Thirst for Meaning

Instant

Draw three cards. Then discard two cards unless you discard an enchantment card.

Legality

Format	Legality
1v1 Commander	Legal
Archenemy	Legal
Arena	Legal
Block Constructed	Legal
Canadian Highlander	Legal
Casual	Legal
Commander / EDH	Legal
Commander: Rule 0	Legal
Custom	Legal
Duel Commander	Legal
Gladiator	Legal
Highlander	Legal
Historic	Legal
Legacy	Legal
Leviathan	Legal
Limited	Legal
Modern	Legal
Oathbreaker	Legal
Pauper	Legal
Pauper Duel Commander	Legal
Pauper EDH	Legal
Pioneer	Legal
Planechase	Legal
Quest Magic	Legal
Tiny Leaders	Legal
Vanguard	Legal
Vintage	Legal

Discussion (18)

Shaffe_House on Araumi of the Dead Tide

2 years ago

Instant/Sorceries/Artifact/Enchantment

Enablers:

Ancient Excavation, Dihada's Ploy, Fact or Fiction, Frantic Search, Forbidden Alchemy, Otherworldly Gaze, Thirst for Knowledge, Thirst for Meaning, Winds of Rebuke, You Find the Villains' Lair, Careful Study, Funeral Rites, Notion Rain, Ransack the Lab, Perpetual Timepiece

Reanimation:

Dread Return, Incarnation Technique, Living Death, Necromantic Selection, Victimize

Ramp:

Fellwar Stone, Mind Stone, Skyclave Relic, Sol Ring, Worn Powerstone, Songs of the Damned

Other:

Discontinuity, Siphon Insight, Songs of the Damned, Bone Shards, Tortured Existence

TriusMalarky on Thought Flare and Niv Mizzet …

2 years ago

Thirst for Meaning and Thirst for Knowledge are both incredibly good cards, and if I know EDH I assume you're running at least a couple mana rocks and one or two enchantments you thought were cool. They also only cost 3 mana, which is great.

Additionally, Frantic Search is great to dig really fast, especially if you have a land that taps for multiple mana. Faithless Looting is just great, Brainstorm is a no-brainer, and there's a couple affordable wheels in Windfall , Wheel of Misfortune and Day's Undoing .

Sorin_Markov_1947 on

3 years ago

A couple of deck philosophy problems with this deck.

1. Why so many counterspells? If you're going for a control mill plan, you'll want either white for boardwipes or black for solid removal.

2. 66 cards? Believe me, I used to have this problem a lot. Finding the last few cards to take out when deckbuilding is a huge problem for me because they all seem so useful! The argument that persuaded me to always have the strength to cut something was this. You have 66 cards. Logically, some cards are going to be weaker than others. You have a strongest card and a weakest card. Why are you letting yourself draw your weakest (66th best) card when you could have drawn anything else in your deck that's just better? The same logic applies to anything outside of your 60 best cards. You just have to find which are the 60 strongest.

3. There are a lot of 1x and 2x cards in here. Consistency is a very big part of building a deck. That's why >60 card decks are considered bad, and it's why you want as many copies of your good cards as possible. Similar argument to the >60 card argument. Why draw your weaker cards when you could've used that space in the deck for your stronger cards?

4. 22 lands. Most 60-card decks run 24, higher for decks with lots of high CMC cards and lower for more aggro decks with low-cost spells. 24 is about right for this deck, more like 28 if you have the 6 extra nonland cards. I don't do the math on this one, but people who have say that 22 lands isn't enough to consistently make a deck of average average CMC work.

Okay, now on to specific cards. I think there are a lot of cards that don't fit with your gameplan here, so I'll just focus on what I think you should be trying to do. You said this is a turbo mill deck, so let's focus on milling as much as possible. Didn't Say Please is a good one to give you a little bit of control (usually you'll use this to stop a crab from dying). More Maddening Cacophony is probably good, as it's just better than Merfolk Secretkeeper (which I don't think is good enough for the deck) and one of the best straight mill spells around. Vantress Gargoyle is good to have not for the mill but for the utility as a blocker and alternate win (unlikely). If you're really centered around Teferi's Tutelage (which is not a bad idea, it's strong mill), have more card draw. Frantic Inventory is a good one, as are Thirst for Meaning and Opt , which you already have. Fabled Passage is strictly better than Evolving Wilds if you have them. I crafted the full playset because I use them in so many decks.

Spell_Slam on ramses overdark

3 years ago

Dragon Shadow is great evasion and can be great removal against certain decks with lots of 6+ drops.

Freed from the Real will turn Ramses into a machine gun.

Nimbus Naiad is decent value for you, being able to use it as removal that gives you a 2/2 flyer back, or just pumping your own creatures. Ramses can win with Commander damage pretty quickly with this.

Thirst for Meaning is great card draw for this deck.

I that with all your protective enchantments and countermagic, you don't need relatively narrow cards like Turn Aside.

Floodtide Serpent, while flavourful, seems like a pretty bad card, since you have so few ways of actually taking advantage of its ability (an occasional expensive cantrip).

You could also trim on some of the more useless cantrip enchantments, I think. Once you find a recurring aura, Ramses is pretty set to go off.

Murphy77 on

3 years ago

I would focus on the draw-and-mill trifecta of Psychic Corrosion, Sphinx's Tutelage and Teferi's Tutelage, backed up by Fraying Sanity. Yes, Ruin Crab and Merfolk Secretkeeper can do a lot of damage, specially if you can start to flicker the Secretkeeper. Keep Safe, Befuddle and Opt may just give you enough card draw to seal the game. I would also consider Hydrolash and cards like Thirst for Meaning

Murphy77 on

3 years ago

I would focus on the draw-and-mill trifecta of Psychic Corrosion, Sphinx's Tutelage and Teferi's Tutelage, backed up by Fraying Sanity. Yes, Ruin Crab and Merfolk Secretkeeper can do a lot of damage, specially if you can start to flicker the Secretkeeper. Keep Safe, Befuddle and Opt may just give you enough card draw to seal the game. I would also consider Hydrolash and cards like Thirst for Meaning

Red_X on Late Bloomer

3 years ago

So, you're deck is a bit confused right now. Decks with cards like Gray Merchant of Asphodel want as many black mana symbols as possible, which leads those decks to generally by mono black. Bond of Revival works with really big creatures like Demon of Loathing, but your deck isn't set up to quickly get one into the grave so you can use it. So I think you have a few options.

1. Turn into a mono black devotion deck. These decks run cards like Gray Merchant, Ayara, First of Locthwain, and Cauldron Familiar to drain your opponent's life one or two points at a time. There's a current list in this article, but you obviously can customize: https://articles.starcitygames.com/videos/core-set-2021-standard-round-2/

2. Turn this into a control deck with a revival finish. I'd recommend a different finisher (Massacre Wurm has impact immediately on board and does damage, Pursued Whale protects itself and makes combat awkward for your opponent, play around with this one), but something that has immediate impact on board and/or can protect itself is generally best bet. You could even run Drakuseth, Maw of Flame since you're never going to cast it. I'd recommend either the mill route with cards like Mire Triton or the discard route with more Thirst for Meaning. Here's a version to get the idea: https://mtgazone.com/deck/dimir-reanimator-by-brewers-kitchen-standard-artisan/

3. Make this full on Dimir control. You'll remove a lot of the creatures in favor of planeswalkers like more Narsets or Ashiok, Nightmare Muse, more removal spells like Eliminate or Heartless Act, and win conditions like Lochmere Serpent or Nightveil Predator. This deck can potentially get very expensive (they generally run at least 1 Ugin, which is $35 by itself), but you can switch out those cards for lower power cards and still do decent at a local level. Here's an example: https://mtgdecks.net/Standard/dimir-control-decklist-by-peter-joensson-1009881

You can obviously customize as much as you want. Additionally, I wouldn't spend a bunch of money right now. Rotation is in September, so you don't want to spend $16 on a Liliana, Dreadhorde General and only get to play it for 2 months. Finally, I'll leave a couple of resources I give to anyone just starting out.

How many lands: https://www.channelfireball.com/all-strategy/articles/how-many-lands-do-you-need-to-consistently-hit-your-land-drops/

If you need some clarification on how to build control vs. midrange vs. combo, vs. aggro: https://www.channelfireball.com/all-strategy/articles/magic-the-gathering-has-three-major-archetypes-aggro-combo-and-control/

After you decide on a deck type, there's a lot of ways to go, but it's hard to give much other advice without knowing that.

BigCountry64 on Sanctum

3 years ago

Thanks for the input! Scavenging Ooze is going to be in the sideboard for sure. Thirst for Meaning is just really helpful to get to the Shrines I need. As far as Garruk's Uprising I don't think it is the best fit here since there won't be any creatures hitting to trigger.