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Price of Progress
Price of Progress deals 2 damage to each player for each nonbasic land he or she controls.
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Price of Progress Discussion
1 week ago
Summary of first round of changes:
The three cards I cut had no plan to truly benefit from them. As mentioned previously, Words of Waste felt bad to draw and I never wanted to activate it in both optimal and sub-optimal conditions. It's not a good card to draw when you're about to die. Portcullis is a semi-stax kind of card, which I originally intended to include based on the optimal situation of playing a turn 3 Xantcha into a turn 4 Portcullis, aiming to keep Xantcha as the primary threat on the table. Ultimately it just isn't impactful enough, and would be a terrible late-game draw. Finally, Bottomless Pit, meant to encourage Xantcha activations, would hurt me just as much as others.
The three cards I included are all reactive. My playgroup packs solid board wipes, so there's a lot of potential value to be gained from Thrilling Encore. One of the highlights of the first game I played with the deck was targeting an opponent's Expropriate with a Reverberate. With Wild Ricochet, being able to redirect an opponent's spell in the mid to late game -- and/or copying its effect -- can serve many different purposes. Finally, Price of Progress is a way to end the game, though I will definitely need to retool my mana base so I'm not killing myself in the process.
1 month ago
The Taiga, and Stomping Ground doesn't make sense to me, it seems a little unnecessary and a bit detrimental due to Price of Progress. you can even cast the green specific cards without green, I can understand the moxes in aggre, but I would imagine basic mountains all the way through would be where its at.
I guess I'm just curious as to the decision made here.
1 month ago
Yes, Nahiri, the Harbinger would be usefull because of her first and second ability. Mizzix's Mastery can be a blowout when cards like Star of Extinction and Price of Progress are in the yard, but maybe I'd have to cut some x-spells to utilize it consistently. Thanks for your suggestions!
1 month ago
If you want to "ramp" Extraplanar Lens is a good card and if you swap Mountain for Snow-Covered Mountain (that's preferable for lens) Scrying Sheets is very usefull. Price of Progress is another good card for this strategy. Never tried Blasphemous Act + Repercussion!!
1 month ago
I had conidered all of those projectneptune, and I don't think that they would add what you think they would add. I will go through each.
Glacial Chasm - This card has way too many downsides. The Cumulative Upkeep alone is out of control. Additive life loss becomes huge. T1 is 2, T2 is 6, T3 is 12, T4 is 20. Half your starting life to reach 4 more turns is pretty huge. On top of that, it costs 2 land drops to use. This can be huge, and combined with the life loss it is not something you just put out to be prepared. It also prevents some of my offense. If I want to play a Master of Cruelties or Virtus the Veiled for an attempt at a win, I need to advertise the play and expose myself for a full round ahead in order to be able to attack with it, and that doesn't even count the Insurrection play. In all, I have much better options. Other decks that are built to abuse it would be a better home for it.
Leave // Chance - That is a very narrow set of circumstances that makes it worthwhile. Board wipes happen, but I would rather counter, Boros Charm, Teferi's Protection , or just recover faster with new threats. Even a Replenish or Yawgmoth's Will would probably do me much better.
Archfiend of Despair - As a budget option, I can see this being fine. As it stands, I like my other options. They body is a liability compared to the durability of an enchantment, and the Academy Rector to Wound Reflection is an awesome play.
Cleansing - This card is much less a third Price of Progress/Acidic Soil than you think. I looked at this card early on, as soon as I saw the power of Price of Progress. Unfortunately, it is not nearly good enough. Giving the opponent choices makes it basically useless. Acidic Soil has to be held until they are really beat down or they have 15 lands to make it worthwhile, and usually only comes out as a finisher. I actually wish I had a better option than Acidic Soil, and Cleansing is no Acidic Soil. Here's how it would play. Wait until mid to late game so it actually matters. In the mid game playing it means that they take maybe 5-7 damage or so, and keep their board state. That is not nearly enough to change a game. Late game it matters even less. Even if they are pretty low, Say 15 life and 15 lands, they will sacrifice only their worst lands, they will keep enough to retaliate hard, and they will take 6-8 damage, leaving themselves with a Gaea's Cradle, an Ancient Tomb, two dual lands, an Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth and a Maze of Ith. That is not nearly good enough an effect to warrant the slot. This is also my problem with Torment of Hailfire. Give them choices and they will find a way out of losing. If Cleansing did 3 damage per land saved, it would be worth it. For 1 damage, it is too little to matter.
1 month ago
I did a brief read-through of your deck description and objectives. I wasn't familiar with the term "Aikido" until after I read it here. I run a full-focused combo deck and the term Aikido seems at odd ends with Combo since stopping the combo will mean disrupting your opponent's board-state.
There isn't any card that just turns off combo since combo strategies could rely on graveyard or storm or infinite token loops or infinite mana use. An excellent card you might want to consider that can help fall in line with Aikido would be Damping Sphere which hits hard against decks that try to storm out for the win. A good way to deal with graveyard-based combos could be Mimic Vat which not only can serve as a good deterrent, but it's triggered ability can stop a graveyard loop when in a pinch. Lastly if someone aims a lethal spell at you that deals infinite damage or infinite loss of life or forces you to draw infinite cards I've found that cards like Fork and Reverberate are excellent ways of turning those spells against their caster and not only that, but if they die to your copy that effectively exiles their original spell before it ever resolves saving you in the process. Fork and Reverberate are also good at giving your Price of Progress or Backlash more of an edge and can stop counter spells as well.
If you mind can you tell me what combos you're up against? I might be able to come up with a suggestion better suited to your meta. Also I noticed you have Vampire Nighthawk listed as a win condition which I found a bit amusing and out of place. Could you tell me what significance it holds in your deck? If you're looking for an effective aerial blocker I think Mischievous Poltergeist does the trick trading lethality for durability. Also if you have any issues with creatures trampling you to death you might want to consider Dead-Iron Sledge which practically works like super deathtouch killing the creature before combat damage.
2 months ago
Agreed StopShot. It was an easy include for me when I saw it.
MegaMatt13, I know we have different metas, and I also know that we have different amounts and styles of pillow fort for our decks, but I am always surprised to hear how Price of Progress isn't pulling weight for you like it does for me. I may win more with Price of Progress than anything else. With some damage prevention or delay, it is a huge asymmetric bomb. 10-20 damage per opponent at instant speed is not uncommon. It can be dangerous to play, but basically so can just about everything in the deck. Played at the right time, I win. I get your meta issues, but it may be the most efficient damage dealer in my meta.