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Gargos, Vicious Watcher
Legendary Creature — Hydra
Hydra spells you cast cost less to cast.
Whenever a creature you control becomes the target of a spell, Gargos, Vicious Watcher fights up to one target creature you don't control.
Gargos, Vicious Watcher Discussion
1 week ago
Great job on going 4/0. anyway, i would like to second the Gilded Goose + Neoform into Incubation Druid . DimensionalCheesecake you are a genius! The Paradise Druid is good for the hexproof but you don't need that every game. Having 6 mana open to you on turn 3 is pretty busted. It opens you up to any of your planewalkers turn 3. 2 of your 3cmc ones. Voracious Hydra would hit the board as an 8/9. you could have Gargos, Vicious Watcher out on turn 3. Your deck would be a fun hydra deck that makes people scoop by turn 4. I would look at removing Growth Spiral for the Neoform i think however, growth spiral you can always use. Neoform would be reserved strictly for getting incubation druid with a counter on it. You could sideboard it for when you play against more aggressive decks that have less removal.
3 weeks ago
Please remember to link your cards with double brackets:
[[Gargos, Vicious Watcher]]
A spell is any card that is on the stack. Gargos cares about spells that specifically target it. So, that’s targeted instants ( Lightning Bolt ), targeted sorceries ( Grapeshot ), and Aura spells, which always target when they are a spell.
For your specific examples:
Equipment spells do not target. They resolve, then have an equip ability that allows it to attach to a creature. At that point, it is no longer a spell, so does not implicate Gargos.
Constellation does not necessarily target, it’s an ability word serving as a reminder that some effect will occur regarding enchantments entering the battlefield. Even if the ability targets, it will always be the ability, not a spell.
Bestow - bestow means you are casting the card as an aura spell. As such, a card cast for its bestow cost would be a targeted spell, and would implicate Gargos.
1 month ago
I'mma be real with ya, chief... make Gargos, Vicious Watcher your commander. If not him, then Rosheen Meanderer . There is no reason for Gyrus, Waker of Corpses to be your general, as he's literally antithetical to casting X-spells! He can get almost none of your stuff back; just cut black and red, add some cards like Drumhunter , Abzan Beastmaster , Tuskguard Captain , Spearbreaker Behemoth , Moss Diamond , and heaping piles pf ramp.
In fact, if you want something a little less typical, it may be better to make a Marath, Will of the Wild deck with Paleoloth s, Spellbreaker Behemoth s, and all the removal, rocks, and ramp your heart could desire.
Still, that's all my opinion. Your deck is yours.
1 month ago
LVL_666 hey im computer stupid ha, ill learn thank you.
Gargos, Vicious Watcher i actually love this card. I had him in my Red Green Modern Hydra deck for a while, but decided to make a different deck with him. Its mono green Modern Hydra Fight deck. also gave me an excuse to use use Arena .
Yea its all good ha. I did update the wurm deck, its even more tribal than before, what is your thoughts? I did put Beast Within , and a shitload of tutors.
Side note. I haven't lost a game with the updated deck yet. One game i even started with 0 lands and won by the 10th turn. Of course small pool, obviously need to go on mtgo or to the game store. Played against Jodah, Archmage Eternal , Muldrotha, the Gravetide , Golos, Tireless Pilgrim , and Atraxa, Praetors' Voice .
1 month ago
Question for you, have you considered Gargos, Vicious Watcher as a potential commander? Omnath, Locus of Mana seems like it'd be better suited to being one of the 99 as opposed to being the commander of a hydra deck. It just doesn't seem right to me, or maybe that's just my inner Vorthos messing with me. Well, what do you think of Gargos ?
1 month ago
Thanks for the constructive tips Boroswins!
Quiet often I don't get to use Arboreal Grazer's ability, just had a hard time against flying type decks.
Got to admit that i overlooked the fact Gargos, Vicious Watcher is a legendary creature, gonna remove 2 of him.
I'm gonna modify the deck exactly as you said, really like your suggestions.
If you could give me your black options, that would be fantastic! Thought about making the deck two-coloured after rotation.
1 month ago
I'm working on a similar concept (I splash black, but then you have to pay for the mana base). For yours, after playtesting, I 100% wished that the Arboreal Grazer were Llanowar Elves every time, so I recommend swapping +2 for -2 to get 4 elves in there. The Voracious Hydra is one of the most powerful cards in your deck, I would recommend +2. My initial build had a bunch of Gargos, Vicious Watcher also, and I found that he was hard to play along side the rest of the deck, so I would -2 him for the other hydra. It was very rare that I ever got to keep a Gargos out long enough to draw into a Voracious. Usually I already played the Voracious, or they kill the Gargos before I can play with it or draw a Voracious.
I would consider Bounty of Might as a 1 or 2 of. It provides three separate triggers to your rhino and for your Season of Growth . The deck's problem is that it runs out of steam fairly quickly, a normal green problem. You need late game items to get back into it. Perhaps +2, and -1 Gargos, -1 Giant Growth.
Good luck, I love the way the concept is moving. If interested, I can give you my black options for the deck which smooth out the curve and add a lot of durability. I ran yours against mine and mine won 2/1 for whatever that is worth.
2 months ago
Since this list is really about ramping, I suggest you change the parameters and/or title to include non-creature ramp spells and also creatures and spells that reduce casting costs, which are all just as useful. If this is somehow too impure for your list, I'd be happy to start my own. Just let me know! Here's a few off the top of my head (some are actual dork creatures you're currently missing): Cabal Stronghold , Smothering Tithe , Paradise Mantle , Springleaf Drum , Utopia Sprawl , Fertile Ground , Dawn's Reflection , Market Festival , Weirding Wood , Overgrowth , Wild Growth , Nissa, Vastwood Seer Flip, Explore , Harvest Season , Pyretic Ritual , Geosurge , Black Lotus , Mox Opal , Mox Amber , Mox Tantalite , Rosheen Meanderer , Gargos, Vicious Watcher , Heartless Summoning , Growth Spiral , Incubation Druid , Harabaz Druid , Savage Ventmaw
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