Bogardan Hellkite

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Legality

Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Alchemy Legal
Archenemy Legal
Arena Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Gladiator Legal
Highlander Legal
Historic Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Planechase Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Bogardan Hellkite

Creature — Dragon

Flash (You may cast this spell at any time you could cast an instant.)

Flying

When this enters the battlefield, this deals 5 damage divided as you choose among any number of target creatures, players and/or planeswalkers.

Spirits on Kaalia, Mirror Breaker EDH

5 months ago

LordKunai,

Also was EXTREMELY happy that Orcish Bowmasters replaced that awful Bogardan Hellkite!

MTGBurgeoning on The Kaalia Battalia

1 year ago

Hello and thank you for your awesome suggestions!! Kaalia will always have a special place in my heart as she led my very first EDH deck. You never forget your first! I love the idea of including Isshin, Two Heavens as One here! Doubling-up Kaalia's trigger is awesome, but also doubling-up the triggers of Aurelia, the Warleader and Battle Angels of Tyr make this card's inclusion even better! As a bonus, this build has so many recursive abilities that having Isshin die is not a problem. GREAT RECOMMENDATION!

As for Conjurer's Closet and Panharmonicon, these inclusions would have been slam-dunks during previous iterations of this build. There was a time when this deck solely focused on enter the battlefield triggers. Over the years, this theme evolved into a more combat-driven engine (which is another way Isshin will make this deck stronger!). At this moment, less than 25% (six out of 27) of the creatures in this deck have enter the battlefield triggers, including the aforementioned Rune-Scarred Demon. I sense that adding Conjurer's Closet and Panharmonicon to the current iteration of this deck may make it a bit clunky, although thinking about the synergies with Rune-Scarred Demon, Bogardan Hellkite, Karmic Guide and Angel of Despair is quite tempting...

Thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts about Kaalia! I appreciate your suggestions and feedback! Happy brewing!

Spirits on Kaalia, Mirror Breaker EDH

1 year ago

Hey LordKunai,

It's a good thought. None of those are really utility cards outside the combo either. Thieves' Guild Enforcer maybe could be used to disrupt top-deck tutors like Vampiric Tutor or Mystical Tutor.

Mana cost isn't a concern because WGD makes infinite mana, but outside the combo Necron Deathmark pretty awful too, so is Bogardan Hellkite but he is playable with Kaalia of the Vast from hand and works with Dragon Tempest etc.

If an opponent has a shuffle titan in their deck too, then this line of play wouldn't kill them either. It's a great line of though, but none of those are quite there yet as combo pieces but also utility outside the combo.

Spirits on Kaalia, Mirror Breaker EDH

1 year ago

Hey LordKunai,

Unfortunately none of those dragons work, because they don't have "Flash".

When WGD combo starts, and generates "infinite mana" flickering your lands, you'll either a) need a way to insert a piece ((Bogardan Hellkite) without stoping the loop, also if there are no other targets, you won't be able to stop the loop, b) Stop the loop and then restart it if it's a flicker ability, if your relying on an spell then no need to restart, but any of those dragons you would have to restart.

Omen of the Forge would work, but feels it's utlitiy outside of the WGD combo is just as bad or worse than the Bogardan Hellkite. Need something that can come in during the WGD combo, that can win the game by itself, but not be 9 mana and useless outside the combo.

LordKunai on Kaalia, Mirror Breaker EDH

1 year ago

hey Spirits! long time no see haha. So i was wondering what are the requirements for alternatives to Bogardan Hellkite? Would Red Dragon, Demanding Dragon, Scourge of Valkas, Terror of the Peaks or Tyrant of Kher Ridges work?

Spirits on Kaalia, Mirror Breaker EDH

1 year ago

Ad Nauseam has been too slow, switching back to Worldgorger Dragon. Likely will end up cutting Worldgorger Dragon for more interaction, but we'll see.

Adding the Ancient Copper Dragon in.

I need a real alternative to Bogardan Hellkite he is so bad, but can't find an alternative to him.

Housegheist on Cloning around

1 year ago

After all i finally found your Miiryim^^

All in all, nice list. I joticed, that you have almost no creature-interaction, like Blasphemous Act or Beast Within. Is that intended? Hoe do you react on an opponents boardstate if you‘re behind?

If you are looking for cuts, i‘m not a big fan of Ancient Bronze Dragon and Bogardan Hellkite… have you considered Glasspool Mimic  Flip? It‘s a damn versatile clone…

Rhadamanthus on 32 Sustainable Spells to Burn Body Fat

1 year ago

I think leaning even more into the "utility" side of searching up dragons would be a good idea. I see you already have Knollspine Dragon in the Maybeboard, which I definitely agree with. I would also recommend Thunder Dragon and Bogardan Hellkite for removal (maybe even Lava-Field Overlord if you need more), as well as Hoarding Dragon to dig up your Thrumming Stone or Spellweaver Helix. Astral Dragon could also do some funny stuff in the right circumstances.

I feel like Dragon Tempest and Anger are only actually good with Ancient Copper Dragon and Ancient Silver Dragon. If you ever take those dragons out, then I think those haste enablers can also come out to make way for more useful cards.

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