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Exile a creature you control: Add X mana of any one color to your mana pool, where X is the exiled creature's converted mana cost plus one. Spend this mana only to cast creature spells.
Food Chain Discussion
1 day ago
2 days ago
CallanBuckle64So the line goes
2) Cast Squee from Exile
3) Cast Korvold, Fae-Cursed King sacrificing Squee and drawing a card
4) Exile Korvold to Food Chain to return him to the command zone
5) Cast Squee from the Graveyard
6) Cast Korvold and repeat step 4,5, and 6 until you net all the sacrifices to draw the deck or draw Dockside Sabertooth lines and start looping!
4 days ago
Colonel_Kink In my own opinion, the most consistent way to combo isn't after interaction is used, but whilst it's being used. Respond with Flash-Hulk in response to the counter-war over Isochron Scepter .
Rarely does an entire board run out of answers, rather, they run out of specific answers or the resources to use them, like if they are tapped out.
Now, separate from simply discussing individual deck's ability to compete, many, many more factors come into play.
In total, I believe the core things a deck needs can be simplified to 3 things:
How well it is tuned to its meta.
How well the pilot is able to judge tells, evaluate board states, play politics, memorize cards, sequence plays, and mulligan properly.
How efficient in card quality the deck is.
The first simply means whether or not the deck is easily hated out and how well it can hate out other decks in the game. If you want to play a Shimmer Zur Storm list, you want to be able to know the metagame doesn't run a large package of anti-storm cards like Damping Sphere , or too much in the way of anti-creature. You also need to know roughly the styles of decks it will face, to run proper interaction, like do I run Delay against Food Chain or Flusterstorm against counter-wars and storm builds?
The second is the pilot's skills. Obviously skill takes a major role in wins, but in cEDH there is an incredible amount of ceiling that can be reached that many people don't realize. From playing poker, you can easily tell how much tells have to do with reading opponents' hands. Tells such as if an opponent often layers cards from low-cmc front to high-cmc back, if they read cards that they don't know, and you can use this extra information to really get better winrates.
Additionally, while most cEDH players can properly sequence turns, see detailed lines, and know most played cards, I still see veterans just miss things that seem relatively obvious, but I realize are shortcutted so often that they aren't. I went recently against an Emry, Lurker of the Loch artifact storm build, who milled a Fatestitcher and Lotus Petal when it entered on turn two. An opponent on Tana and Tymna Blood Pod dropped a Trinisphere , and when it got back to the Emry player they dropped Mirran Spy and had 2 mana left. I knew they had infinite mana, but they didn't realize it.
They thought because of Trinisphere they couldn't loop Lotus Petal , Emry, Lucker of the Loch, and Mirran Spy , but because Fatestitcher could come back to tap Trinisphere down, it could. They passed, and because of a Windfall from me, we saw they had a Stroke of Genius , Mental Misstep , and some more protective elements needed to win. They just didn't know how Trinisphere worked, and never remembered the 'untapped' clause.
The last is simply saying to run a good deck with good cards. Often this implies if you have the other two you can get to the point where you are effective in a game, with the interaction and well-tuned wincon of the first point, and can close out the game.
5 days ago
Not gonna lie, Niv is definitely not the best commander for a food chain deck most especially since the 5 colors makes it hard to be as consistent as you could be.
Regardless, I'll say these things:
It seems like if Food Chain is countered or destroyed, you can't really do anything? I saw only Noxious Revival to get it back and that was it. Considering you're in 5 colors and not running the most counterspells, at a regular cEDH table, that isn't going to resolve. If it does, it will be Nature's Claim 'd almost immediately. As much as finding it with all of the tutors you have will be easy as well as getting something like Squee, the Immortal into somewhere that you can cast him, you're going to have trouble playing all of it. People will not let most of it resolve unless you find a really good opportunity or are playing with lower power decks. I don't say this to hate the deck, but I am saying you need to find a way to either:
- Protect Food Chain with counterspells
- Have multiple ways of getting it back
Either of those would vastly improve the deck.
Best of luck!
1 week ago
Thank you fadelightningmm & . You're right in that Chulane is more geared toward combo, but I'm wondering if he'd be a worthy value engine on his own in a generic non-combo creature based ETB deck. The reason I ask is because I've been running Roon for years and although he can be effective, he can also be slow and relies on having a few ETB dorks out. I'm thinking that swapping him out for Chulane with the exact same deck could add some gas/value.
I may have just answered my own question but I'm still curious to hear if anyone else has tried this strategy with Chulane because most of the Chulane decks I see on here seem to aim to combo out with Food Chain etc. I should probably just try it out, see how it plays.
1 week ago
Nah man, Food Chain Ayula is a tier 0 deck, being mono-green it is impossible that it doesn't hit 200 mana turn one, and all of that mana being green allowing you to cast Food Chain and Bear-ternal Scourge to cast Ayula and infinitely pump it, fighting all opponents, getting infinite mana to dump into the Walking Ballista that was fetched with your signature spell; Enter the Bearfinite, which draws your whole bear deck and places it onto the field, giving you no maximum bear size.
This deck also has Veil of Summer as its second signature spell for the partner bearmander, Yeva, in bear mode. This means since you have 2,000 mana turn zero you can flash in all of your bears and protect them from 0 mana countermagic.
Now that you have your bears, infinitely large everything and 20,000 mana turn negative one you can then cast Mother Bear to loop it with Bearshnod's Altar and Pull from bear-ternity, to gain infinitely more bears, infinitely pumping them all with your infinitly big Ayula.
Turn negative infinity, instant 100% win. Even has a 100% winrate in the mirror.
1 week ago
Thank you for checking out the deck list RebelliousDink, but as you can probably tell, I had budget restrictions, and tried as hard as I could to base the deck around Food Chain . In an amped-up version of the deck, your idea with Aluren is simply amazing, and works a lot better than this. I would include it, but I wanted the deck to be based around food chain, and while I could cut some cards and improve, this is more of a gimmicky deck than a actual combo deck, for instance I am running next to no tutors, fetch lands and such
2 weeks ago
Food Chain occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.01%