|Commander / EDH||Legal|
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|Commander 2018 (C18)||Common|
|Commander 2017 (C17)||Common|
|Commander 2014 (C14)||Common|
|Duel Decks: Jace vs. Vraska (DDM)||Common|
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Into the Roil
Kicker [symbol:1 (You may pay an additional as you cast this spell.)
Return target nonland permanent to its owner's hand. If Into the Roil was kicked, draw a card.
Into the Roil Discussion
3 weeks ago
------ Not Viable for DCMD, Extremely slow or just bad to the bone... 20HP mate...
++++++ Gucci 80% - 100% + played cards in Jeskai, Also Auto-includes!
42 Lands GucciBass
12 Obvious DCMD cuts but okay for the slower MTGO1v1Cmdr :
1 month ago
@ ToffMcSoft If your reasoning for returning Aetherflux Reservoir to the list is that Cursed Totem is a problem when you are far more likely to find an opponent with Stony Silence , Null Rod , or Karn, the Great Creator then you've only increased your difficulties on average over an arbitrary sample size set of games. You'd be better off, using that reasoning, adding in a card like Into the Roil to help find a way around all of those cards than to opt into either of 2 choices where neither one deals with any of those cards.
1 month ago
So I'm not entirely sure how you play to win with Laboratory Maniac or Jace, Wielder of Mysteries . All the builds I've had with those cards use Demonic Consultation or Tainted Pact to exile their library, but I'm not sure how you plan to do that here outside using Sensei's Divining Top . I'm assuming I'm missing something. However, I've found that usually only one of those effects is necessary, so I'd consider cutting one of them (probably the Laboratory Maniac , as Jace, Wielder of Mysteries has applicability even if you're not going off).
Typically in EDH, I try to run around 33 or 34 lands. I've never been impressed with Halimar Depths , mainly because it ETBs tapped and blue has better top-deck manipulation in the form of Brainstorm , Ponder , Preordain and the like. So Halimar Depths is another card I'd consider cutting.
I've never been impressed with the card Dream Cache . It rearranges the cards in your hand, but it doesn't provide any card advantage for three mana; if it were one or even two mana, I'd consider it. But as things stand, I recommend cutting it. Portent is another card I'd cut. The delayed draw is really significantly worse than an immediate draw, and I don't think you need all of the possible one-mana cantrips.
Most of your instant spells have only or in their mana cost; therefore, redundant cost-reducers don't do much. Baral, Chief of Compliance and Sapphire Medallion are an excellent cards, but I don't think Primal Amulet Flip or Curious Homunculus Flip are quite good enough. I do see that Capsize gets a BIG bonus from several cost-reducers, but I don't think that's quite a good enough reason to run as many as you do. Arcane Melee would be my first card to cut, simply because it's symmetrical, and you're effectively ramping your opponents. I suggest running ramp like Coldsteel Heart , Sky Diamond and Mind Stone , as these tend to be cheaper than cost-reduces and the first two generate blue mana. These have the added bonus of being rocks to use with the dramatic scepter combo.
I think you're running slightly too much spot removal. Kasmina's Transmutation is good, as are all of your bounce spells, but I think running more than 3 or 4 is too much. So I'd suggest cutting Into the Roil or Blink of an Eye . Typically, trading one-for-ones in EDH isn't great, as you usually have three opponents.
I'd cut Rise from the Tides . I feel like just having a Talrand, Sky Summoner is good enough for this effect, and Rise from the Tides creates the tokens tapped for more mana than it's typically worth. Similarly, you may want to cut Docent of Perfection Flip.
I'd cut Rewind . Four mana is a lot to leave up at the end of your turn, especially since mono-blue doesn't exactly have an abundance of ramp magic. You have plenty of two-mana counters.
Swiftfoot Boots is a card I'd consider cutting. I don't think your general, while powerful, is going to draw the same amount of removal as Arcum Dagsson or Zur the Enchanter , so I think your counter-magic should be enough to protect you.
Generally, in combo decks, you want to focus in on the combo and tutoring it out. Whir of Invention and Reshape are worth considering as methods to tutor out Isochron Scepter ; I see you already have a lot of ways to tutor the Dramatic Reversal . I advise cutting out the cards in your deck that are not focused in on fetching and resolving that combo, as these will speed up your deck and make you a more potent threat earlier in the game.
1 month ago
Hi Jayd0nlink thx for the suggestions. I think I am going to try to get lands under 1 dollar. I think I am going to add Seat of the Synod . Cascading Cataracts is a nice choice I am going to add. Since this deck is trying to get other peoples cards, I need the opponent to have cards I want. I want to take out Oloro, Ageless Ascetic , also Colossus of Akros . I know Blightsteel Colossus is an amazing add, but its not really a necessary card. Wurmcoil Engine is also usually a automatic add in most EDH decks but, ehhh, I think its going in my Daretti deck. Coastal Breach technically is not necessary. I would rather use target removal, or bounce.
Cards going in------------------------------------------------------------------------
Cards going out----------------------------------------------------------------------- - Blightsteel Colossus - Oloro, Ageless Ascetic - Colossus of Akros - Wurmcoil Engine - Coastal Breach - Inkwell Leviathan - Scoured Barrens - Persuasion
THX for all the suggestions. IF you could tell me how its looking, that would be great. Again, just in case, this deck utilizes other peoples cards, and hands,bouncing stuff they already casted. Letting them draw cards for our use. Helm of the Host can do wonky stuff with our commander, letting us control other peoples hands, more than one.
2 months ago
The amass mechanic could be useful here. This may help against sac abilities your opponents may play. Sac'ing Army tokens rather than your commander seems good.
2 months ago
2 months ago
- Devastation Tide
- Ertai's Meddling
- Gitaxian Probe
- Glimmer of Genius
- Into the Roil
- Jace's Sanctum
- Runechanter's Pike
3 months ago
Adding black would also let you run cards like Nekusar, the Mindrazer , Fate Unraveler , Kederekt Parasite , etc... as alternate win cons in case you lose your Smothering Tithe. Right now I'm a bit concerned that it's vulnerable to exile when Return to Dust and Merciless Eviction are format staples. Something like Into the Roil or Chain of Vapor would help you rescue your Smothering Tithe in that event. Barrin, Master Wizard would also be excellent for getting added utility out of your treasures.
Into the Roil occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.02%