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Azorius Guildgate enters the battlefield tapped.
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Azorius Guildgate Discussion
1 week ago
Hey sweet oloro deck now by potent do you mean more controlling? ie:Winter Orb + Tangle Wire Or more of the Omniscience + Laboratory Maniac Win more combo? But for your land base I think you're fine unless you wanna upgrade to your shock lands(Hallowed Fountain,Godless Shrine and Watery Grave) or the Guild Gates cycle(Azorius Guildgate,Orzhov Guildgate and Dimir Guildgate). Though for a good addition I would suggest Glacial Chasm for some "you cant touch me" fun.
2 weeks ago
First of all, welcome to the EDH format.
I'm assuming you are playing EDH with the multiplayer rules (if not, some of the things I suggest may not be relevant).
Most (if not all) decks in EDH run Sol Ring because it provides fast mana, which is always nice. In multicolor builds I would also suggest running the signets, so for this deck that would be Azorius Signet. Manafixing and ramp are a very important factor in EDH, the other being card draw. For this reason I'll also suggest Mind Stone (it has bigger evolutions also: Hedron Archive and Dreamstone Hedron).
Regarding your manabase, technically you cannot run Mystic Monastery because it makes red mana. Alternatives can be: Azorius Guildgate , Azorius Chancery , Tranquil Cove , Command Tower. I would also suggest running Rogue's Passage as it can make your commander unblockable (and so you can worry less of it dying).
Regarding your the rest of the deck, it looks pretty good. I would pay attentiont to not playing too much high manacost cards, sticking with the token theme, you might be interested in Hanweir Militia Captain. The best token producer in white (in my opinion) is Luminarch Ascension (a bit pricier than cards I like to suggest though).
If you're sticking to being mainly monocolored you could also run (again a bit pricier) Caged Sun.
I hope this helped a bit, if you have further questions or need some more specific advice, feel free to ask.
I'll also mention an amazing site that gathers data on what cards people use for their commander decks: edhrec.com
1 month ago
Themes Blue/White Good Stuff UWgud Stax Your things cost less, theirs cost more. ETB Mill Pillowfort
Cards to cut or just don't do enough Slow Motion, Stormscape Familiar, Select for Inspection (too Specific), Etherium Sculptor (Not justifiable), Mindshrieker, Burnished Hart (Look, we all love this stupid Elk, but he sits at a slot where you need to have around that much mana up for counter spells. You really only want to be spending that type of mana to reduce your costs or increase opponents costs or stop them from attacking you. Else, counterspells. Two mana ramp is what you are looking for, ideally, not six spread over two turns), Jace's Archivist(I like this card a lot, and I think it's great with things like Thousand-Year Elixir, but realistically you want to be sculpting the perfect control hand all game rather than tossing it away.), Rhystic Study(Great card, but not $8 great. Mostly priced based on popularity. Budget choice for you, you don't need it). Temple Bell (Fun card, but too beneficial for your opponents. Don't spend mana to speed other's race, that's the opposite goal of the deck.), Cataclysm (I don't see why you have this other than as a combo with As Foretold.), Entrapment Maneuver, Hindering Touch, Leave in the Dust, Sleep(Only beneficial against creature decks), Psychic Spiral(You have to devote yourself to wheel for this card to work well, and wheel arguably doesn't help your deck.), Sunder(This combos only with As Foretold), Isperia, Supreme Judge (Costs six, his only creature decks, they don't have to attack you, there is better card draw.), Sphinx of Magosi, Silent Sentinel (Requires attack and arguably not enough enchantments).
You have a pretty decent Stax and 'Don't touch me there' package going on here, but not a whole lot of direction other than that. Some mill, some land destruction, but no real win-cons. If you want to have a serious mill win con, you can take out a little of your protection package and focus it on ETB effects and pair with a card like Altar of the Brood. Is that enough justification? I don't know, but ETB effects can be very strong and already seem like a small sub-theme. You would have to make more serious cuts for it. You definitely need to upgrade your mill-win con to be more flexible if you intend on winning that way. Sitting down at the average CMDR table of at least sum(4) means that you have hundreds of cards to whittle away. Some suggestions:Aforementioned Altar of the Brood, only for considerationSands of Delirium, Memory Erosion, Jace's Erasure, Sphinx's Tutelage, Increasing Confusion, Hinder/Spell Crumple + Tunnel Vision is a particular jank combo favorite of mine. Really you want stuff that hits early and doesn't require any further effort so you can pillowfort yourself, or are huge sinks for the late game push.
If you are looking to remove some pillowfort and upgrade your stax package, check out Brago, King Eternal, Paradox Engine, Static Orb, Tangle Wire, Torpor Orb, Smokestack, Trinisphere, Thorn of Amethyst, Meekstone, Clock of Omens (This is especially useful), Dovin Baan, Inspiring Statuary.
Also, you should take out all land destruction since you don't have a real way to take advantage of it. Even with a couple of your reductions, the green player/ Mizzix player will get on board faster and annihilate you out of spite.
Also, the deck only has mill as its win-con thus far, which is tenuous at best even in the most refined EDH decks. I suggest you put some of the not-so-flashy-feels-bad-win-cons in this deck such as Approach of the Second Sun, Azor's Elocutors, Laboratory Maniac, etc.
Also, after above edits, you only have three board clears by my count. Even if I'm off, you want around 7-10 for a deck of this style that covers a multitude of fronts. Most board-wipes are just creature based, but you should include ones like Akroma's Vengeance, Consulate Crackdown, Planar Cleansing, Nevinyrral's Disk. Things that can be instant speed are also great like Rout and Evacuation.
Your land base needs a pretty big update as well. You should really only be running 10 or less of each basic for a dual colored deck, though not as important for three and up decks. But, you have quite a few double-symbol costs that your cost reduction can't affect.Fixing lands Coastal Tower, Meandering River, Evolving Wilds, Terramorphic Expanse, Azorius Guildgate, Sejiri Refuge, Tranquil Cove, Prairie Stream, Exotic Orchard.
Hope this helps! :)
3 months ago
4 months ago
If you're playing this in Modern, there are a ton of better options that what was available in Standard in 2015. Serum Visions can replace Divination, Flooded Strand for Azorius Guildgate and Temple of Epiphany, Path to Exile or Oust for Last Breath, Mana Leak or Remand for Dissolve, Wrath of God for Planar Cleansing, etc. etc. and so on.
5 months ago
7 months ago
+1 Awesome idea, but is going to need A LOT of work if you want to make it anything other than casual.Firstly your Mana base, quite simply it is too random/sporadic to produce consistent, good land that your deck needs. I would reccomend removing:
Ancient Amphitheater - You only have two giants, and the probability of having both in your opening hand is ~0.175
Azorius Guildgate, Boros Guildgate, Selesnya Guildgate, Gruul Guildgate, Izzet Guildgate - Basically all of your Guildgates. They are simply worse versions of lands you could be running, eg shock lands like Hallowed Fountain
Transguild Promenade - Takes land to use, so slows your deck down by an extra turn - ie it sucks
What I would say is: for a relatively budget deck running the Tri-lands are a good idea, also the Prairie Stream and other similar lands are pretty good for your deck. The best list of lands to use I have found is: https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/2a78ia/list_of_dual_lands/Personally running Taplands is a really good idea, as they are fairly cheap and go well with basic lands etc.
In terms of the spells the deck seems really cool, especially the line up of cantrips which act as control for your opponent. In terms of creatures I would add a play set of Ink-Treader Nephilim and Zada, Hedron Grinder (or maybe three as it's legendary).
Also having cards with the heroic effect such as Akroan Crusader will help create more creatures to draw, and also generally be good for the deck. Other than that I think play-testing, and stream-lining are the best way for this deck to move forwards.Good luck I would love to see this deck progress!