Disciple of the Ring
Creature — Human Wizard
, Exile an instant or sorcery card from your graveyard: Choose one —
- Counter target noncreature spell unless its controller pays
- Disciple of the Ring gets +1/+1 until end of turn.
- Tap target creature.
- Untap target creature.
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|Magic Origins (ORI)||Mythic Rare|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Disciple of the Ring occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.0%
Disciple of the Ring Discussion
2 months ago
4 months ago
Given no context I found these in under 30 minutes
Izoni, Thousand-Eyed , Hatchery Spider , Mausoleum Secrets , Molderhulk , Alesha, Who Smiles at Death , Apprentice Necromancer , Mindwrack Demon , Manic Scribe , Inexorable Blob , To the Slaughter , Epicenter , Kirtar's Wrath , Putrid Imp , Stitch Together , Shower of Coals , Repentant Vampire , Wayward Angel , Bloodbond March , Blood for Bones , Brawn , Charnelhoard Wurm , Charnel Troll , Circular Logic , Corrupted Grafstone , Corpseweft , Countervailing Winds , Crackling Drake , Crop Sigil , Dance of the Manse , Disciple of the Ring , Tasigur's Cruelty , Tasigur, the Golden Fang , Treasure Cruise , Sibsig Muckdraggers , Rite of Undoing , Empty the Pits , Magmatic Sinkhole , Murderous Cut , Logic Knot , Necropolis Fiend
4 months ago
deli; Dreamscape Artist is an awesome budget creature for this type of deck, but I don't look at him or similar cards (like Journeyer's Kite ) as "ramp" (ei. Accelerating the amount of mana available each turn), but rather a sort of card selection / advantage / colour fixing. Noyan wants to hit his land drops every single turn, since your (land) creature count is your main wincon and defense.
Unstable Obelisk , Jace's Sanctum and the deck's creature untapping spells are the only true ramp spells we have (and sometimes Disciple of the Ring and land untappers if you have a Karou land animated), but stalling the game to turns >7 is easy enough to justify a higher land count over true ramp spells.
If you're playing a landfall / land reanimation list, or are otherwise in Blue colours outside of Green, Dreamscape Artist is pretty decent for his pricepoint
9 months ago
Looking at some random cards on the database I saw Disciple of the Ring . Could be fun.
Those are all possibilities. I'm not particularly knowledgeable about self-mill.
Also, and I know many would disagree with this, but I have a soft spot for Fog Bank .
10 months ago
Thanks for the suggestions, but unfortunately none of them are good enough to make the cut!
Kiora, Behemoth Beckoner is only drawing a card on 4 different creatures entering, Woodland Bellower Great Oak Guardian Terastodon , and any of those entering the battlefield means we're secure in our combo to victory, so a card isn't going to do much for us. The untap effect is nice, but paying 3 CMC for an untap we will use one time is too expensive for the deck. We also don't get synergy with Disciple of the Ring , which our instant/sorcery untaps do.
Umbral Mantle suffers from a similar situation. The idea of getting multiple untaps off one permanent is very appealing on our combo turn, but the price is simply too high. It costs 3 CMC to play, and 3 CMC for every untap after the inintial investment. Paying 6 CMC total for the first untap is simply unacceptable, even if we are able to split it into two smaller chunks on two different turns. Also doesn't combo with Disciple. Getting two or more untaps from it sounds very nice, but at the cost of 9 mana for 2 untaps we don't want to pay that price.
Fblthp, the Lost is a neat idea, but we really don't need card draw. It might have some usefulness in a future "draw your deck line" with hulk via Body Double Gigantoplasm Phantasmal Image and others, but I haven't been able to find an infinite Vannifar loop that makes it worthwhile to include all those slots in the deck. New printings in the future may make this a possibility, but it has to be better than the secondary hulk line in terms of slots and usefulness. Currently, Pili-Pala and Grand Architect are dead draws and also make us run Walking Ballista (we could cut down to only 5 different 0 drop creatures and be fine), so whatever replaces those 3 has to either be fewer slots or have higher usefulness outside combo in an actual game.
Craterhoof Behemoth looks better on paper than it is. We have to deal 120 damage (3 players x 40 life) in a swing, which means we have to have 10 other creatures without summoning sickness for Behemoth to be worthwhile (11 creatures total we can assume all 1/1's which get +10/+10, so 10 creatures x 11 power = 121 damage with some leeway as Craterhoof is a 5/5 and other creatures have higher than 1 power.) We don't have any lines that give our creatures haste, so we have to have 9 creatures that aren't Vannifar ready to swing on our combo turn. Avenger of Zendikar could possibly work, but we'd have to pass a turn before transmuting it away to make creatures combat ready. Grand Architect + Pili-Pala + Walking Ballista doesn't require a combat step, it will 100% always kill no matter if players gain life, and is an alternate wincon that fits through our Hulk package. Behemoth just doesn't make the cut.
1 year ago
1 year ago
Oh, I know very well how the pod line works. I've spent countless hours and tore out a lot of hair trying to figure out the most efficient way of assembling a chain to Hulk myself and it just hasn't worked in my favor at all because there isn't a great ETB untapper at 5 CMC. Tidewater Minion is fine. Chakram Retriever and Disciple of the Ring feel a little less conditional to me since they don't require a haste enabler, but they still aren't great.
1 year ago