Forbidden Alchemy

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Format Legality
Noble Legal
1v1 Commander Legal
Vintage Legal
Modern Legal
Casual Legal
Vanguard Legal
Legacy Legal
Archenemy Legal
Planechase Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Unformat Legal
Pauper Legal
Commander / EDH Legal

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Set Rarity
Modern Masters 2017 Edition (MM3) Common
Duel Decks: Blessed vs Cursed (DDQ) Common
Innistrad (ISD) Common
Promo Set (000) Common

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Forbidden Alchemy

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Look at the top four cards of your library. Put one of them into your hand and the rest into your graveyard.

Flashback (You may cast this card from your graveyard for its flashback cost. Then exile it.)

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Forbidden Alchemy Discussion

Dennis14 on Junk Reboglenator

2 weeks ago

I am thinking about building a similar deck myself.

In my opion Blue is a better third color for the deck than Black (which doesn't offer much besides Grisly Salvage) as you get cards like:
Forbidden Alchemy, Strategic Planning, the flashback mode of Tracker's Instincts and also Invisible Stalker as a creature and Auramancer's Guise as a powerful aura.

To take full advantage of Retether I'd focus on high impact auras only, like:
Eldrazi Conscription, Auramancer's Guise, Angelic Destiny, Celestial Mantle and Spectra Ward.

Instead of running so many auras/creatures I'd rather play more self-milling cantrips.
Vessel of Nascency/Tracker's Instincts and Gather the Pack/Commune with the Gods/Grapple with the Past/Mulch can be decent options.

To realiably find Retether I'd use Eternal Witness and Noxious Revival to get back milled copies.

Toxicnerve on Blue/White/Black Control

4 weeks ago

I like it. I know it was created 6 years ago, based off of what this says, but I really like the concept. The combination of board wipes and graveyard creatures is beautiful. The only thing is it may struggle with other control decks. Another concept you could look into for sideboard maybe is the synergy between Skaab Ruinator and Eternal Scourge. I know when this deck was constructed the eldrazi were not a thing yet, I believe, but the synergy is undeniable. The only problem is getting 3 at a time. You could use some tutor spells (lots in black) to find the creatures you want and go to town with another 1 or 2 Skaab Ruinator. You would probably have to use Forbidden Alchemy to get them into the graveyard if you wanted to hold onto the board wipe for a better moment. I feel like Dictate of Erebos would be great for this deck too. And on the newer side, Torment of Scarabs for some constant pressure. I don't know if you'll see this or if you even want to play this anymore but those would be my suggestions to either you, or anyone who also sees the beauty in this deck. I still can't get over how well the graveyard creatures work together with the board wipe and just overall. Nice job. :)

quitrage on Ultra Budget Sidisi EDH $16

1 month ago

Hey thanks for the feedback!

I really like Laquatus's Creativity and Whispering Madness since they're like a Forgotten Creation that I don't have to wait for the effect to trigger on, plus the cipher option on Whispering Madness is nice for the flexibility.

I initially had Deep Analysis and Sever the Bloodline in my first draft of this list but ended up cutting them for other cards. I still really want to include Sever the Bloodline as it is pretty decent removal and the flashback option is great, but I'm not sure what I would cut at the moment. I don't know how I missed Cackling Counterpart when building this, I'll have to figure out what I'm dropping but I definitely want to add him in so thanks for that suggestion.

I'm not too keen on Greenwarden of Murasa due to his CMC and the fact that he's $1.00 at the moment. I would definitely include him if it brought them to the battlefield instead of my hand, is there anything like him that does that I'm not already running?

Bitter Revelation and Mental Note seem a bit underwhelming to me, I feel like it's kinda like a less impactful Tracker's Instincts/Commune with the Gods/Forbidden Alchemy/Grisly Salvage but having a few more similar options might be good. I'll have to play the deck a few times and get a feel before I decide on that.

I 100% agree on Chronic Flooding, I like that it's more controlled and you don't have to worry about it decking you too much, gonna swap those out for each other.

I kinda feel the same about Corpse Churn as I did with Mental Note ect above, still I'll have to test the deck a few times to see if it needs more recurring options of that kind.

Embalmer's Tools was another card I had in the first draft of this list that I ended up cutting, it's another card I definitely want to include but am not sure what to cut, probably going to end up dropping Blossoming Wreath as you suggested earlier as I agree that it's not that impactful/worth taking up a slot so I might put it in to replace that.

Fact or Fiction and Epiphany at the Drownyard are both great cards, just need to make room for them, probably going to drop Feldon's Cane since I wont be as worried about decking myself without Curse of the Bloody Tome to make room for one of these.

Extractor Demon is already in the list haha, but yeah very good.

I'm liking Gather the Pack probably going to drop something like Wreath of Geists because I feel like there's already enough options for +x/+x per creature in graveyard in the deck already but we'll see.

Thanks again for the feedback.

Sweech on Salt Sisters (Now with 80% more sodium)

1 month ago

I really like the look and idea behind this deck and am interested in trying it out for myself.

My initial thoughts are this:

Yahenni, Undying Partisan combos quite well with all the opponents dying tokens to make a hasty, beefy, indestructible possible wincon. The sac outlet also plays quite well with Blood Artist.

Have you thought about cutting out the Soul Sisters elements of this deck and considered going for a full out damage idea instead? Opting for a full 4 of Blood Artist (which I consider to be one of the most powerful creatures) and Blood Seeker (or something else). Would also go with my earlier Yahenni suggestion to get more aggressive.

I would also consider cutting blue. Swan Song is decent, but replaceable and the biggest reason to play blue is Hunted Phantasm which is the strongest of the "hunted" cards - as it can rumble for unblockable damage and 5 1/1 tokens combos with the rest of the deck nicely. That said I'd consider opting for Hunted Horror or Hunted Troll (if you went green instead of blue). The Hunted Horror only makes 2 3/3s which is the weakest token production, but a 7/7 trampler could be better for just simply racing your opponent for damage which is what I think this deck has the better potential to actually do. Making this deck more closely resemble RDWs with Hunted Horror acting almost as a Ball Lightning type creature.

I know I'm advocating cutting blue to make the deck run smoother, but as someone already suggested Commune with the Gods would go really well in this deck as your best cards happen to be creatures and enchantments that all combo with one another. If blue was kept instead of green Forbidden Alchemy essentially would do the same job. If either of these were used Return to the Ranks could be an option as it fits the CMC especially if you were using Hunted Horrors. Or even run both Hunteds.

Conversely you could also consider cutting white strangely enough. I already think cutting the Soul sisters is a good idea as they aren't quite as good in a deck not dedicated to life gain. Ghostly Prison is also cuttable/replaceable and I don't think 4 are necessary anyway. That said I really like what Suture Priest does in this deck and she alone somewhat makes me want to keep white. Essence Warden could be used as well if you still desire the effect but want to go more B/G.

Other cards I thought of:Bile Blight, Zulaport Cutthroat, Collective Brutality, Zealous Persecution, Virulent Plague, Bloodcrazed Paladin (similar to Yaheni), Ruin Raider, Toshiro Umezawa - Not for this deck, but one with more instants especially Mercy Killing and Forbidden Alchemycould be interesting.

Sorry for the long comment, but I really like the deck and the idea and think there's a lot of ways you could go with it - hence all my suggestions! Especially adding Yahenni, Undying Partisan who I think would do a lot in a deck like this.

Happy brewing! :)

Rzepkanut on Kess Me Kess Me Kess Me

3 months ago

I like Kess a lot. Been thinking about building one myself. Got some ideas looking at yours. If you liked Deranged assistant, you'll like Millikin. Mental Note, Strategic Planning, Thought Scour, Forbidden Alchemy seem like more synergistic cards than some of the other cantrips and self mill...especially Traumatize which doesn't even draw a card. Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir and Pendrell Mists are probably good vs those commanders you mentioned playing against a lot. If you can handle it Arcane Laboratory will really slow down things for everyone and basically shuts down Rashmi. Carpet of Flowers and Hibernation seems petty good vs them too lol. Metallurgic Summonings is like an auto include in any spellslinger build. Mystic Retrieval is an upgrade on call to mind. Rite of Replication is a great card for decks like this. Mind's Dilation, Melek, Izzet Paragon & Future Sight can help you keep up with your opponents getting free stuff all the time.

KatsuShibata on Demigod of Dunks

3 months ago

I haven't given it much thought, but at a glance I would consider running Collective Brutality or Bloodghast instead of Sultai Skullkeeper and Bone Picker, maybe change Forbidden Alchemy for Strategic Planning, trying to come up with a better plan, let me know what you think and I'll give you some more insight when I have time.

SteelSentry on Sidisi sultai deck, send help

4 months ago

You said you wanted more blue/green cards, but i'm not exactly sure what you want. This is a solid zombie deck, even if it is heavy black. If you want to lean more Simic over black, you could run more filtering like Fact or Fiction, Forbidden Alchemy, and Grisly Salvage, and card draw like Deep Analysis. However, it would involve cutting some of your zombie synergy. Nagas in Paris is my Sidisi deck, I have the colors about 1/3 each, because I am running self-mill/reanimator instead of a zombie theme.

I think your colors are fine, don't worry too much. Cutting black for the sake of cutting black will only dilute your synergy.

If you want ramp, you can add more green. Things like Cultivate, Rampant Growth and the new Hour of Promise are staples in green, but my personal choice for Sidisi is mana dorks, since milling them gets you a zombie. Birds of Paradise, Llanowar Elves, Sakura-Tribe Elder etc. I think Urborg Elf is a budget sleeper for Sultai, since it taps for all 3 colors.

SteelSentry on HELP!!! B/G/U Zombie Mill

4 months ago

It's not technically mill, but things like Grisly Salvage, Fact or Fiction, and Forbidden Alchemy do get you zombies if you bin a creature.

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