, : Untap another target artifact.
, : Target creature can't be blocked this turn.
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Manifold Key Discussion
15 hours ago
1 week ago
To add all of that, I would take out 7 Wastes, Mishra's Bauble, Profane Memento, Thought Prison, Sun Droplet, Mishra's Bauble, Horn of Greed, Golem Artisan, Suspicious Bookcase(swap for Manifold Key, forgot about this beauty earlier), the Kaldra equipment can go (not enough tutoring), Pristine Talisman, swap Orazca Relic for Mind Stone, Oblivion Sower, and two more cards... but that's where it gets really difficult... maybe Skullclamp and Pilgrim's Eye? Your call.
1 week ago
Interesting deck! Looks very powerful for the price. I snagged Thrun for $2 after the recent reprint. I noticed you have Trailblazer's Boots. Have you tried any other unblockable effects like Rogue's Passage, Whispersilk Cloak, Suspicious Bookcase, Prowler's Helm, or Manifold Key? If you have, I'm curious how that worked out for you. I noticed you have a lot of trample effects, and wondered if you found that more useful than unblockable.
2 weeks ago
I think no matter what Dramatic Scepter can have a place in a competitive Emry build, the nature of the combo is simply that strong. If some one wants to run that set up I don't really think it's a poor choice by any means, it simply means the deck will have to be tuned differently to make optimal use of the combo. I've disliked it's performance in the iterations I've had it in so far mostly because I had difficulty in one of two areas: consistently getting Emry out and active as early as possible due to the number of additional tutor elements that feel required to reliably find Dramatic Scepter combo, and consistently hitting quality artifact targets for Emry to recur for value or a win (also due to increased tutor density and decreased artifact density). There is very likely some ideal balance where these issues can be resolved well, but I've had much better luck with the approach that eschews Dramatic Scepter altogether so far for increased consistency playing around Emry value. I'm interested in finding the optimal set up for both approaches in due time and figure the best way to do that is constantly check out other interesting Emry lists for the spicy tech that might make the difference.
When it comes to the keys in Emry I'm not quite sure how much value they would hold given typical play patterns for a number of different approaches. There's nothing wrong with having a nice artifact untap ability or two hanging around to generate extra value from Mana Vaults, Sensei's Divining Tops and the like but I don't think these pieces offer a whole lot as combo elements so they'd likely be pieces that only offer value generation. Makes less sense to run pieces that exclusively provide value without offering combo potential when those slots can potentially do both with something like Chromatic Sphere or Golden Egg. I think if an Emry list wants to get into Urza, Lord High Artificer packages with bounce elements like Paradoxical Outcome and Retract while running perhaps some stax elements like Trinisphere they have more merit as the keys would provide a lot more utility in these situations (particularly Manifold Key letting big constructs swing for 20 to the face). I did initially give an iteration including an Urza package with a key a try but it felt like the deck was pulling in too many directions to perform consistently. Again, with optimized tuning this might be pretty viable competitively, but it feels hard to make it work just right.
Scrap Trawler has been a wonderful performer for me so far. It's definitely going to be a card that Emry variants running a KCI package want to include as it opens up some seriously powerful lines (particularly the Intuition line to tutor for a full infinite combo with a single card at instant speed), but I've had a coupe of games now where Scrap Trawler chains simply for value led to a developmental advantage that secured my ability to win a turn or two later. The important thing to consider with a Scrap Trawler inclusion is that the deck will then really want artifacts in the 0, 1, 2, and 3 slots that can consistently sacrifice themselves for value of their own accord. I had one turn that I recall quite clearly where I had a fair amount of mana available to me and a Semblance Anvil plus Etherium Sculptor in play paired with the Trawler and some random Emry enablers when I drew into Memory Jar. I got to play the Jar, defend it with countermagic, sac Lotus Petal, sac Chromatic Star getting back the Petal, sac Mind Stone getting back the Star, tap and sac Eye of Ramos getting back the Stone, play all my returned artifacts for free plus a new one I had drawn, then sac the Jar getting back and exiling the Eye for later and draw a new grip without even using an Emry activation that I would then later use on a second Jar drop and activaton. I wound up drawing into 2 different engines that I was able to play and subsequently won the game. The value Trawler can generate can be pretty nutty at times when it leads to wins out of nowhere, and the combination of Scrap Trawler, Magewright's Stone, Krark-Clan Ironworks, any 0 cmc artifact, and any 1 cmc artifact as an outright infinite engine for mana (and often draw at the same time) is a solid capstone.
3 weeks ago
If you aren't going to dump green, then I suggest adding more of its color. Green does have some nice constellation cards, and if you're going to be playing with enchantments like Detention Sphere and Winter's Rest, then things like Nylea's Colossus and Setessan Champion would be great finishers (Here's a link to get some more ideas: preview.tinyurl.com/v2ugy4a). You could drop some things like Castle Ardenvale to add more cards like Capture Sphere. Following the green finishers theme, consider adding things like Manifold Key to make your fatties unblockable. Hopefully this helps!
4 weeks ago
1 month ago
Thank you for entrusting me to look over your deck. So i'll start by saying we have reached a point where there are more powerful options than there are available deck slots. Therefore, many times choices come down to prioritizing a specific strategy like voltorn vs go wide, how cards interact with other cards in your deck, or if you want to better your chances against a particular opponent. So the most important information I can give you is the cards that I think will underperform. From there that allows you the freedom to try out some of the things I suggest or test out some of your own choices.
You can find the card by card choices here. I just find it easier to work on a spreadsheet to see what I am changing. Helps me keep track of changes to CMC/mana curve, number of removal spells etc.
Ill use this to talk about general philosophy and other optional choices that I didnt include above.
First things first, many people have mentioned some issues with the mana base. So yes we'll want to get you up around 37 lands. I got you to 36 with 2 cards that find lands. So just be dilligent about your mulligans since were still slightly greedy. Mana production is super important with this deck because all you really need to win after a board wipe is enough mana to recast aurelia and put some swords on her. Because of this early game i tutor for sword of the animist about 70% of the time. I also made some changes to your utility lands so you can get some added benefits there. Becareful with colorless lands, aurelias colors are pretty strict so manage colorless lands closely, if you start having issues either cut colorless lands or add a chromatic lantern. Fetches and Dual lands do make life easier but thats a high cost low impact change. Its nice but not necessary.
As I talk about in the document, Sword of Feast and Famine is the single most impactful change you can make. It sucks because they are super expensive, but it allows you to do ridiculous things and get way ahead of your opponents. It makes the rest of your swords look like rusty forks by comparison. Mid game I am probably tutoring for feast and famine, the only equipment that really comes close is a Sunforger with a full sunforger package though it is slower.
The second most impactful change you can make is adding teferi's protection. Its useful in 100% of games, but it too commends a super high price tag. Fortunately you can substitute this one with a combination of Boros Charm / Comeuppance / Eerie Interlude or other protection effects.
Mana ramp wise, i made a few changes. Nothing crazy, but in a slower setting I do prefer multi ramp as opposed to mind stone type cards. You want a little of both. The options i added are all colorless. If you find that colors are a problem you can look at gilded lotus or kor cartographer. Another thing to mention is that because of the increased mana production, you may find a need to add 1 or 2 cards at 6 or 7CMC. Just pay attention to how it performs. If you have a lot of mana late with nothing to do having something big to go to is nice.
Removal wise I really like my removal to hit everything possible. So thats where I really like Austere Command and things that blow up multiple permanents types. I didnt mention them in the doucment partly due to cost, partly due to CMC, but they are both incredibly effective and thats Ugin, the Spirit Dragon and All Is Dust. Again all you needs is swords and mana to finish a game. Magmaquake is also a nice option since it doesnt kill aurelia and hits planeswalkers. I really like Hour of Revelation but its pretty dangerous for your equipments.... I would want more protection and recursion effects if I were going that Hour of Rev direction, but its great in decks that are slightly less artifact heavy. Cleansing Nova is also pretty real. Deck slots get really tight and it usually means cutting creatures but I also like having both generous gift and chaos warp, you've only got 1 for now and thats ok. Just pay attention to see if you are really needing that second all target piece of removal...they are useful for people that hide behind sporefrog and glacial chasm. Another card I forgot to mention is Volcanic Offering It never hits your stuff, blows up problematic lands without sacrificing your own lands, and is just fun cause everyone gets to be involved. Many options for removal, will depend on what your meta calls for.
Card draw there are a few additional options for things. Wheel of Fortune and Reforge the Soul will both be the best, and combo with smothering tithe. Plus they are pretty disruptive too opponents especially around turn 4 or 5. Aside from those, Tome of Legends and Rogue's Gloves are both reasonable. I like that tome doesnt require successful hits, but overall draws less cards. Manifold Key looks a little better if you decide to go with Tome because aurelia puts more counters on it than you can untap, plus unblockable is needed sometimes. Prophetic Flamespeaker and Tectonic Giant are also ways that you can look at additional cards. They arent as good as just drawing cards, but if your goal is just to look at more cards they will fill the role, plus Prophetic wears equipments very well, but they do sometimes exile cards you wanted.
Another thing that I ran out of room for is more double strike. I usually run 3-4 sources when possible. Duelist's Heritage is my favorite but Silverblade Paladin and True Conviction are also great. Embercleave will also be possible, but I would wait for the price to come down a little.
Other fun cards that warrant some amount of consideration but are not must includes: Neheb, Dreadhorde Champion, Citadel Siege, Hate Mirage Argentum Armor its fun but it gets stuck in hand a lot. If you attack with it you probably just won the game.
Powering Up the deck. If you find yourself in more high power metas facing down stronger and faster opponents, you'll want to embrace the philosophy of more interaction and dropping the curve back down a bit. A few key hatebears can really slow things down like Thalia, Heretic Cathar Hushbringer and Remorseful Cleric. The big thing I use to shutdown combo decks is to get a decent board position, usually a flying creature with a relevant sword (feast and famine if possible) and then use Goblin Engineer to slam Winter Orb and you can watch the combo decks cry salty salty tears. God-Pharaoh's Statue is also an option that isnt winter orb levels of salt inducing but keeps opponents off of big turns.
You can check out my list right here. Aurelia Weapons of War Currently ive got it setup to go very fast to compete in a more combo centric turn 6 turn 7 style meta. My build is going to be a little soft to someone just having a lot of creatures on board. Anyway I hope all this helps :)
1 month ago
Norn's Annex is an interesting choice, do you play against much aggro? If not, it feels a bit weak here. You also have Crawlspace which is cheaper to play (that Ad-Naus life loss) and should basically do the same thing.
Other thoughts are Manifold Key is generally the better card compared to Voltaic Key. I know there's technically a line with Power Artifact, Rings of Brighthearth and a mana rock that can produce more than 1 mana however this is quite niche compared to the potential unblockable card advantage that you can get from Tymna.
You can add Birthing Pod here if you want which lets you pod Thrasios into Trinket Mage (getting Lion's Eye Diamond) and then into Auriok Salvagers and with Key you can do it in one turn. I run this line in my thrasios deck and have been pretty happy with it.