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Maralen of the Mornsong Discussion
4 days ago
if you want to take the risk you can always do Maralen of the Mornsong and Mindlock Orb that's the main object that Platinum Angel is in its a full lock and the life drain from Maralen of the Mornsong will eventually kill them and it has the Deadeye Navigator Draining Whelk combo for "infinite counter" and Royal Assassin and Imposing Sovereign for "infinite creature removal" the more of those two you have the better. GL and Have fun designing decks!
1 week ago
1 week ago
And if you like a little more hazard:
1 week ago
I apologize in advance for the ensuing novel, but I just wanted to offer some pointers on a couple aspects of the deck I feel could be improved with a little more black for douchebaggery and more efficiently costed, budget green cards. Looks like a super cool idea!
I PROMISE it's worth a good read, you'll find at least a few goodies in here.
Well, would you be willing to get a Fecundity? I picked a set up at my LGS for under 3, so one should be less than a buck. It's one of the better options for draw in green, and I feel like it will put in decent work considering all the sacrificing you'll be doing, not to mention since it's more of a group hug card that there's a big chance it won't get countered or removed.
In addition, find as many cheap ways to regen your creatures as possible, so when they do hit the board,they aren't going to get Doom Bladed or burned to death.
Overseer of the Damned Is decent too in multiplayer. Assuming you can change out a few cards you're not too sure about keeping with more cheap removal, it can definitely help you.
Look into some dredge cards! Some are pretty cheap and fill your yard pretty fast when they're put into it.
Hypergenesis might just be the best budget way to cheat out things. My only suggestion would be to drop small things first, since your opponents will take advantage of this to drop HUGE creatures, enchantments or lands. Then, at last, in the best case scenario, drop an uncounterable Dictate of Erebos and Grave Betrayal, then watch the world burn before you. At least until someone plays Naturalize (Which you should include as well if you aren't already planning on it. Artifact and enchantment hate is a must).
Choice of Damnations is a killer if left uncountered, and is super flavorful. Love this card in my deck.
Siege Behemoth helps with big swings and is a target for a removal or counterspell; that is a plus! It puts this in your graveyard for reanimation and leaves your opponent(s) one relevant spell-in-hand less!
Disciple of Bolas helps early on with some lifegain and some card draw to put you ahead early with potential to draw into some bombo pieces.
Nezumi Graverobber Could see some light play as potential removal target (after you hit someone with either a Bojuka Bog, Relic of Progenitus, etc) to save your more valuable pieces. If not, you get recursive fatties until you get a combo on board!
Another later-game play without appropriate ramp, but Lim-Dul the Necromancer is just too damn flavorful to go unmentioned at $1.99 on Amazon.
Kuon, Ogre Ascendant (The essence, more or less) can get you really far with Lim-Dul and an Overseer of the Damned on board. You get tokens to sac each other player's turn, not to mention any creature you want )most likely to sac to Jarad) for $.66 and 2 mana!
Maybe a King Macar, the Gold-Cursed with a way to tap your creatures down (It's easy enough to find something on Gatherer that'll tickle your fancy) basically reads "Inspired -- Whenever King Macar, the Gold-Cursed becomes untapped, tell target opponent 'nope' and take whatever you don't like away from them, then laugh uncontrollably."
Greel, Mind Raker says hi to your buddy Necrotic Ooze (especially with Devoted Druid and Quillspike in the 'yard). No hand for you!
Chainer, Dementia Master has been mentioned, and I am here to second it tenfold. If you can get it on board and steal something huge for 3 life just to swing in and sac it to Jarad next turn, why not?
Painful Quandary and Greel are cute together, and it alone deters opponents from taking out things of yours at the expense of their own life, assuming they're playing budget too and aren't playing lifegain-sisters-combo.
One word in multiplayer environments: Sanguimancy
On a similar note, Gray Merchant of Asphodel is a tank, but puts a bit of a bullseye on your back in the next several turns.
Maybe (HEAVY emphasis on maybe, since it can sometimes be a suicide mission if you can't be too political about things and make a truce with someone beforehand) a copy of Horobi, Death's Wail? Blue and red players will totally thank you or piss you off, depending on your current relationship with them.
Ghoulcaller Gisa is a champ in the event that it isn't time to get Jarad out to perhaps get an infinite wall of zombies from the infinite/infinite Ooze, then recur him? Just an idea at an alternate wincon.
Golgari Charm gives you all the utility you could want at any point in the game.
Conjurer's Closet can be anywhere from adorable to downright cruel depending on what you put into it (Shriekmaw is okay to force someone to sac. Anything that ramps or puts lands in your hands upon entering the battlefield. Acidic Slime to get rid of whatever you're worried about, Balustrade Spy to fill your 'yard or anyone else's. Big Game Hunter for fatty removal. Bloodhunter Bat for some life drain. Cadaver Imp for pseudo-reanimation. DEFINITELY Corpse Connoisseur if you go heavier on the reanimation route so you can put out what you want, when you want. Earwig Squad to take big threats out of combo decks. Fertilid and open mana for mana ramp and deck thinning. Fleshbag Marauder for removal if you have extra creatures lying around. Hag Hedge-Mage could get annoying with her dual relevant abilities. Loaming Shaman helps a ton against other decks that rely on graveyard interaction and it lets you shuffle back in your own threats if you're starting to get low on cards. You get the point, it's easily abusable).
Skinrender -- Ooze friend!
Bow of Nylea UTILITY BEYOND UTILITY.
Sidisi, Undead Vizier is on the rise as far as price and popularity. Grab her before she gets to be too much!
Sewer Nemesis is just an overall solid card for a deck like this. It benefits from having a big graveyard, it gets bigger with each spell you cast, and you potentially fill your 'yard with more creatures.
Nath's Elite because it can help when you can swing for lethal but the opponent has a lot of blockers.
Gift of the Deity is a phenom for a pseudo boardwipe.
Viscera Seer to put things in the graveyard, enable synergies I'll list later and scry to help draw quality with Fecundity.
Masked Admirers, nothing special. Not a huge fan of the card, just extra card draw.
Hydras are cool, budget hydras are even cooler. To kick things off, Lifeblood Hydra is awesome given the mana. I'll take a decent sized creature, not to mention lifegain and card draw when it dies!
Hooded Hydra a personal friend, and gives you sac fodder if and when needed.
Genesis Hydra is a way to potentially cheat out a bomb. Get it while you can, it's sitting pretty at $2.00 for now. There's a good chance it will drop after rotation with the new core set, but who knows for certain? Still a great addition for that price
Scourge of Skola Vale fits a sac-for-benefit-when-paired-with-__ theme. The buff is an added bonus.
Soulflayer because delve is a sweet mechanic to thin your graveyard of the creatures you don't want, and his ability is sweet.
Centaur Chieftain could be cool to give your things a boost and trample for a turn (or multiple if he's... "in the closet" *painfully laughs at my awful pun).
Deity of Scars is another Ooze buddy with Devoted druid in the graveyard for instant speed regen.
Body Snatcher told me to tell you hello, and he's doing well. Give him a ring when you can!
Ambuscade Shaman may deserve a consideration here over a few cards you have, as it can be quite nice for being an efficiently costed enabler to abuse Gisa.
Whip of Erebos is a beautiful card in any black deck, and does well with the budget theme too. Reanimation and lifelink can go miles with the whole "I need more life than my opponents to win with Jarad" idea.
One of my personal favorite cards in black for EDH is Grave Betrayal. It's slow and never good to draw into early on in the game, but it's a beaut when it hits the field. It will do SO MUCH WORK for you. (If you can splurge a little, it combos incredibly well with Grave Pact or Dictate of Erebos and a sac engine AHEM Jarad AHEM. I've never been against damaging my opponents, scrying with a Viscera Seer, then getting a wave of creatures in multiplayer for the next turn)
When and if that lands, and all else goes wrong, Champion of Lambholt can be such an OP card (Even better with Gisa or other token triggers).
A bunch of the cards I listed are more synergistic with the concept of your opponents creatures dying to get value out of it (i.e. Dictate + Grave Betrayal/Lim Dul), but I've tried to tweak it appropriately to fit this deck's theme like Gisa or Viscera Seer to proactively trigger the Dictate.
You should also look into some ramp like Burnished Hart, Explore etc and if you can buy a few cards above $2 to make it just a bit more competitive, Asceticism is a MUST and Maralen of the Mornsong should be a serious consideration. You'll most likely be gaining life at some point in the deck, so there's a chance you can expend some life in the process. :)
Lastly, look into a Ghost Quarter to get rid of any problematic land.
Those are just some suggestions for the black portion, seeing that's my favorite color in the game. Best of luck with the deck, looks like a super solid idea! +1 from me for sure. :)
2 weeks ago
Good start. It's overall pretty good, but I do think there could be some improvements. I feel that Maralen of the Mornsong conflicts with Master of the Feast, but that is just me. As for suggestions, I think Villainous Ogre could prove to be a good inclusion as something to sac and swing with, and can even regenerate. In my opinion, Mark of the Oni is a must as you can just take your opponent's creature when things go south for you, and could could even be used as sac fodder for Disciple of Griselbrand's effect. Kuro, Pitlord is always another option.
2 weeks ago
Maralen + Mindlock Orb is pretty sweet but getting there is pretty tough.
How about with some Dredge?
The idea would be to grind them out using Raven's Crime while having the possibility to deal big damage with Lotleth Troll. All the while we just fuel the graveyard until a Golgari Thug dies getting us back Maralen of the Mornsong, meanwhile Myr Retriever can get back our 1-2 of Mindlock Orbs. Play them both once opponents hand is dead and then you can use your Myr Retriever to get back your Elixir of Immortality and win!
2 weeks ago
Ive been trying to build a modern deck that utilizes Maralen of the Mornsong for like a year lol. I feel 8Rack is her best home...
|Power / Toughness||2/3|
|Avg. draft pick||1.38|
|Avg. cube pick||13.45|
|Commander / EDH||Legal|
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- Maralen of the Mornsong + Mindlock Orb
- Beacon of Tomorrows + Lich + Maralen of the Mornsong
- Maralen of the Mornsong + Stranglehold
- Maralen of the Mornsong + Teferi's Puzzle Box
- Exquisite Blood + Maralen of the Mornsong + Sanguine Bond
- Hex Parasite + Maralen of the Mornsong + Soul Conduit
- Archive Trap + Maralen of the Mornsong
- Archive Trap + Bloodchief Ascension + Maralen of the Mornsong
- Maralen of the Mornsong + Seizan, Perverter of Truth
- Maralen of the Mornsong + Ob Nixilis, Unshackled
- Maralen of the Mornsong + Shimmer Myr + Teferi's Puzzle Box
- Maralen of the Mornsong + Necropotence
- Gray Merchant of Asphodel + Maralen of the Mornsong
- Ob Nixilis, Unshackled + Sorin Markov + Maralen of the Mornsong
- Maralen of the Mornsong + Platinum Emperion
- Aven Mindcensor + Maralen of the Mornsong + Ob Nixilis, Unshackled
- Isochron Scepter + Maralen of the Mornsong + Shadow of Doubt
- Maralen of the Mornsong + Ob Nixilis, Unshackled + Teferi's Puzzle Box
- Liliana's Specter + Maralen of the Mornsong
- Ad Nauseam + Maralen of the Mornsong
- Teferi's Puzzle Box + Maralen of the Mornsong
- Maralen of the Mornsong + Psychogenic Probe