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Bogardan Hellkite
Creature — Dragon
Flash (You may cast this spell at any time you could cast an instant.)
Flying
When this enters the battlefield, this deals 5 damage divided as you choose among any number of target creatures, players and/or planeswalkers.
MTGBurgeoning on
The Kaalia Battalia
1 month ago
Hello and thank you for your awesome suggestions!! Kaalia will always have a special place in my heart as she led my very first EDH deck. You never forget your first! I love the idea of including Isshin, Two Heavens as One here! Doubling-up Kaalia's trigger is awesome, but also doubling-up the triggers of Aurelia, the Warleader and Battle Angels of Tyr make this card's inclusion even better! As a bonus, this build has so many recursive abilities that having Isshin die is not a problem. GREAT RECOMMENDATION!
As for Conjurer's Closet and Panharmonicon, these inclusions would have been slam-dunks during previous iterations of this build. There was a time when this deck solely focused on enter the battlefield triggers. Over the years, this theme evolved into a more combat-driven engine (which is another way Isshin will make this deck stronger!). At this moment, less than 25% (six out of 27) of the creatures in this deck have enter the battlefield triggers, including the aforementioned Rune-Scarred Demon. I sense that adding Conjurer's Closet and Panharmonicon to the current iteration of this deck may make it a bit clunky, although thinking about the synergies with Rune-Scarred Demon, Bogardan Hellkite, Karmic Guide and Angel of Despair is quite tempting...
Thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts about Kaalia! I appreciate your suggestions and feedback! Happy brewing!
Spirits on
Kaalia, Mirror Breaker EDH
3 months ago
Hey LordKunai,
It's a good thought. None of those are really utility cards outside the combo either. Thieves' Guild Enforcer maybe could be used to disrupt top-deck tutors like Vampiric Tutor or Mystical Tutor.
Mana cost isn't a concern because WGD makes infinite mana, but outside the combo Necron Deathmark pretty awful too, so is Bogardan Hellkite but he is playable with Kaalia of the Vast from hand and works with Dragon Tempest etc.
If an opponent has a shuffle titan in their deck too, then this line of play wouldn't kill them either. It's a great line of though, but none of those are quite there yet as combo pieces but also utility outside the combo.
Spirits on
Kaalia, Mirror Breaker EDH
3 months ago
Hey LordKunai,
Unfortunately none of those dragons work, because they don't have "Flash".
When WGD combo starts, and generates "infinite mana" flickering your lands, you'll either a) need a way to insert a piece ((Bogardan Hellkite) without stoping the loop, also if there are no other targets, you won't be able to stop the loop, b) Stop the loop and then restart it if it's a flicker ability, if your relying on an spell then no need to restart, but any of those dragons you would have to restart.
Omen of the Forge would work, but feels it's utlitiy outside of the WGD combo is just as bad or worse than the Bogardan Hellkite. Need something that can come in during the WGD combo, that can win the game by itself, but not be 9 mana and useless outside the combo.
LordKunai on
Kaalia, Mirror Breaker EDH
3 months ago
hey Spirits! long time no see haha. So i was wondering what are the requirements for alternatives to Bogardan Hellkite? Would Red Dragon, Demanding Dragon, Scourge of Valkas, Terror of the Peaks or Tyrant of Kher Ridges work?
Spirits on
Kaalia, Mirror Breaker EDH
5 months ago
Ad Nauseam has been too slow, switching back to Worldgorger Dragon. Likely will end up cutting Worldgorger Dragon for more interaction, but we'll see.
Adding the Ancient Copper Dragon in.
I need a real alternative to Bogardan Hellkite he is so bad, but can't find an alternative to him.
Housegheist on
Cloning around
10 months ago
After all i finally found your Miiryim^^
All in all, nice list. I joticed, that you have almost no creature-interaction, like Blasphemous Act or Beast Within. Is that intended? Hoe do you react on an opponents boardstate if you‘re behind?
If you are looking for cuts, i‘m not a big fan of Ancient Bronze Dragon and Bogardan Hellkite… have you considered Glasspool Mimic Flip? It‘s a damn versatile clone…
Rhadamanthus on
32 Sustainable Spells to Burn Body Fat
11 months ago
I think leaning even more into the "utility" side of searching up dragons would be a good idea. I see you already have Knollspine Dragon in the Maybeboard, which I definitely agree with. I would also recommend Thunder Dragon and Bogardan Hellkite for removal (maybe even Lava-Field Overlord if you need more), as well as Hoarding Dragon to dig up your Thrumming Stone or Spellweaver Helix. Astral Dragon could also do some funny stuff in the right circumstances.
I feel like Dragon Tempest and Anger are only actually good with Ancient Copper Dragon and Ancient Silver Dragon. If you ever take those dragons out, then I think those haste enablers can also come out to make way for more useful cards.
Squee_Spirit_Guide on
DragonForce - Through the Fire and Flames
1 year ago
Straight away, this is a deck I'd enjoy playing. I love how out of control it can get, and dragons are arguably the most nostalgic tribe in Magic, which is a big plus for me! Anyway, here's some thoughts that might be helpful as you continue testing. I'm not very knowledgeable when it comes to commander though, so take my suggestions with a pinch of salt :).
In any dragon deck, I like Zirilan of the Claw. He's a nice little tutor/sneak attack for dragons, and with the way you're set up to copy your dragons you should get at least one copy to hang around permanently. Along the lines of getting gragons out quickly, for cost reduction have you looked at Dragonspeaker Shaman or Dragonlord's Servant? I'm not sure if you're hurting in that area, but they might help if you are.
For the 'dragons or permanents that deal non-combat damage' category there's Bogardan Hellkite and Shivan Hellkite. Both are pretty high on the mana curve, but I like the repeatability of Shivan's ability and the copyability (sure, that's a word) of Bogardan's.
Interestingly, being in blue also gives you access to clones like Vesuvan Doppelganger, Phantasmal Image, and of course Clone. With the high number of legendary creatures they might not always have a target, but I think they would most of the time and it could really let you double up on tokens, triggers, and effects.
This is probably getting a little too cute, but Archwing Dragon and all its tokens would repeatedly trigger things like Impact Tremors. You wouldn't get to keep the tokens, but being able to cast a dragon every turn might have some value. Like I said, I'm probably stretching with that one.
Those are just some ideas I had when looking through the list. You'll know better from your testing if any of them have value, but I hope I at least mentioned a couple that are helpful :)
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