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- Ayara, First of Locthwain + Black Sun's Zenith + Nest of Scarabs
- Black Sun's Zenith + Generous Patron
- Black Sun's Zenith + Dusk Urchins
|Commander / EDH||Legal|
|Commander: Rule 0||Legal|
Black Sun's Zenith
Put X -1/-1 counters on each creature. Shuffle Black Sun's Zenith into its owner's library.
3 days ago
Sterling0528, thanks for commenting on the page and sharing your thoughts. My logic for running Phyrexian Scriptures is between flavor and having a proliferation target in addition to a semi-one sided boardwipe. But to answer your question there is only one choice for what card I select to replace it: Toxic Deluge. Getting around Indestructible, and not having to wait on the saga to get to II to get your wrath effect already make the previously mentioned a superior choice. Also, the life loss can be somewhat mitigated by Atraxa, Praetors' Voice under the right circumstances. You also reminded me that there was a reprint that has flavor text from Papa Yawgmoth, so I decided to swap in that instance of Toxic Deluge in for Phyrexian Scriptures as it maintains my flavor requirements.
There are however some honorable mentions I thought of in case Deluge isn't to your taste:
Culling Ritual in a more competitive meta can do wonders. I've seen this spell ramp a player in excess of 6 or 7 mana on a good turn. Depending on the shifts in my own meta I'm considering running this spell as well.
Black Sun's Zenith is a card I find genuinely interesting, one that I experimented with in an earlier iteration of the deck that I think deserves a revisit.
What I would replace Priests of Norn with? No idea. Honestly it's just a placeholder for a better infect creature who will hopefully be printed in the near future. I'm really holding my breath for a for a mono-white color shifted Skithiryx, the Blight Dragon like creature. Given that infect is parasitic, the slot needs to be reserved for an infect creature. On that same note both Grateful Apparition and Spike Weaver are slated to be replaced when better options are printed. My wishlist would be a monowhite creature with infect and proliferate, and another new infect creature that doubles as a stax piece that breaks parity through the proliferation of counters (like Tangle Wire on a body). One can dream though.
What other changes would you make with the deck? Thanks for commenting.
2 months ago
Just a recommendation, but I might recommend putting Avacyn, Angel of Hope in the 99 and making the newly spoiled Giada, Font of Hope the new commander. You can still play Avacyn most games, who you can tutor with Search for Glory and Thalia's Lancers, but your opponents won't know when she is coming, which will make her more powerful than if they know that she is your commander. Giada also will help ramp Avacyn and your other angels out, and make each of them far more powerful, and will come out on turn two every game. It might also allow you to play fewer board wipes and more angels, which could be a more fun playstyle for both you and your opponents.
Whether you do the above or not, Avacyn has a weakness when it comes to mass exile or bounce effects like Cyclonic Rift or Descend upon the Sinful, and anthem killers like Black Sun's Zenith. One way to avoid this is with mass blink cards like Cosmic Intervention, Eerie Interlude, and Semester's End, which can dodge any removal or board wipe while keeping your team available for blocking.
Since you have some life-gain matters cards, I'd lean more into it with spells that draw cards off of life-gain like Well of Lost Dreams, Dawn of Hope, and Cosmos Elixir. White needs all the draw it can get!
My deck isn't done yet (though the first version will be out in a few days when I get the cards). Nonetheless, here it is if you want ideas-Giada Angels Tribal I don't have Avacyn yet because I need a Christmas gift or store credit to swing it, but she will eventually go in!
3 months ago
Love me a mono black commander deck. Seeing as you're running Vampiric Tutor, I'm assuming you're not too budget restricted. You might try The Meathook Massacre instead of Black Sun's Zenith as it plays better into your life gain strategy. It's more than a little pricey right now, so I'd sideboard it until it comes out of standard.
5 months ago
Other good cards to hurry up the deaths of other creatures with slime counters on them would be the -/- cards black gets and some of the other boardwipes Massacre Wurm, Massacre Girl, Languish, Toxic Deluge, Black Sun's Zenith, Decree of Pain, Life's Finale, Plague Wind, or Killing Wave.
5 months ago
Fun list! I used to run a Lazav voltron build and I like how you have added incidental mill to most of your cards. Here are some ideas:
Darksteel Plate grants Lazav indestructible which combines so well with Lazav's natural hexproof. If you like that, then Worldslayer might be a fun bit of chaos to consider. And if you like swords, Sword of Body and Mind actually fits really well into the mill suite of cards you have. Whispersilk Cloak and Trailblazer's Boots could also be handy for evasion.
Slaughter Pact is great cheap removal that can save you in a pinch. And if you find you need more board wipe effects, Black Sun's Zenith & Toxic Deluge allow you to clear the board without killing Lazav.
I would totally play this list as-is. Thanks for sharing!
6 months ago
6 months ago
Other options for non-targeted removal besides the ones you have already mentioned are Cyclonic Rift and The Meathook Massacre. Less expensive options include Bontu's Last Reckoning or Black Sun's Zenith.
Another strategy is increasing the speed that you can assemble a game-winning combo, with more efficient tutors or mana rocks, which unfortunately are expensive but necessary to be more competitive. If you can assemble an infinite combo, it doesn’t matter if your opponent casts Sigarda or Emrakul or whatever. And if you can’t stick the combo fast enough, tutors will increase your odds of finding a solution to a bad situation.