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Counter target spell.
Flashback [[symbol:5] (You may cast this card from your graveyard for its flashback cost. Then exile it.)
Fervent Denial Discussion
2 months ago
multimedia I was looking at building Mizzix deck here (non lab man version) with the flash back theme leaked I figure I would wait and see and I already know the main commander is meh.
Then you start looking and bam Elsha of the Infinite and now I am torn do i build a deck around her instead of Mizzix because it looks like you can have some real fun with her.
Now I really like some of the cards in Mystic Intellect deck but the deck screams terrible.
Really your only counter spell is a 5 cost piece of hot garbage with a 7 cost buy back basically you have no real counter spells in a deck focused on spells that has blue. Really wizards you would have been better of putting old school counterspell which is a common and cheap and a classic commander card as the only counterspell instead you put one of the worse flashback cards ever designed in the deck Fervent Denial
1 year ago
Thank you very much! I am glad you like the list. It s a fun deck and can be powerful, but to be more competitive it needs some spells to counter the graveyard hate. Often you will encounter Bojuka Bog, Relic of Progenitus, Rest in Peace, Leyline of the Void, Scavenging Ooze, and Deathrite Shaman to name a few. Some cards to consider are:
Next up are cards you can swap in that are not as expensive to acquire.
To allow for the anti graveyard hate cards listed above, I would consider cutting for budgetary reasons: Yawgmoth's Will, Rise of the Dark Realms, Survival of the Fittest, Sylvan Scrying, Diabolic Servitude, Entomb, Coffin Queen.
You can change a lot of cards in the list aside from those mentioned here. Two cards I would not change and would pick up as they are very useful in the list are Volrath's Stronghold and Phyrexian Tower. You can sacrifice a creature to the tower gaining 2 black mana and use that mana to activate the stronghold to put the sacrificed creature back on top of your library. Volrath's Stronghold by itself is also a way to save at least one creature from your graveyard from getting exiled as mentioned in the graveyard hate you would face.
This should give a good sense of what type of cards to think about and try. I have used many of these cards on my way to getting to the list today. Another two good cards that are rarely bad are Wurmcoil Engine and Batterskull. Just good Value cards. Batterskull is not a creature to reanimate, but it is a creature when the artifact enters the battlefield. I hope this helps!
2 years ago
Major issues detected if too many players (6 players during the playtest) :
Sunscorch Regent --> too powerful ?
Fervent Denial --> too much question about "priority" : it seems that instant cards with flashback are not a great idea here.
3 years ago
Surrak_and_Roll You make some interesting points for Grim Flowering vs. Sphinx of Lost Truths. When casting the Sphinx I rarely pay the kicker cost unless its very late in the game. The draw/discard is still incredibly powerful as it gets rid of Dredge creatures/graveyard enablers that are stuck in your hand and generally helps filter unwanted cards. It being a creature is an added bonus as it enables Sidisi triggers and is able to be recurred easily. I've been happy with it so far but I'll try swapping it out for Grim Flowering to see how it plays. Thanks for the thoughts!
As far as flex spots go, I mostly consider Fervent Denial, Gnaw to the Bone, Shriekmaw, and Oversold Cemetery to be non-essential role players than can be moved around a bit. That being said, every card is replaceable so long as you maintain approximately 8 mana accelerates, 2 Board clears, 3-4 instant speed disruption spells, 8-10 card draw spells/abilities, and 4 utility creatures/spells. Those are my general goals when building all my decks. With this specific deck I'd generally avoid going below 36 creatures in order to best utilize Sidisi triggers.
3 years ago
Be a terrible person with Buyback, Flashback, and all their friends! Mizzix reduces the cost of all alternate casting costs. (Also reduced Awaken, but I didn't include anything with that, because I know how much a fan you are, and I think you have most the good Overload)
Buyback:Capsize, Reiterate, Spell Burst, Whispers of the MuseFlashback:Lightning Surge, Cackling Counterpart, Devil's Play, Fervent Denial, Increasing Vengeance, Past in Flames, Recoup, Volley of BouldersKicker:Elemental Appeal, Illuminate, Into the Roil, Jilt, Molten Disaster, Spell Contortion
Denying Wind, Searing Wind, Insurrection, Temporal Trespass, Volcanic Vision, Aether Gale, Crush of Tentacles, Fall of the Titans, Mindswipe, Counterlash, Izzet Cluestone (and other colored mana generation), Reality Shift, Fissure, Rapid Hybridization, Pongify, Comparative Analysis, Tezzeret's Gambit, Mirrorpool, Scour from Existence, Dig Through Time, Treasure Cruise, All Is Dust, Mnemonic Wall, Archaeomancer, Izzet Chronarch also feel free to look at Niv's counterspell list.
Seal of the Guildpact, Artificer's Epiphany, Mystic Confluence, Repeal, Thirst for Knowledge, Meteor Blast, Arjun, the Shifting Flame, Barrin, Master Wizard, Broodbirth Viper, Dragon Mage, Etherium-Horn Sorcerer, Gigantoplasm, Illusory Ambusher, Lone Revenant, Warchief Giant, Rite of the Raging Storm, Thopter Spy Network, Thought Reflection
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