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Sidisi, Brood Tyrant: A cEDH Primer

A very warm welcome to all! The following is a detailed primer for our legendary naga commander. This primer has taken quite some time to prepare, and it is my understanding that with the printing of new cards, coupled with bans/unbans this deck and primer will never truly be finished. With that said it will be updated as quickly as possible if changes in the commander environment change.

Who I Am

I’m Snax_n_staX (you can also call me Kam)! I’m relatively new to EDH, as I’ve only been playing for a little over a year. I started off collecting green cards that I liked based off the artwork (loved the idea of Mother Nature calling upon the biggest and fiercest monsters to pummel her enemies into submission). Then I started playing 60 card decks with no synergy; they were really just a collection of cards I was given or had bought and made something out of them. I quickly became bored of this and that’s when I was introduced to Commander. I became attached to the idea of a powerful legendary creature leading an army into battle. However, as with my 60 card decks I saw that my decks were slow and weren’t really all that effective. I started using resources like EDHrec to improve my lists. Going through the lists I saw myself being drawn to the more powerful (and usually more expensive) cards. Slowly but surely my decks became more competitive, killing the table much more quickly and consistently. I was later able to find groups on Reddit and Discord that were of great help to me. They included many players, some of which have made the best decks in the format. As a final word, I’d like to thank Lilbrudder for their insight in making the deck, as well as helping me to look at different strategies and angles to victory. It was very much appreciated ❤️.

Justifying Tyranny

Sidisi, Brood Tyrant is a powerful commander without question. Here’s why:

  1. Being in Sultai colours (, a.k.a. BUG) gives us access to the best colours in EDH and arguably the best colours in Magic overall.

  2. She allows us to mill ourselves. Essentially this gives us the ability to Entomb when she enters the battlefield or attacks. This will become important in a later section, so don’t go away.

  3. Creature tokens are created whenever a creature is put into our graveyard from our library. With the creature count in this deck we can generate an army. However this is merely flavourful. As with the previous point, the use of these tokens will be explained in a later section.

”The Sultai emulate the ruthlessness of the dragon; the fang is their symbol, showing their enemies that they are always ready to strike and spread their venomous plans. The clan values ruthlessness and spares no thought for the safety of troops, who are easily replaceable zombies themselves—or fuel for new zombies.”

As khan, our commander is the pure embodiment of the Sultai. She dealt with her enemies through force and trickery. With her at the helm of our deck, we will aim to do the same.

Plan Of Attack

This deck aims to win quickly through various means. Depending on the opening hand, even turn one! Alas, EDH is a multiplayer format, so expect to face resistance when trying to go off. If our initial attempt at victory is thwarted, you can always try again using Regrowth effects like Eternal Witness to get key cards back. If that second attempt fails, look to control our opponents. Unlike Derevi, Empyrial Tactician which utilizes stax, prison or hatebear cards like Winter Orb or Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite to slow the game down and achieve victory through locking opponents out, we have a full suite of permission magic and removal cards to deal with our opponents. The beauty of our commander is how quickly she can switch between being a lightning fast combo deck and controlling the game, even bringing it to a standstill. With our selection of artifact and creature ramp, we can play card advantage spells like Dark Confidant , or even Sidisi can come into play relatively early. Using her ETB and attack triggers to mill ourselves we can put value creatures like Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur into our graveyard, a great target for reanimation to ultimately win the game. However, we will need to use her attack trigger carefully as to not mill too many cards into our grave, or to ensure that we draw lands and counter magic if we are in need of them. Assess threats and be ready to deal with them.

A few strategies exist in this deck to win the game the first one is also the fastest, and is a strategy that has changed the cEDH landscape. It is known as Flash Hulk (Flash + Protean Hulk ).

Steps:

  1. Cast Flash , putting Protean Hulk into play.
  2. Do not pay the difference in mana that is mentioned on Flash .
  3. Hulk will die, allowing us to get 6 CMC worth of creatures directly into play.
  4. Get Phyrexian Delver and Viscera Seer and put them into play.
  5. Delver will return the Hulk to play from your graveyard.
  6. Sacrifice Hulk to the Seer’s ability, allowing you to get another 6 CMC worth of creatures.
  7. Get Walking Ballista and Mikaeus, the Unhallowed and put them directly into play. The ballista will be a 1/1 due to Mikaeus’ buffing ability.
  8. Sacrifice ballista to the Seer. It will return to play due to Mikaeus granting ‘Undying’ to other creatures you control, with a +1/+1 counter. It is now a 2/2.
  9. Remove a +1/+1 counter from ballista to ping an opponent in the face. We are now back at Step 8.
  10. Rinse and repeat until each of your opponents is dead.

Keep in mind that we have yet another Hulk Pile that should be of note:

  1. Cast Flash , putting Protean Hulk into play.
  2. Do not pay the difference in mana that is mentioned on Flash .
  3. Hulk will die, allowing us to get 6 CMC worth of creatures directly into play.
  4. We search our library for Laboratory Maniac and Spellseeker , putting them into play.
  5. With the ETB effect from the latter we search our library again for Tainted Pact .
  6. We can then cast it, allowing us to exile our entire library and winning the next time we draw a card.

Particular attention should be paid to the following facts: - The previous Hulk pile allows us to dodge graveyard hate and, with Flash Hulk allowing us to win at instant speed, win on our draw step

Another strategy to victory is through the use of Food Chain .

Steps:

  1. Ensure that Food Chain is in play and that you have a cast-from-exile (CFE) creature in your hand or, better yet, in play.
  2. Cast the CFE creature if it is in your hand. If it is already on the battlefield, remove it from the game with Food Chain. In this deck, Eternal Scourge is our card of choice. This will add 4 mana of any colour to your mana pool.
  3. Cast the CFE creature from exile. You will have 1 mana floating in your mana pool.
  4. Repeat Steps 2 and 3 infinitely. This will give you infinite mana of all 3 colours. With this mana, you can cast a Walking Ballista , making it a 10000/10000 (or an arbitrarily large number) and kill the table using its activated ability. Note that if the ballista is in play, you can use the Food Chain mana to pump it up and kill the table as well.
  5. If we don’t have a ballista in our hand to cast we can infinitely cast our commander and exile her to the command zone using Food Chain. This will mill our entire library (remember what I said earlier?) and give us a certain number of zombie creature tokens (remember what I said earlier?).
  6. Dread Return will be put into our graveyard. We can then cast it for its flashback cost (sacrificing the zombie tokens) to return any creature we wish from our graveyard to play. We can cast ballista and kill the table. Or we can use our other win condition of Laboratory Maniac .
  7. We can then cast a card draw spell like Ponder or activate an ability like Cephalid Coliseum to draw a card from an empty library and win.

It may occur that our deck doesn't cooperate with us. We aren't drawing the cards we need, or we're short on land. Being as resilient as we are, we have an easy fix to this problem and his name is Razaketh, the Foulblooded . This creature is an instant speed tutor at the cost of another creature and 2 life points. Recall the tokens that our lovely commander made from milling ourselves? Well we can use these tokens as fodder to Razaketh's ability. It may happen that we don't get any tokens from our commander. This is where Life comes into play. Turning our lands into creatures essentially feeds our Razaketh, allowing us to tutor and ultimately win the game. Death is also really good if we have a juicy graveyard target, such as a Consecrated Sphinx . Razaketh is an excellent card that not only grabs the missing combo pieces that we need, but can get ourselves protection or removal as well.

The mentioned combos are easily assembled with little mana and leaves us with resources to deal with any opponent that would try to disrupt us.

If things aren’t going our way, we aren’t drawing the right cards for the situation, or we keep getting disrupted, we can move to our final win condition of combat damage. It’s definitely not ideal and should only be used as a final resort. However it can be highly effective. We have large creatures that can crush our opponents to dust, as well as creature token generation that can be used to keep up blockers, or swing in for an alpha strike.

With Laboratory Maniac as a win condition in this deck, we must beg the question: should we use the ‘forbidden tutors’? The answer is a resounding yes.

Tainted Pact , Demonic Consultation and Plunge into Darkness truly reflect the idea of black magic: achieving a goal, no matter the price. These cards allow us to find the answers we need when we need them. In doing so, we end up exiling cards from our deck. This is a huge advantage because in, say, searching for Food Chain we can exile a CFE creature, doubling up as a tutor and readying is for a win.

Nonetheless, especially when using Demonic Consultation we risk exiling our LabMan or our Food Chain, or any other card that may be useful to us potentially later on in the game. It is for this reason that we run a mainboard Tainted Pact with a sideboard Demonic Consultation in case we are in a situation where a LabMan win is the best option we should opt for more opportunities to secure our victory.

Plunge Into Darkness is tantalizing, paying a huge sum of life to get a very specific card in our deck. However, through many hours of play testing it has proven not as effective as the previously mentioned tutors. For this reason we have chosen to omit it.

Strengths

This deck is incredibly quick and versatile, able to deal with most matchups quite easily. Access to green gives us ramp in the form of mana dorks like Arbor Elf and Birds of Paradise . Access to blue gives us counter magic and cantrips like Force of Will and Preordain . Access to black gives us tutoring and card advantage like Demonic Tutor and Dark Confidant . As well as this, a reasonably costed commander means that Sidisi can come out quickly and, if removed, can be played again without too much mana being spent.

Weaknesses

Only 1 basic land is run in this deck. If an opponent is known to run a Blood Moon do everything in your power to counter it or remove it. It will drastically hinder you and your chances of winning. Our deck is also quite reliant on our graveyard so cards like Rest in Peace or Scavenging Ooze will end you. We run a high number of noncreature spells so be weary of Ruric Thar, the Unbowed or Thalia, Guardian of Thraben . The new Collector Ouphe and cards like it stop the ballista from being activated. Watch out for that too! Of course many other forms of hate can be used against this deck. The previously mentioned cards are ones that I have personally encountered frequently.

The Golden Fang

The only other Sultai commander that can compete with Sidisi is Tasigur, the Golden Fang . With an activated ability that allows for the reuse of counter magic and removal, as well as a source of political leverage, Tasigur is a powerful commander that is able to rival Sidisi. With an infinite mana combo Tasigur is able to loop spells and kill an entire table. His ability to delve away unnecessary cards in his grave makes him cheaper to cast, even if he’s been removed. Not to mention, he is also a bigger creature than Sidisi. However, Tasigur is traditionally built as a control list primarily, playing a game of attrition with its opponents until he can combo out and his opponents have exhausted all possible options of winning. Control is a very difficult game style, as EDH is a multiplayer format and controlling 3 other players is definitely a challenge. Having Tasigur out helps to ensure the consistency of the deck, while having him in the command zone makes the deck weaker as the Tasigur player will have a harder time digging up answers. Sidisi is poised to kill quickly, while Tasigur looks to the long game for victory. In my opinion I believe that both commanders are equally powerful and piloting either of them really depends on how one likes to play. The choice is yours.

Templates

This build of Sidisi is my own build based on my experience playing and with my particular meta in mind. It is important to note that it is subject to change as different things come up in my meta, or in EDH as a format. I encourage different builds that are unique to each player. With that being said there are a number of lists that I’d like to point others to that might be more for them:


All Nightmare Long (SBT Primer)

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Demon Tyrant

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SBT Combo

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Second Draft

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Each of these decks has its own strengths and weaknesses, but I highly recommend speaking to their creators as they are very knowledgeable able their own decks and the format as a whole.

Included here are a Derevi deck and a Tasigur deck as they were mentioned in this primer. It is best to ask any questions about these decks to their creators as they know their decks better than anyone else. They are different builds and very interesting. As said before, their creators are very knowledgeable on the format as a whole and can answer your questions better than I ever could.


b i r d w i z a r d [2.0] (cEDH Derevi Primer)

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Scepter Control

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I enjoyed making this primer and I hope everyone enjoys reading it. Feel free to share it, upvote it, and write any comments or questions. I would be more than happy to answer them. If I said something incorrectly please let me know and I will fix it right away. Enjoy!

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Comments

Iceman76 exactly! High Market has saved me quite a number of times by reanimating Protean Hulk and then sacrificing him to the land :)

December 14, 2019 1:59 p.m.

If you did put in Force of Negation would you think swapping Eternal Scourge for Misthollow Griffin would be worth it? Reason for the Scourge to Misthollow switch is to have another blue target to exile for both Forces.

January 21, 2020 8:26 p.m.

Skeeledon thanks for the interest in the deck and absolutely! It would help to put it into exile (furthering Food Chain lines) and give me the ability to counter a spell with FoN. Thanks for pointing that out :)

January 22, 2020 1:34 a.m.

I have a big update to consolidate card choices, and offer a different outlet that gives you another angle to pivot on. Thassa's Oracle+Blood Pet+Spellseeker+Demonic Consultation this hulk pile is not reliant on graveyard nor having an outside draw, and get this Thassa's Oracle+Demonic Consultation only costs one more mana than casting the flash for hulk pile. I run the food chain package because it layers nicely, my outlet is to mill library with eldrazi titans in library, and since each instance of milling over an eldrazi creates a zombie it avoids the 4horseman slow play ruling. I like to reanimate eternal witness and get back a Concordant Crossroads to give 5 million zombies haste. The other option is to reanimate The Gitrog Monster from Dread Return which with foodchain let's us draw our deck to play out the game however we want due to running blood pet to change the mana from food chain into "cast anything" mana from there we play out the deck via haste enabled dorks and sacrifice triggers so we can win however is most convenient. I can send you my list if you would like to compare and update this primer, or plx halp me make my own primer.

February 5, 2020 10:16 a.m.

Shrektheogrelord thanks for the interest in the deck and sorry for the late reply. I actually find your pile very interesting and honestly could have won me a few games in my playgroup (graveyard hate is rough lol). And definitely send me your list :) I’d love to see it!

February 25, 2020 10:06 p.m.

From your primer: "Note that if the ballista is in play, you can use the Food Chain mana to pump it up and kill the table as well." Is this correct? I thought FC mana could only be used to cast creature spells, not activate abilities?

April 8, 2020 2:20 p.m.

Snax_n_stax I have a list however I need to convert it from my paper list to an electronic one, and at that point I do not have a primer, but I am always willing to help the cedh community and contribute decks and spicy tech if it isnt already posted.

April 24, 2020 8:41 a.m.

(http://decks.deckedbuilder.com/d/2020-04-24/Q2s-qxbF0kilicrgHIkiHA==) This is the list I'm currently on. There is a razacats style win condition with food chain, by foodchaining sidisi over and over we get lots of zombies, reanimating razaketh let's us tutor as much as we want, but we go negative on life, if life total is a constraint we can use razaketh to tutor up uro, and use him to gain three life, he kills himself we foodchain until we hit an eldrazi titan in the bin and then sacrifice another zombie to razaketh to tutor uro again to be positive on life and cards in hand, and added benefit of getting lands into play so you can go off without lion's eye diamond, or the use of artifacts if that is currently a restriction, inevitably you will draw your deck this way, and can go off with Oracle and consultation, or a wincon of your choice combat damage always being a fun choice since it involves running only one card Concordant Crossroads with a bunch of combos/cards we already want to run and being one mana makes it not cost much to run as far as opportunity cost if the card itself, it also helps us in razaketh lines where foodchain and lions eye diamond are unavailable. As a maybe board option I have riftsweeper because in my meta grave hate is prevalent so I have it in my list, but for the most part its avoided by having as many instant speed options to discard or bin an eldrazi titan in response to graveyard hate ie hapless researcher, frantic search, entomb, jace vryn's prodigy, and cryptbreaker. Cryptbreaker is here because getting two zombies with sidisi, and/or using his ability to discard a solid reanimate target is very easy so we basically get a one mana phyrexian arena, it is the reason I didnt initially play dark confidant, because we already have quite a lot of draw and filtering without it,and the life total becomes a problem with how midrange my meta is so I have opted for the card that does both draw and graveyard setup in a compact one cost card. If I could make an organized primer i would, but this is what i got for now lol enjoy the read.

April 24, 2020 9:51 a.m.

will there be a deck upgrade without Flash Protean Hulk?

May 7, 2020 6:48 a.m.

Snax_n_staX, Sidisi onions This decklist was made by me, and I will be happy to discuss it with you

May 18, 2020 2:22 p.m.

Hey cool build! Definitely a +1 from me.

I'd recommend you try out Mesmeric Orb .

This could be really good with this deck!

December 9, 2019 6:50 p.m.

Awesome! Thanks for the fast feedback. I have a question though. I read your primer multiple times, but I'm having trouble understanding bringing back ballista with dread return. Wouldn't the ballista die if it came back with 0 counters on it? This is in the food chain part of the primer.

December 9, 2019 7:08 p.m.

Spinal_Remains No it wouldn’t! We would have FC in play and a CFE creature which would allow us to create a loop of infinite mana. With the infinite mana we can cast our commander, and then exile it to FC. And in casting Sidisi a bunch of times we end up milling ourselves and filling up our grave AND getting creature tokens. Dread Return will be in our grave but we can use its flashback cost by sacrificing some of the tokens we created with Sidisi entering the battlefield a million times. We have infinite mana from before, so we can use that to cast Ballista for a huge number and kill the table :) it wouldn’t be cast as a 0/0 but as a creature with an arbitrarily large power and toughness because we would be using our infinite FC mana. Hope that clears things up!

December 11, 2019 11:20 a.m.

alechodgin23 thanks for the interest in the deck and really appreciate the +1! It means a lot :) and there’s actually a pretty great combo that uses Basalt Monolith and Mesmeric Orb that infinitely mills you out, or even your opponents too (I’ve seen that done a few times especially since the other players had some tap/untap shenanigans lol). Before I made this list that combo was in the deck but I started to realize that the amount of mana I needed to pull it off was a bit harder to achieve and it makes using the Flash Hulk package and FC package useless. That combo was also really vulnerable as well. I decided to take it out. But running just the Mesmeric Orb wouldn’t be a bad idea (just need to be careful with what you mill into your grave as it’s harder to control)! If you can, give it a test run and see how it goes. If it goes well let me know. I’ll do the same and I might make some changes. Thanks for the help by the way!

December 11, 2019 11:27 a.m.

I totally understand what you're saying. But, dread return says return target creature from your graveyard to the battlefield. Not cast it from your graveyard. Which means it'll return to the battlefield from your graveyard as a 0/0. Unless there's a chance to pump it with the infinite mana before it dies? Or I'm missing something.

December 11, 2019 1:09 p.m.

Spinal_Remains: I imagine the line is to Dread Return targeting Eternal Witness . That lets you return Walking Ballista to your hand and cast it for a million.

Snax_n_staX: Would you be able to add a section/note on Tainted Pact ? It fits so well into both combo routes, and I want to make sure I'm not missing anything. It lets you find Food Chain while possibly exiling Eternal Scourge , is basically an A+B combo with Laboratory Maniac , and gives you a Flash Hulk pile of LabMan + Spellseeker if you want to avoid graveyard hate. Is there anything else?

December 12, 2019 5:40 p.m.

Spinal_Remains my bad! I wasn’t thinking straight but it’s exactly what Iceman76 said. Please forgive me

December 13, 2019 2:19 p.m.

Iceman76 thanks for clearing up my mistake by the way! And thanks for the interest in the deck :) I will add the section in. And you’re absolutely right about everything you said! Thank you again for your help ❤️

December 13, 2019 2:21 p.m.

Iceman76 and I think that’s about it! You’ve covered everything. Let me know if you have any suggestions :)

December 13, 2019 2:23 p.m.

What is the High Market for? Just an emergency way to sac Hulk?

December 14, 2019 11:30 a.m.

Little confused as to why this is in the help section. It looks very tuned and tested.

August 29, 2019 10:46 p.m.

RNR_Gaming I’m happy to hear that! I still have doubts about my deck. My main one is about the inclusion of Hermit Druid since I run so many nonbasics. Or even changing what I get with Protean Hulk. Any way I can better execute my combos. I’m open to anything:)

August 31, 2019 6:27 a.m.

My best advice is to play test until you're sick of the deck and find a cedh discord to discus the commander in more depth. A lot of choices are meta dependent but there is always an optimal line.

August 31, 2019 12:53 p.m.

RNR_Gaming I agree with what you said. I’ll get on it :) thanks again for the feedback. Let me know if there is anything else!

August 31, 2019 1:38 p.m.

Any updates with eldrain?

November 24, 2019 11:03 p.m.

Spinal_Remains hey thanks for the interest in the deck :) so far I haven’t seen any cards that would be useful in the deck and with the current meta. Did you have any suggestions for me? Sorry for the late answer by the way!

December 4, 2019 2:53 p.m.

No worries! I love UBx decks and already have Kess and Zur built. I wanted to build a food chain flash hulk deck, and your Sidisi list looks fun. Besides drown from the loch, I don't know what else could go in.

December 4, 2019 11:13 p.m.

Drown in the Loch*

December 4, 2019 11:14 p.m.

Spinal_Remains honestly didn’t even think of that card! It seems niche to me but with all the fetching as well as whatnot that goes to the grave it could definitely be used. The may be a bit odd but the mana base I’ve made can definitely accommodate that. I’ll give it a shot. I’ve already made the changes.

And I would say Sidisi is definitely the best Food Chain/Flash Hulk commander that I know of (besides Tymna and Thrasios of course, but I can’t think of any other commanders that would work well with both). Thanks for the help :)

December 7, 2019 8:03 a.m.

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