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Creature — Human Soldier
When Thalia's Lieutenant enters the battlefield, put a +1/+1 counter on each other Human you control.
Whenever another Human enters the battlefield under your control, put a +1/+1 counter on Thalia's Lieutenant.
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Thalia's Lieutenant Discussion
2 days ago
The price was one complaint, the deck isn't good at teaching. I am still confused as to the point of Mutavault, and I had been playing for two months (1 month since I was introduced to modern). This is the deck I know the most about, having been playing mono-white soldier tribal for the majority of my time in modern. I have beaten plenty of decks with them, and I know that Mutavault isn't a good fit. Hanweir Garrison very well with Champion of the Parish and Thalia's Lieutenant, and then you can get Hanweir Battlements as well. Boros is great with humans (Thatcher Revolt) for buffing the Champion of the Parish and Thalia's Lieutenant, other than that in red think Kessig Malcontents, Riot Ringleader and much more.
There is much more than just the price I had an issue with.
2 days ago
At 300 dollars this comes as no surprise that a new player can't put this together. An experienced player would need to fork over hundreds if not thousands of dollars to make all of these decks, and for 40-card decks that aren't in a real format, and aren't actually playable is not worth it for either side. This deck is more expensive than decks that actually win in modern, like Bogle, and though can be formed into a real deck, expensive cards like Kytheon have to be taken out.
The high amount of legendaries and useless cards like Mutavault (Doesn't get Honor of the Pure, Thalia's Lieutenant, or Champion of the Parish bonuses/triggers), and no Lords just shows aggro, no serious tribal synergy.
The point is these decks are overpriced, underpowered, and unplayable. This one tries to teach too many things (Aggro, Tribal, Synergy, Counters, Land Base, and maybe Mana Curve) and in doing so teaches only one (Aggro).
5 days ago
If you're going for humans, I'd recommend a set of Thalia's Lieutenant to go along with Champion of the Parish. These lords make Thraben Doomsayer and Gather the Townsfolk strong. Other anthem effects include Door of Destinies, Obelisk of Urd, Adaptive Automaton, and Metallic Mimic. Path to Exile is the standard for removal, but I find Condemn to be fine as well.
1 week ago
Thanks for reply. My issue with death shadow is cards like Thoughtseize, Inquisition of Kozilek, and Fatal Push. Those cards kill my creatures before being able to even hit the battlefield. Similarly, even if my creatures buff Champion of the Parish and Thalia's Lieutenant to be 5/5's (for example), fatal push just kills it and I can't do anything about it. Furthermore Snapcaster Mage can play all those cards twice, which is an obvious problem.
The instant cards are there to speed up my attacks. If I swing with all my creatures and leave no blockers, I can use Angelsong to prevent damage the next turn. Similarly Brave the Elements can protect my creatures and allow them to swing without being blocked. I have had trouble with counter spells stopping my creatures so I included Cavern of Souls.
1 week ago
Thanx for your comment, CaptSillva.
I'm well aware of Darkest Hour power level in Teysa, but I am trying to keep this deck from going infinite (due to my playgroup, and the ammount of my other combo-EDH decks) and leave it more creature-based (occasionally Ashnod's Altar + Nim Deathmantle do combo off, but it's not the main win con.)
Ranger of Eos is great suggestion. I wonder how i missed that one. Will try to get him ASAP.
Champion of the Parish and Thalia's Lieutenant - they are nice human tribal cards, but I do not think they are what I am looking for. Champion of the Parish is too slow for a fatty, and Thalia's Lieutenant has some dissynergy with Skullclamp
1 week ago
2 weeks ago
2 weeks ago
And as for Kytheon, I did have him in originally, but decided I wanted to limit the number of creatures that miss out on all the Warrior buffs and tricks, cutting all but Thalia's Lieutenant and Champion of the Parish, which are just too powerful to ignore. That said I may come back to Kytheon as a 1-2 of at some point, and I would always run him in a build with a reduced number of Warrior buffs.