Black Sun's Zenith
Put X -1/-1 counters on each creature. Shuffle Black Sun's Zenith into its owner's library.
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- Ayara, First of Locthwain + Black Sun's Zenith + Nest of Scarabs
- Black Sun's Zenith + Generous Patron
- Black Sun's Zenith + Dusk Urchins
|Commander / EDH||Legal|
|Commander: Rule 0||Legal|
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Black Sun's Zenith Discussion
23 hours ago
I don't know if I should go heavy with dmgremoval and Soul-Scar Mage or combo out.
1 week ago
This is a deck i’ve been playing with on mtgo with a surprisingly high success rate, and I imagine it would absolutely ruin lives in your multiplayer environment. It appears to be an innocent-enough creature-bases deck, but it absolutely preys on other creature-based decks, and can win games out of absolutely nowhere (even more so in a multiplayer environment, where a single Black Sun's Zenith is likely to just win on the spot).
Such a brew is (mostly) pretty cheap also, outside of the lands.
4 weeks ago
Other random thoughts: Thoughtcast and Thought Monitor are good with your artifacts. Tainted Strike can give you a surprise win. Rogue's Passage lets you sneak damage through. Serrated Arrows is great with proliferate. Triumph of the Hordes is pricey, but a good finisher. Black Sun's Zenith is a great, versatile board wipe, and with proliferate X=1 means your creatures survive while you proliferate theirs out of existence.
1 month ago
Hey, good to see another player building around -1/-1 counters!! I’ve got my own build here, which has gone done quite a different direction, but i’ve tried to detail the archtypes problems and solutions there.
For your deck, i have the following suggestions:
Even with a mana dork, I think your land count looks a little too low. Your deck has a lot of 3 & 4 drops, so i’d expect 23-24 lands?
Beseech the Queen feels super slow. This archtype is already one that struggles to keep up with the modern meta, I really don’t think we have time to be going off looking for a specific card for the entirety of a turn.
imo i’d run more Black Sun's Zenith instead of the Blowfly Infestation . The enchant is slow and can backfire, while Black Sun’s can pretty much win the game on the spot if a Nest or Hapatra is in play.
I feels like you’ve got too much focus of managing counters on your own stuff, instead of inflicting misery on your opponent. The bug pull for this archtype is enacting our plan sets the opponents plan back - if we’re not actively disrupting we lose some of our benefits. I’m surprised to not see stuff like Fume Spitter , Grind , or Skinrender here.
2 months ago
3 months ago
Some Creatures changes I end up adding: Yawgmoth, Thran Physician , Anafenza, Kin-Tree Spirit , Elenda, the Dusk Rose and Luminarch Aspirant . Also changed Citadel Siege for Felidar Retreat as it can give me tokens to sac and more counters not just 2
Doubts with: Custodi Soulbinders as it can give me a lot of tokens but I have to be set up already with my tokens or wait for oponents to set up their own table. I think I can swap it for something more usefull. Scheming Symmetry maybe I can get Profane Tutor until I have a more solid tutor.
3 months ago
Glad to hear it! Yeah sheesh I didn't even realize it was that much I remember it being like fifteen bucks a little while back, that's kind of insane- but hmm. Oh holy crap the synergy with Teysa Karlov and Felisa is kind of crazy, just noticed that too. But here are some ones I would recommend cutting, though if they are fun/interesting to you or serve a purpose I missed, I could obviously be wrong:
- Teysa, Envoy of Ghosts (insanely high CMC, and it doesn't seem to actively participate in the counters theme, just creates tokens, and I think Felisa does that quite well already.)
- Eventually with the budget swap out Keen Duelist for Dark Confidant ?
- Gonti, Lord of Luxury (not really sure what his purpose is related to the them)
- Possibly Deathbringer Liege (a little expensive in mana and not directly related to the theme while good)
- Ashen Rider (insanely expensive in mana, and not directly related to the theme)
- Butcher of Malakir (great but very expensive in mana and I feel like it could be cut to lower the mana cost)
- Maybe swap out 1-2 lands for things like Dark Ritual , Orzhov Signet
- Black Sun's Zenith (awsome but if you have a mass of tokens it'll kill them as long as they have 1 toughness)
- Also consider tribal for the tokens like a Coat of Arms would be insane with 7+ tokens, especially since they all have lifelink gosh)
- Infernal Offering (graveyard recursion is great but this could be pretty bad for you if opponents have powerful graveyards. Consider Beacon of Unrest / Command the Dreadhorde / Yawgmoth's Vile Offering .
Those are just some I see off the top of my head, if you look a little deep and really question how many times you play a card and utilize it, you might find some more! Sometimes its hard to cut a card you enjoy playing even if its fun so I'd recommend having a list of cards you can add for fun, and a list for effectiveness so you can play both sides! Hope this helps, I'm glad some suggestions are useful to you, and I'll let you know if I see any more possible cuts! Feel free to ask for any more assistance or if you have any questions I'd be glad to help.
5 months ago
Mmmm okay quite positive about the Silverquill deck:
Cunning Rhetoric: Fun and nicely costed. Thantis, the Warweaver approves.
Bold Plagiarist: Unfortunately, it's not whenever anyone puts counters on an opponent's creature, so some symmetrical cards like Evolutionary Escalation won't work since you're the one putting down all the counters. There's a handful that seems to fit the bill tho: Shadrix Silverquill , Orzhov Advokist , Regna's Sanction , Tempt with Glory (why is this a six-drop?) and Agitator Ant . (Also Oversimplify , but I don't think there's a way for Bold Plagiarist to see the Fractals getting their counters.) I kinda wish it was an Aura or auto-attaching Equipment.
Author of Shadows: Graveyard hate is nice and all but one measly card for MV 5? Would have been cool if you got something from each opponent.
Promise of Loyalty: Mm-hm, it's nice that they're working on white wraths. Great for and against Voltron decks.
Combat Calligrapher: White flying token gifter that also makes evasive tokens for yourself? My Marisi deck welcomes it with open arms.
Tempting Contract: This can certainly get out of hand, but for something that's basically a tapped MV 4 mana rock I wish it made you one Treasure guaranteed per trigger, like the Tempting Offer spells it's based on.
Nils, Discipline Enforcer: While far from competitive, here's a fun commander for some of those abovementioned counter-giving cards
Fain, the Broker: As mentioned by Muddstah, a Trading Post in the command zone is pretty neat, and none of the "conversion" abilities cost any mana! That untapping will probably be used for some nonsense or other
Felisa, Fang of Silverquill: Kinda funny that enemy Hapatra, Vizier of Poisons and The Scorpion God players can end up making tokens for you. Black Sun's Zenith can make a Martial Coup impression here. Are there any old creatures in orzhov that makes large amounts of weird counters for itself?