Exile a creature you control: Add X mana of any one color to your mana pool, where X is the exiled creature's converted mana cost plus one. Spend this mana only to cast creature spells.
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- Eternal Scourge + Food Chain
- Food Chain + Misthollow Griffin
- Food Chain + Prossh, Skyraider of Kher + Sarkhan Vol
|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Food Chain occurrence in decks from the last year
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Food Chain Discussion
1 week ago
Nerdytimesorwhatever appreciate the feedback - got some responses for ya.
Vindicate (in my opinion) has more value in this deck as it removes any permanent without causing a loss of life that could be spent elsewhere. Anguished Unmaking is a great suggestion - now you've got me thinking about making the switch.
Illusionist's Bracers (again, personal opinion) has been pretty powerful in this deck, allowing you to tutor two enchantments at once (duh) and usually win with that interaction. I will agree, it is a bit slow/clunky for cEDH, especially with the 3 mana equip cost, but I've been able to consistently get it out turn 1/2 and have it equipped before Zur swings turn 2/3. All that aside, it is almost useless to draw into turn 4/5 unless the board gets wiped. There are a couple other targets for equipping this as well, with Dark Confidant and Hullbreacher coming to mind.
Diplomatic Immunity is usually the second enchantment I tutor out (after Necropotence of course) and has always provided additional security for Zur. It also combos well with the other equipment in this deck, and the nuances of shroud when Zur tutors out an equipment.
Daybreak Coronet , All That Glitters , and Phyresis are essentially a back-up plan for the Thoracle/TP/DC win condition. The look on an opponent's face when you swing for 20+ infect in an esper deck is always amusing as well.
Great point about Tainted Pact . Four Islands has never gotten in the way of it working for me, although you are absolutely right that in some cases that would stop it completely. I'll definitely have to revisit this and make some changes.
To be honest, this is the first time I've ever seen Spell Snare - need to add that ASAP.
Shimmer Myr is an excellent card, but this deck doesn't run any lines that win with artifacts aside from the obvious Isochron Scepter . Maybe I'm missing something, but most Shimmer/Zur decks focus more on artifacts than this does.
I've got a vault copy of Mox Diamond , but am too scared to use it at the $800 price point. Proxying might be the move for that.
Miscast is another I've been debating, but haven't found a spot for it yet.
I threw Drannith Magistrate in here almost immediately after it was release to support the stax(ish) undertones of this deck - completely agree how absurd that card is.
Thanks again for the feedback!
3 weeks ago
Cool deck!! I like that commander combination.
Might consider Devoted Druid , +1 and -1 cancel out so you could turn +1 counters into mana.
Also if combat is your wincon, Beastmaster Ascension is playable even if not synergistic.
I'm not sure what misthollow griffin does in your deck as i dont see Food Chain . I probably wouldnt run that combo and would run synergy card like Sarulf, Realm Eater or value card like Rishkar's Expertise or another ramp/draw card.
Just my thoughts cheers and have fun!!!
3 weeks ago
So, that's the thing about cards these days - maybe 1 or 2 of them hold value. Recently, I opened a box pulled a borderless foil land - 8 bucks and a non foil borderless planeswalker - 2 bucks. Cards which are a 1/15 pack chance of getting and they're barely worth the pack.
With all the product variations and more packs being cracked a card needs to see play across all formats to demand that 30+ price tag or be HEAVILY played in commander like The Great Henge . You can predict where a card is going to land value wise by examining Thone of Eldraine; that's when prices got all wonky due to the collector boosters/vip stuff they're cranking out. It's a great time to be a player but an awful time to be a collector - always buy singles. Also, that new secret lair will probably push it down a bit further at first but it'll probably settle at that 10-15 mark.
Pick them up at 10 or less if you want them ;) they're a great addition to any landfall deck and make a decent Food Chain commander.
3 weeks ago
For the Stompy version I would start by cutting Ruination Guide, Pitiless Plunderer, Sifter of Skulls, Blight Herder, Brood Butcher, Emrakrul’s Hatcher, Catacomb Sifter, Drowner of Hope, Awakening Zone, Etchings of the Chosen, Eyeless Watcher.
If you put in Rings of Brighthearth it combos with Basalt Monolith to make infinite mna. Both Monolith and Rings are 3 CmC and artifacts so they are tutorable with the same tutors you have in here for Fist of Suns. With infinite colourless mana Dimensional Infiltrator will be able to exile your opponents libraries, Essence Depleter can drain out the table, and Prophet of Distortion will let you draw your library. Rings doesn't have a lot of synergy with other cards in your list BUT if Golos was your commander it has a seriously powerful ability that would be awesome to copy.
Eternal Scourge + Food Chain is another combo you can consider which will make infinite COLOURED mana for creature spells and have infinite EtB and LtB triggers so this will end a game with Flayer Drone or Vela the Night-Clad in play. If you wanted to abuse the mana you would need Cloudstone Curio or a non-eldrazi bouncing creature as all the eldrazi bouncers are processors and it is unlikely your opponents will have an infinite pile of exiled cards.
I suggest adding in Pathrazer of Ulamog , Barrage Tyrant , World Breaker , Dread Defiler , Endless One , Not of This World , Rapacious One , Reality Smasher , Thought-Knot Seer , Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre , Ulamog's Crusher , & Vile Redeemer as suitable eldrazi stompy options. Barrage Tyrant and Dread Defiler get a special mention because Fling is an amazing effect that can give you the reach you need to close out a game or off a player hiding behind a pillowfort.
Here is a list of support cards off the top of my head: Sarkhan's Unsealing , Temur Ascendancy , Commander's Plate , Mana Maze , Cultivate , Kodama's Reach , Rampant Growth , Ugin, the Spirit Dragon , Everflowing Chalice , Thran Dynamo , Rishkar's Expertise , Return of the Wildspeaker , Garruk's Uprising , Hunting Grounds , Sneak Attack , Animar, Soul of Elements , Mana Geyser , Mirari's Wake , Ugin, the Ineffable , Show and Tell , Terror of the Peaks , Warstorm Surge , Alena, Kessig Trapper , Ilysian Caryatid , Momentous Fall , Greater Good , Sacellum Godspeaker , Selvala, Heart of the Wilds , The Great Henge , Eldritch Evolution , Energy Tap .
1 month ago
So, Tazari was the defacto Food Chain commander before niv, niv was short lived too; The First Sliver took its' place and now ukimma and it are fighting for a titan slot. Anyways, I'd use this list or water it down to taste and budget; you cannot ever go wrong with a shaper build.
2 months ago
a possible game winning combo i just thought was using Food Chain + Eternal Scourge to add infinite and mana, then cast Tana, the Bloodsower N times, and then try to cast Jeska, Thrice Reborn with N Loyalty.
-X on her 2nd ability for trillions of damage to up to 3 any targets
2 months ago
Eternal77: You may not hit your CFE creature for sure, but that's all just part of the game. And adding an additional 3 tutors to the deck is nothing to scoff at.
The other thing is that Chulane will generally leverage Thassa's Oracle / Laboratory Maniac for the win, but has to assemble the food chain combo first and then go from there. The benefit that Ukkima has is that the deck can still run the Thassa's Oracle + Tainted Pact combo which gives you a very clean out and redundancy on Food Chain, while Chulane either still relies entirely on food chain (which isn't great) or you have to devote additonal slots to a non-overlapping combo to provide redundancy in the deck.
On top of this, Chulane also costs 5, so while he is an engine that can draw you cards, it's not he cheapest mana investment. The other part of it is that wile you will be running a higher creature count to try and leverage food chain/Chulane himself, most cEDH decks still have a relatively low creature count. So while you definitely can transform a mana dork into another card (which is awesome), it can still be a bit hit and miss.
2 months ago
Eternal77 with no black access, Chulane, Teller of Tales is a terrible Food Chain commander, he has only like 3 possible cards that can find food chain (Enlightened Tutor, Idyllic Tutor, and Drift of Phantasms) if a commander doesn't have black, it is not a good FC commander.