Exile a creature you control: Add X mana of any one color to your mana pool, where X is the exiled creature's converted mana cost plus one. Spend this mana only to cast creature spells.
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- Eternal Scourge + Food Chain
- Food Chain + Misthollow Griffin
- Food Chain + Prossh, Skyraider of Kher + Sarkhan Vol
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Food Chain Discussion
2 months ago
Edit. Food chain says exile. Nevermind.
2 months ago
I could be wrong about this, but I don't think you can use the Food Chain mana you generate to activate Golos's ability, as food chain mana can only be used to cast creature spells, not activate abilities. There are still definitely land combos you can get by casting Golos infinitely, like getting out Dark Depths and then getting a Vesuva as a copy of depths, sacrificing the original to the legend rule, and sacrificing the copy to get a 20/20 Marit lage to the field. If you want to include guildgates, you could throw in a Maze's End plus anything that untaps a land, fetch out all your gates, get the maze's end, and untap it to just win on the spot. You could also throw in a worldgorger or dramatic scepter combo in order to get infinite mana and activate Golos infinitely, and then you can find altar of the brood and food chain to win off of that. You could also exile your library and cast thoracle or a lab man to win off of that.
3 months ago
I have looked at cEDH and often thought what it would take. From the looks of it, you are looking at a The First Sliver + Food Chain for cEDH sliver fun. I also think your interaction and counter magic needs to be on point for it think Force of Will , Force of Negation , Mana Drain , Fierce Guardianship etc. Probably also looking at OG duals and full set of fetches. Just a bit too rich for my blood lol. Oh, and then you got your fast mana like Chrome Mox , Mox Opal , Mox Diamond and Mana Crypt etc. Only way I'm doing all of that, is through proxies lol
3 months ago
Nerdytimesorwhatever appreciate the feedback - got some responses for ya.
Vindicate (in my opinion) has more value in this deck as it removes any permanent without causing a loss of life that could be spent elsewhere. Anguished Unmaking is a great suggestion - now you've got me thinking about making the switch.
Illusionist's Bracers (again, personal opinion) has been pretty powerful in this deck, allowing you to tutor two enchantments at once (duh) and usually win with that interaction. I will agree, it is a bit slow/clunky for cEDH, especially with the 3 mana equip cost, but I've been able to consistently get it out turn 1/2 and have it equipped before Zur swings turn 2/3. All that aside, it is almost useless to draw into turn 4/5 unless the board gets wiped. There are a couple other targets for equipping this as well, with Dark Confidant and Hullbreacher coming to mind.
Diplomatic Immunity is usually the second enchantment I tutor out (after Necropotence of course) and has always provided additional security for Zur. It also combos well with the other equipment in this deck, and the nuances of shroud when Zur tutors out an equipment.
Daybreak Coronet , All That Glitters , and Phyresis are essentially a back-up plan for the Thoracle/TP/DC win condition. The look on an opponent's face when you swing for 20+ infect in an esper deck is always amusing as well.
Great point about Tainted Pact . Four Islands has never gotten in the way of it working for me, although you are absolutely right that in some cases that would stop it completely. I'll definitely have to revisit this and make some changes.
To be honest, this is the first time I've ever seen Spell Snare - need to add that ASAP.
Shimmer Myr is an excellent card, but this deck doesn't run any lines that win with artifacts aside from the obvious Isochron Scepter . Maybe I'm missing something, but most Shimmer/Zur decks focus more on artifacts than this does.
I've got a vault copy of Mox Diamond , but am too scared to use it at the $800 price point. Proxying might be the move for that.
Miscast is another I've been debating, but haven't found a spot for it yet.
I threw Drannith Magistrate in here almost immediately after it was release to support the stax(ish) undertones of this deck - completely agree how absurd that card is.
Thanks again for the feedback!
4 months ago
Cool deck!! I like that commander combination.
Might consider Devoted Druid , +1 and -1 cancel out so you could turn +1 counters into mana.
Also if combat is your wincon, Beastmaster Ascension is playable even if not synergistic.
I'm not sure what misthollow griffin does in your deck as i dont see Food Chain . I probably wouldnt run that combo and would run synergy card like Sarulf, Realm Eater or value card like Rishkar's Expertise or another ramp/draw card.
Just my thoughts cheers and have fun!!!
4 months ago
So, that's the thing about cards these days - maybe 1 or 2 of them hold value. Recently, I opened a box pulled a borderless foil land - 8 bucks and a non foil borderless planeswalker - 2 bucks. Cards which are a 1/15 pack chance of getting and they're barely worth the pack.
With all the product variations and more packs being cracked a card needs to see play across all formats to demand that 30+ price tag or be HEAVILY played in commander like The Great Henge . You can predict where a card is going to land value wise by examining Thone of Eldraine; that's when prices got all wonky due to the collector boosters/vip stuff they're cranking out. It's a great time to be a player but an awful time to be a collector - always buy singles. Also, that new secret lair will probably push it down a bit further at first but it'll probably settle at that 10-15 mark.
Pick them up at 10 or less if you want them ;) they're a great addition to any landfall deck and make a decent Food Chain commander.
4 months ago
For the Stompy version I would start by cutting Ruination Guide, Pitiless Plunderer, Sifter of Skulls, Blight Herder, Brood Butcher, Emrakrul’s Hatcher, Catacomb Sifter, Drowner of Hope, Awakening Zone, Etchings of the Chosen, Eyeless Watcher.
If you put in Rings of Brighthearth it combos with Basalt Monolith to make infinite mna. Both Monolith and Rings are 3 CmC and artifacts so they are tutorable with the same tutors you have in here for Fist of Suns. With infinite colourless mana Dimensional Infiltrator will be able to exile your opponents libraries, Essence Depleter can drain out the table, and Prophet of Distortion will let you draw your library. Rings doesn't have a lot of synergy with other cards in your list BUT if Golos was your commander it has a seriously powerful ability that would be awesome to copy.
Eternal Scourge + Food Chain is another combo you can consider which will make infinite COLOURED mana for creature spells and have infinite EtB and LtB triggers so this will end a game with Flayer Drone or Vela the Night-Clad in play. If you wanted to abuse the mana you would need Cloudstone Curio or a non-eldrazi bouncing creature as all the eldrazi bouncers are processors and it is unlikely your opponents will have an infinite pile of exiled cards.
I suggest adding in Pathrazer of Ulamog , Barrage Tyrant , World Breaker , Dread Defiler , Endless One , Not of This World , Rapacious One , Reality Smasher , Thought-Knot Seer , Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre , Ulamog's Crusher , & Vile Redeemer as suitable eldrazi stompy options. Barrage Tyrant and Dread Defiler get a special mention because Fling is an amazing effect that can give you the reach you need to close out a game or off a player hiding behind a pillowfort.
Here is a list of support cards off the top of my head: Sarkhan's Unsealing , Temur Ascendancy , Commander's Plate , Mana Maze , Cultivate , Kodama's Reach , Rampant Growth , Ugin, the Spirit Dragon , Everflowing Chalice , Thran Dynamo , Rishkar's Expertise , Return of the Wildspeaker , Garruk's Uprising , Hunting Grounds , Sneak Attack , Animar, Soul of Elements , Mana Geyser , Mirari's Wake , Ugin, the Ineffable , Show and Tell , Terror of the Peaks , Warstorm Surge , Alena, Kessig Trapper , Ilysian Caryatid , Momentous Fall , Greater Good , Sacellum Godspeaker , Selvala, Heart of the Wilds , The Great Henge , Eldritch Evolution , Energy Tap .
4 months ago
So, Tazari was the defacto Food Chain commander before niv, niv was short lived too; The First Sliver took its' place and now ukimma and it are fighting for a titan slot. Anyways, I'd use this list or water it down to taste and budget; you cannot ever go wrong with a shaper build.