Molten Primordial

Legality

Format Legality
Tiny Leaders Legal
1v1 Commander Legal
Magic Duels Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Vintage Legal
Modern Legal
Penny Dreadful Legal
Leviathan Legal
Legacy Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Unformat Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal

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Set Rarity
Gatecrash (GTC) Rare

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Molten Primordial

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Haste

When Molten Primordial enters the battlefield, for each opponent, take control of up to one target creature that player controls until end of turn. Untap those creatures. They have haste until end of turn.

Molten Primordial Discussion

SharpRaptor on Brion Stoutarm (Giants)

1 week ago

Recommended Cards to Add

This of course does not take into accountmana curve considerations or anything similar. It is merely cards to consider

Creatures

Captivating Crew - Repeated steal effect to have ammunition to throw at people

Evra, Halcyon Witness - Large creature that can be as big as your lifetotal when thrown if wanted.

Serra Avatar - Large creature that is as big as your life total to potentially one shot someone and double your lifetotal

Zealous Conscripts - Can steal an opposing creature to throw, opposing walker to ult or any other problematic permenent. Also incidentaly goes infinite with Kiki Jiki.

Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker - Can tap to make copies of your big creatures to throw. Goes infinite with Zealous conscripts.

Malignus - Large creature that scales with life total of opponent

Molten Primordial - Mass threaten on a stick

Feldon of the Third Path - makes copies of your already dead creatures

Emeria Shepherd - Recursion that can also be reanimation

Hoarding Dragon - A way to search out our game winning artifacts. Easy enough to throw at someone to get our artifact.

Karmic Guide - Reanimation

Neheb, the Eternal - lots of mana if you throw things pre combat

Yosei, the Morning Star - Very good thing to be able to recur. Can lock people out of the game with enough setup.

War Elemental - Scales as we throw things

Bloodshot Cyclops - Backup Brion?

Bearer of the Heavens - Dont make me do this!

Godo, Bandit Warlord - Can tutor up our powerful equipment. Would prefer Stoneforge Mystic but one is a lot more money than the other.

Gisela, Blade of Goldnight - Double our damage, half theirs? Yes please

Instants

The usual goes here of making sure that we have interaction for people trying to stop us or making sure we can stop people. Though of specific mention

Faith's Reward - Recover from a wrath or just rebuy a couple of good creatures after a combat and throw.

Orim's Thunder - Hadn't actually seen this before but it seems to be a good potential 2 for 1 while also being a good answer to artifacts and enchantments.

Sorceries

Here there are a lot of potential threaten effects that i could recommend. But we know that we need them so i won't list them all. Other effects we could need do include one or two wraths as even though we are the creature deck, sometimes they just have more or better creatures. However other things to note.

Open the Armory - Tutors equipment or Auras.

Chandra's Ignition - Targetting some of our big creatures might just end the game with this.

Insurrection - You usually just win if this resolves on a decent board state.

Artifacts

Usual list of mana ramp. Sol Ring Boros Signet Commander's Sphere Mind Stone Boros Cluestone Hedron Archive Gilded Lotus Thran Dynamo etc

Other than that, the fun things include

Phyrexian Processor - Yeh this card is rather good. Just Make big tokens and start throwing them

Well of Lost Dreams - With the triggers from Brion we should be able to restock our hand quite easily with this

Illusionist's Bracers - Copy the fling. As sacrificing a creature is part of the cost it will effectively be two triggers from flinging the same creature.

Thornbite Staff - Untaps brion when a creature dies. This includes sacrificing the creature to brion, so effectively tapping him causes him to untap....

Thousand-Year Elixir - Gives Brion haste and an untap.

Aetherflux Reservoir - 50cal Sniper Rifle to the face anyone?

Enchantments

Damage doublers can be recommended but i usually avoid the symettrical ones from personal preference. One or two effects that give Haste might be good too. Other effects however

Flameshadow Conjuring - Copy up our faties for good ETB triggers, effective haste or extra copies to throw with Brion.

Sigil of the New Dawn - Recur everything!

Marshal's Anthem - Decent mass resurrect in white. Though a little mana intensive

Angelic Renewal - One time use recursion of a creature

Goblin Bombardment - Backup sacrifice effects for all our threatens. WE don't want to have to give their toys back do we?

Strangelove on Marchesa, the Black Rose EDH: Steal Yo Gurl!

3 weeks ago

Hey Shinwizzles, nice list! +1

Here's a version I made for under $30: Black Rose [Budget]

It's a got a huge pool in the maybeboard, check it out.

No one mentioned Flayer of the Hatebound . Auto-include, imo. With a sac engine, it does at least 9 damage at the end of each turn (36+ damage by your next upkeep)!

Geralf's Mindcrusher similarly mills 10-40.

Brine Shaman is cool.

Feast on the Fallen ?

On theme, I'm seeing neither Molten Primordial nor Mob Rule . There's also Macabre Mockery and Overtaker .

Abyssal Gatekeeper , Fleshbag Marauder (and friends), and Profaner of the Dead are brutal. I would definitely swap out some of the lesser betrayal ( Portent of Betrayal , CMC 4+, etc) for these.

Graft: I feel like Graft + Sac Engine + Marchesa is very strong. The only way your opponents can clear this combo is to waste a ton of removal (3+ to remove Marchesa), or wait for your Graft trigger (if you overextend your combo). Vigean Graftmage protects Marchesa immediately on turn 4. They're also good fodder, like anything with Undying, to feed things like Altar of Dementia once each turn.

Shout out to Demon's Herald ! I've been looking for an excuse to play Prince of Thralls ... Maybe it's on-theme? I love these two.

Cheers!

KongMing on The Deckwatch [Home Base]

1 month ago

Hey hkhssweiss, if you're still looking for a good janky Monored Commander, I recommend Feldon of the Third Path . Use his ability in order to spam creatures with high power and solid ETB abilities, without worrying about a Counterspell. Typical picks are Molten Primordial , Bogardan Hellkite , Tyrant of Discord , Dragon Tyrant , Rapacious One , Pathrazer of Ulamog , and It That Betrays .

Instants and Sorceries like Faithless Looting , Cathartic Reunion , Dangerous Wager , Khorvath's Fury , Collective Defiance , Pirate's Pillage , and Shattered Perception let you put these biggies into your graveyard for early game Feldon recursion. Orbs of Warding can help protect your graveyard from removal.

Other notables are Petradon (exile your tapped lands, return them untapped at end step) and Avaricious Dragon (use when you want to dump your hand into the grave, activate Feldon at upkeep to draw an extra card). There are lots of fun tricks you can do with Feldon.

Louivillain23 on Off With Her Head, Marchesa!

3 months ago

Your deck is gonna be stagnant if Marchesa isn't protected so I'd suggest Lightning Greaves to protect her. I'd also suggest Grim Haruspex, Disciple of Bolas and Sage of Fables for some reliable card draw. Your deck also seems to want to be aggressive so cards like Exava, Rakdos Blood Witch and Anger to have more cards that grant haste to capitalize on an open opponent. Also dealing with combat you can have some extra evasion with stuff like Profaner of the Dead and Pyreheart Wolf. If you want to delve more into the realm of taking other people's creatures then Molten Primordial would be great. Last but not least Marchesa, the Black Rose and Mikaeus, the Unhallowed puts anything that dies into a recursion loop, so another way to abuse that is having a creature infinitely die while Deathbringer Thoctar or Stalking Vengeance is out to throw infinite damage at everyone for a W!!! That's all I got, Happy Brewing!!!

Unlife on Xantcha's Chaotic Hugs

3 months ago

I'd put a couple of sac outlets and borrow effects in. Things like Molten Primordial, Mass Mutiny, Insurrection, Goblin Bombardment, Phyrexian Altar, Krark-Clan Ironworks, Trading Post and Grinding Station. Maybe a few things like Disrupt Decorum as well, that way you win with your opponents creatures and don't have to worry about diluting the chaos/group hug effects too much

cdkime on Sleeper Agent | Budget Xantcha Politics

4 months ago

I gave the list a more in-depth look, with particular consideration to the issues you've listed above. Here are some further thoughts--some of these will be outside your current budget, but are worth remembering for future improvement.

No Mercy and Smoke are pretty strong cards that will slow down your opponents and discourage attacks against you. Crawlspace will make it more difficult to attack you.

Terminate and Dreadbore are both solid spot removal.

Torment of Hailfire provides a solid win condition.

To encourage attacking others, you could consider running some of the curses. Curse of Opulence and Curse of Disturbance are the two I would probably run. The first is a powerful incentive and gives them mana to feed into Xantcha's ability. The second gives you a blocker to offset the attacker they are receiving.

You have a lot of very expensive, low-impact sorceries you should cut. With the exception of Blasphemous Act, all your sorceries with a CMC 5+ should go.

You also have several large creatures that are not worth their cost--Molten Primordial and Warmonger Hellkite both can go.

Crypt Ghast increases your mana production and draws you cards. If you run Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth, all your lands will be producing extra mana.

Braid of Fire will grow out of control quickly, feeding your commander.

K1ngMars on Putin's long term plan to conquer the world

4 months ago

Secondo me devi impostare il mazzo più verso il fare attaccare gli avversari tra loro e fargli perdere tempo per poi tirare fuori una finisher. Inoltre non hai nessun vantaggio dallo scartare, perché non hai cose come Liliana's Caress, wheels o carte con Madness, di conseguenza taglierei anche da quella parte. Quindi toglierei alcune delle carte tax che hai messo. Proporrei cose del genere:

  • Harsh Mentor -> Again, una tax abbastanza gratuita che però ti rende il tizio fastidioso #1. Non è ciò che vuoi, ti servono cose più subdole. Tipo Hunted Dragon.
  • Sire Of Insanity -> Spezza le tattiche a tutti, ma anche a te. Non lo ritengo utile, soprattutto perché non carte con madness, né carte sufficenti con flashback, emerge, ecc. Meglio un Combustible Gearhulk che ti fa pescare. In rosso. 6/6 first strike.
  • Dark Ritual -> Non è forte come Mana Geyser. Se non sei un mazzo combo, non te ne fai nulla di una carta così.
  • Hero's Downfall -> Ruinous Path e risparmi.
  • Rakdos Charm -> Nessuno dei sui effetti è così utile, se non forse esiliare il cimitero, but then again... Bojuka Bog?
  • Dreadbore -> Murder e risparmi.
  • Vandalblast -> Costa davvero tanto. Fai tu, ma non vedo tutta questa necessità di spaccare tutto. hai già molto removal per gli artefatti, potresti investire quei denari altrove.
  • War's Toll -> Heartless Hidetsugu è meglio non metterti un bersagio sulla testa grosso come war's toll. L'hidetsugu è più democratico.
  • Worn Powerstone -> Citadel of Pain perché la Powerstone fa schifo. Meglio una carta che gioca contro chi vuole fare il cheesy. Oppure Talisman of Indulgence.
  • Hissing Miasma -> Skyline Despot meglio avere più carte che ti rendono monarca che un side effect come questo enchantment. Se vogliono attaccarti, lo faranno comunque. L'unica ragione per cui invece Marchesa's Decree va bene è perché ti rende monarca.

Io tenterei di mettere tante carte che ti fanno rubare cose agli avversari, perché è un modo swag di rompere le balle. Ci sono così tante carte con questo effetto, che rischi di poter anche non mettere Insurrection, più che altro perché è difficile da trovare e costosa. Dico cose come:

Oltre a ciò, ti consiglio carte swag che sicuramente sono divertenti come:

Scusa se non ti ho commentato tutte le carte, ma sono un pelo di corsa. Ne possiamo piuttosto parlare quando ci vediamo.

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Molten Primordial occurrence in decks from the last year

Commander / EDH:

All decks: 0.02%

Red: 0.12%