoiled, I thought of you haha. Glad to see you didn't disappoint!
Some thoughts, in order of what I think may work best:
Temporal Extortion Would be great to torment your opponents with in this deck.
Hatred and Unspeakable Symbol Would be a great way to give a Souldrinker boost to any creature (not even your own)
Bond of Agony Is another great way to leverage Torgaar to heal yourself
Chainer, Dementia Master Could be another way to get out creatures to sac
Dash Hopes Is a fun control card in a deck like this
Songs of the Damned Could be awesome later in the game
Control-ish: Slaughter, Sheoldred, Whispering One, Season of the Witch, Yahenni's Expertise (great with your CMC), Ultimate Price (may be better than some others in there now)
Recursion-ish: Strands of Night, Grave Betrayal, Haunted Fengraf
Ramp-ish: Razaketh, the Foulblooded, Underworld Connections, Bontu the Glorified
Life: Disciple of Griselbrand, Gonti's Machinations
Defense: Eldrazi Monument, Will-o'-the-Wisp, Yahenni, Undying Partisan
Sorry if any of these are redundant. Great deck, as always!
4 months ago
So when I started building this deck, I think I had one Varolz, the Scar-Striped in there. But over time, I realized how valuable he is to the deck. Having a sac outlet that costs 0 mana is extremely important to making the deck tick, and his ability to regenerate makes him a surprisingly good beater/blocker. Once you scavenge a few things, he's this (almost) unkillable 4/4 or 5/5 creature that does a lot of work.
With that in mind, I think Disciple of Griselbrand is weaker because of the mana cost attached to his sac ability, and gaining small chunks of life (since our creatures are small) will just delay us losing a little bit.
So, in short, I prefer Varolz, but the Pawn of Ulamog would be an interesting replacement to test. Who knows; it might be better.
4 months ago
What are your thoughts replacing Varolz, the Scar-Striped?
I had two ideas:
Disciple of Griselbrand is one fewer mana, not that this deck is hurting in the low end of the mana curve, but it also serves as a sac outlet with a different effect than Varolz.
Pawn of Ulamog is the same CMC but 1BB instead of 1GB, and it spits out more tokens.
Both cards are cheaper (even though you are under the $30 already), and fit thematically. You are a better deckbuilder than I, so I am actually just curious as to what your thoughts are on these creatures. I like both of them in this deck, and I think Varolz is the most replaceable creature in the deck.