Lightning Mauler

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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Archenemy Legal
Arena Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Gladiator Legal
Highlander Legal
Historic Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Planechase Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Lightning Mauler

Creature — Human Berserker

Soulbond As long as Lightning Mauler is paired with another creature, both creatures have haste.

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3 years ago

Hey, you're welcome. Good update.

Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir lets you mutate at instant speed which can be powerful. Just as good is it also protects the creature you want to mutate to on your turn since your opponents can't cast instant removal in response. Kykar, Wind's Fury can create 1/1 Spirits who fly who can be mutate targets. Kykar triggers when an enchantment/artifact is cast by Vadrok. Spirits tokens can also be used as ramp.

Seal of Removal can be cast with Vadrok and it can be repeatable creature bounce at instant speed for the mutate pile. Waterfront Bouncer doesn't have protection, but at instant speed can bounce itself and if it's mutated the entire mutate pile.

Lightning Mauler's soulbound haste can change creatures which can be helpful when mutating. You want to be bouncing Vadrok, but when doing this you also bounce the other creatures in the mutate pile. You want to be able to cast a creature to mutate Vadrok to and cast Vadrok all on the same turn. Being able to give the mutate pile haste with Mauler can attack with the mutate pile before bouncing it again.


Cards to consider cutting:

In my opinion six CMC mutate costs are too much for what you get with Arch and Snatcher. The lockets are lackluster.

ZendikariWol on

4 years ago

Lightning Mauler- it's just a 2/1, unless you cast it off of Burning-Tree.

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4 years ago

Hey, nice work in progress at upgrading the precon :)

I don't know what the meta you play in is like, but what I can give you is overall advice on how to upgrade the precon. What the precon needs is early game ramp, tutors, haste enablers for Ghired and repeatable protection for Ghired in combat so he can safely attack and populate. Rhinos are really the only threat you need as long as you can keep attacking with Ghired.

Cards within the budget to consider adding:

A problem with the precon is the high avg. CMC which is 3.9. This number means that consistently four drops or higher CMC cards will be in your hand which is very slow. Early game you don't want lots of four or higher CMC cards in your hand because you will not be able to cast them. Adding low mana cost ramp by cutting high mana cost cards can help to reduce this number.

There's a lot of high CMC cards here, in fact there's 36 four or higher CMC cards which is too much. There's a lot of high CMC threats and I don't think you need all of them. Instead of playing so many high CMC threats replace some of them with tutors which can get you the better cards/threats into your hand.


To be more competitive I would expand on combos and use most of the high CMC card spots for more combo cards rather than big creature threats. You have done this some what already by adding Purphoros, Helm for Aurelia and Godo, but consider expanding further. Cards for combos to consider adding:

Combos that go with these cards:

  • Kiki + Helm + Purphoros or Tremors for infinite damage.
  • Kiki + Conscripts infinite hasty token Conscripts to attack. Add Purphoros or Tremors for infinite damage.

Outside of combos Kiki is good with populate because he can make a token copy of a nonlegendary creature and if you populate the token then that token doesn't go away at end of the turn. Kiki combos with Helm for infinite Kikis since the token copy of Kiki that's created by Helm is not legendary which allows Kiki to copy it.

  • Assault + Umbra + five lands for infinite combats.
  • Assault + Ventmaw for infinite combats and infinite green or red mana.

More infinite combat combos is good with Ghired because his power comes from him attacking. Outside of the combos Assault is a good card with Ghired because it can give you more attacks which is more populate.

A problem with Helm in all the combos, even Godo, is it's slow because you have to pay the five mana cost to equip it. Aid is a one drop which is worth including for Helm and Selves.

Good luck with your deck.

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4 years ago

Hey, what's the max budget you have to make upgrades?

It can be a long process to upgrade an entire precon. What the precon really lacks is ramp, tutors and cards for better interaction with Ghired. The manabase in the precon can be upgraded with better dual lands, but casually is actually fine the way it is. Draw sources is one thing that the precon has a lot of which is surprising.

This is a summary list of some budget cards ($5 or less each, most are less than $1) that I think would help your deck:


The avg. CMC (converted mana cost) of the precon is high at 3.9. This 3.9 number means that consistently you're not able to cast a spell until you have four mana sources and/or four lands which is slow. Consider reducing this number? Getting it down to 3.0 and then even lower after that. To do this consider cutting many high mana cost cards and replacing them with low mana cost ramp? Reducing the avg. CMC will speed up game play.

The most obvious upgrades to start with are adding more low mana cost ramp and tutors, but other upgrades to consider is how to make Ghired better overall for the deck since he's the Commander General. Casually Ghired is about attacking since he powers your deck's strategy by populating which he does when he attacks. Because attacking is important then consider strategies that can improve combat/attacking? Haste, extra combats and double strike are strong strategies with attacking.


I would make the Rhino the focus of the token population because it's big creature (4/4 trample) and is easily accessible because of Ghired. Because Ghired creates the Rhino token I don't think you need to go over the top with lots of other creatures or cards that create tokens. However, if relying more on Ghired and the Rhino token then consider more repeatable protection for Ghired to keep him alive on the battlefield. Not having to do combat damage with Ghired to populate is nice.

Not having to do combat damage means you can protect Ghired in combat so he survives while still populating a token since he attacked. If you can repeatedly protect Ghired in combat then you can keep safely attacking with him. Ghired needs to attack to populate which means he has to survive combat to be able to attack again. Protection for Ghired in combat is another area for upgrades to consider because you want Ghired to be able to keep attacking.


Extra combats are good with Ghired because he wants to be attacking and extra combats means you get to attack again or multiple times on your turn. Aggravated Assault + Savage Ventmaw is infinite combats which is infinite attacks. As long as Ventmaw can attack it makes six mana. Five of that mana can be used with Assault for an extra combat. At the extra combat Ventmaw will attack again and make six mana; use that mana with Assault and repeat. Without Ventmaw Assault is still a very good card because it can be repeatable for five mana on your turn you get to attack twice which can be a lot of Rhinos.

I offer more advice, more explanations about each of these suggestions, more detailed steps you can take to improve your deck, cards you could cut, etc. Would you like more advice?

Good luck with your deck.

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4 years ago

Hey, nice brew with new Atla.

Consider more haste?

With the expensive price manabase here with many Forest dual lands Nature's Lore is an upgrade for Farseek . Consider replacing Cultivate and Reach with two drop mana rocks: Talisman of Impulse , Talisman of Unity , Talisman of Conviction ? Consider Open the Armory or Stoneforge Mystic ? It's another tutor that can get one of Greaves, Skullclamp, Staff, Boots.

I think Regal Behemoth is a better Mirari's Wake or Zendikar Resurgent with Atla. In fact consider cutting both of these cards for Regal? It's a creature, gives you the monarch (draw) and it has the same land bonus ability. The +1/+1 that Wake gives all your creatures can be detrimental if you're trying to use Skullclamp to sac 0/1 Eggs which is an excellent source of both card draw and cheating creatures onto the battlefield. It's broken, anything that makes this interaction worse I wouldn't include.


Cards to consider cutting:

multimedia on Lovisa Coldeyes rushdown

4 years ago

Hey, saw your forum topic asking for help. Looks nice, good start and a budget of less than $100, well done :)

Lovisa is all about attacking because her ability pumps your creatures therefore you want to have a well established army of creatures before you play Lovisa. You've done a good job with including many two drop and three drop creatures, but 18 four drops and 13 five drops is too much. I also don't think any of the six and seven drops are good enough to risk having one of them stuck in your hand in the early and mid game. My advice is cut a large amount of these cards for more one, two and three drops.

Budget cards $3 or less each to consider adding:

Others to consider:

Can add all these cards for about $18. Also consider adding a few more Mountains as 26 lands is a low total amount. Try 30 Mountains, Ghitu Encampment and Rogues Passage for a total of 32 lands. Temple of the False God is not worth playing in a deck that doesn't have any land ramp. Can't afford to have a land that can't make mana, does nothing, to cast early game two and three drop creatures.


There's a lot of red cards that can give you repeatable pseudo draw each turn; key word here is repeatable. Not draw, but can exile the top card of your library and you may play that card until end of turn. These cards are helpful because mono red has a tendency to run out of cards in your hand fast.

Many of these cards are four drops which means if I was building this deck I would reserve the four drop spots for some of these cards. Experimental Frenzy is good with many low mana cost creatures allowing you to play them from the top of your library. Lovisa gives your creatures haste meaning when you play them from the top of your library you can attack with them. You can potentially chain play a lot of creatures with Frenzy and attack with all of them, that's good with Lovisa.

Countryside Crusher can help to take away a drawback of Frenzy as well as help to not draw so many lands which can happen when playing 30 basic lands. With Frenzy if you hit two lands in a row on the top of your library then you're done playing spells from the top for your turn. Since you can't play more than one land per turn. You're able to play the first land you see on the top of your library, but not the second.

At your upkeep if Crusher sees a land on the top of your library you put it into your graveyard and you can do this as many times in a row as lands you have on top of your library each time Crusher gets bigger. Crusher also can get bigger when you discard land cards such as from Neheb, Dreadhorde Champion or Tormenting Voice, etc.

Good luck with your deck.

Coward_Token on Giving narset, enlightened master haste

5 years ago

Some more or less obvious options that haven't been mentioned yet: Racecourse Fury , Ring of Valkas (if you don't care about creatures other than Narset, it's better than Swiftfoot Boots since she already has hexproof), Dragon Breath , Lightning Mauler , Fervor , Anger . (I personally prefer my haste sources to not cost additional mana.)

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