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Mold Shambler Discussion
3 weeks ago
Some suggestions Verdant Force although big, you should be able to get enough mana as it makes tokens on every upkeep. Tendershoot Dryad is another one I would definitely recommend to add as the ascend trigger is super easy to go off from. Thelonite Hermit is another good one. Thallid Soothsayer is a bit slow but it gives card draw and goes with the theme. Mold Shambler is like a bad Reclamation Sage but goes with theme. Nemata, Grove Guardian is an interesting dude as he gives a worldly buff when going for the kill.
Hope these may help!
1 month ago
About the specific cards in the set:
Sharptooth Croc: He looks fairly balanced when compared to Two-Headed Zombie and Dross Crocodile, but for a Primal creature, I think the high power makes it too desirable to have Menace. To make it more of a choice, compared to the Zombie, I'd vote, make it a 3/2, Primal 1. Also, why does a Croc have the creature type "Alligator"?
Hunting Settlement: The ability that gives your creature Lifelink will prevent them from getting benefit from Muraganda Petroglyphs style-effects. I think that would be an unfortunate interaction. The ability should change.
Tibalt, Havoc-Bringer: should a mono-red planeswalker summon red and black critters?
Wooly Grazer: this ability would go perfect with Primal.
Ubo-luk's Idol: the wording is awkward, and the effect is insane powerful for the cost. It's like your own personal Wheel of Fate, but you're not forced to use it during a later upkeep, you can use it at any time. That card would be banned for the same reasons as Smuggler's Copter. Needs serious power reduction.
Ancient Gharial: They use the creature type Crocodile, now. Even Rootwater Alligator is officially a Crocodile in Oracle text.
Basking Plaeosaur: I'm not sure how much I like the "enter the battlefield" ability with Primal. IF you don't want to make it "Primal 2", then a sacrifice-type ability like Viridian Zealot would definitely be worth only +1/+1.
Bloodfall Axe: The equip cost is prohibitive. The Murderer's Axe cost worked because the set had a Madness theme. The effect is just Barbed Battlegear. It might work if it had a Skullclamp on death ability, to recover the cost.
Chieftain Ubo-Luk: I'd compare him to Sek'Kuar, Deathkeeper. He should make simple 1/1 red goblins (to stay on theme with "no abilities") whenever any nontoken creature you control dies, not just Goblins. I would say instead of giving an ability like Menace, (because it goes against the theme), it should be the simple "can't block" ability.
Clever Improvisor: It's insane that he makes better equipment than the Conch-tipped Spear. They should be +1/+1. Also, instead of making it every creature that enters the battlefield after him, just create 4 of them, kinda like a slower red Verdurous Gearhulk. Otherwise, there will be an ever-increasing supply of power that will never leave the battlefield.
Cloak of Leeches: I would say you should vote to avoid giving the creature an ability. Something like Blessing of Leeches would be interesting, since they no longer use regeneration.
Conch-tipped Spear: It's a No-Dachi. Can you do anything more on-theme, that doesn't give the equipped creature an ability?
Daelin's Spellbinder: This card seems almost too powerful. The "nontoken creature" thing is awkward. Can it be "discard a card" or something more elegant?
Diving Fluoraptor: His activated ability is too expensive. It could be the same as Bloodpyre Elemental without too much loss, or cost only 2 and stay instant.
Downpour: I think this effect has incredible potential. Instead of a sorcery with bulky rules text, an instant "Tap all Permanents" would basically be the same thing, with far more simplicity.
Egg Nabber: Just exile the card, and skip the craziness.
Encase in Magma: Cannot be allowed to enchant enchantments; it's not red's deal. It should just be a colorshifted Imprisoned in the Moon.
Enraging Provocation: I dislike having a temporary ability and a permanent effect on the same card. I don't have any examples of any cards that do this.
Enriching Pitcher Plant: Love it.
Enticing Pollen Spewer: I think it's too expensive, when we compare it to its symmetric counterpart: Rage Nimbus.
Fangs of the Terrosaur: Perfect equipment for this set.
Fight Once More: It seems out of place on a world where humans are basically cavemen. It would be more on theme with a set like Innistrad, but here it's not really on flavor with primitive tribal humans.
Flame-Spewing Ruckus: I don't understand how this card is meant to be used: the turn you play it, you could pump your two creatures with prowess triggers, but the goblin can't attack without Haste. It would be interesting to have an enchantment "whenever you play a noncreature spell, enchanted creature gets +1/+1 until end of turn" (because I don't think you want to avoid effects that give creatures abilities in this set).
Fossil Sage: This might not be the right card for this set, because reanimating a creature with an extra ability plays poorly with Primal. You will always want to not make the token Primal, so you can keep the indestructibility.
I'll write some more thoughts later, since I'm only up to F.
6 months ago
Everflowing Chalice acts as ramp and a kicker trigger
Comet Storm can be a game winner, or a board wipe, but it's also a kicker spell
Mold Shambler is removal and a trigger
Molten Disaster is an uncounterable trigger/ board wipe
Verdeloth the Ancient creates a big board with enough mana
A lot of bad kicker spells out there, but these are all semi playable.
I'd stay away from +1/+1 stuff because you're missing some crucial cards in white.
8 months ago
Are you wanting to push Saproling tokens, or fungus tribal? Honestly, I think you could find a balance, which could give the deck more angles of attack. The problem I am now running into is that there are so many MtG cards in existence, we have to cut cards that seem like "auto-includes" based on theme, but simply don't measure up to the game play.
This brings up another decision point: do you want this deck to win ever? Or are you just making a deck where you push the theme without regard?
I assume you are already planning to add Saproling Migration, Sporecrown Thallid, Thallid Soothsayer and Slimefoot once Dominaria is released.
9 months ago
Thank you very much! I am glad you like the list. It s a fun deck and can be powerful, but to be more competitive it needs some spells to counter the graveyard hate. Often you will encounter Bojuka Bog, Relic of Progenitus, Rest in Peace, Leyline of the Void, Scavenging Ooze, and Deathrite Shaman to name a few. Some cards to consider are:
Next up are cards you can swap in that are not as expensive to acquire.
To allow for the anti graveyard hate cards listed above, I would consider cutting for budgetary reasons: Yawgmoth's Will, Rise of the Dark Realms, Survival of the Fittest, Sylvan Scrying, Diabolic Servitude, Entomb, Coffin Queen.
You can change a lot of cards in the list aside from those mentioned here. Two cards I would not change and would pick up as they are very useful in the list are Volrath's Stronghold and Phyrexian Tower. You can sacrifice a creature to the tower gaining 2 black mana and use that mana to activate the stronghold to put the sacrificed creature back on top of your library. Volrath's Stronghold by itself is also a way to save at least one creature from your graveyard from getting exiled as mentioned in the graveyard hate you would face.
This should give a good sense of what type of cards to think about and try. I have used many of these cards on my way to getting to the list today. Another two good cards that are rarely bad are Wurmcoil Engine and Batterskull. Just good Value cards. Batterskull is not a creature to reanimate, but it is a creature when the artifact enters the battlefield. I hope this helps!
1 year ago
1 year ago
Hello, I'm the one that you commented on my Sidisi Deck and I'm here to check out your version of Sidisi. By your deck description, it sounds like we based our decks on the same philosophy of gaining an absurd amount of value through the graveyard. I'll go over some cards that I think you should take out and add. I'm brutally honest about deck building, since there are so many potential cards to add to a commander deck and it's difficult to take out cards, especially when your deck has already been established.
I'm guessing by your card selection that you are on some kind of budget since the deck is around $200 (which is pretty cheap for a commander deck) or by what your description says, you are making sure your deck isn't too OP, so I'll only suggest cards that aren't absurdly expensive like Crucible of Worlds.
Creatures: There is a kind of secret rule w/ Sidisi that you want to have at least 33 creatures in the deck, so on average, she mills at least one creature when she enters the battlefield or attacks, so I'll try to abide by that rule when giving my suggestions.
Dungeon Geists- just a generic control creature, it doesn't have any synergy w/ the deck aside from being a creature.
Kheru Lich Lord- I think Whip of Erebos is strictly better, it costs 2 less mana, gives all your creatures lifelink, and brings back a creature w/ haste for a turn (although it doesn't get flying & trample). Whip of Erebos has less synergy w/ the deck, since it's not a creature, but I think it's sheer power out ways the potential synergy.
Mold Shambler- Reclamation Sage is a strict upgrade to this card, costing half the mana and being able to be triggered if it hits the battlefield from the graveyard, although it doesn't hit lands, if you need it to hit lands, use Acidic Slime instead.
Omnibian- A funny card, but doesn't have any synergy w/ the deck aside from being a creature.
I personally avoid "enters the battlefield tapped" lands as much as possible (I'd rather play a basic lands over guildgates), but I'll just suggest interesting lands that are cheap price wise that you could add.
Barren Moor, Lonely Sandbar, & Tranquil Thicket- all have great synergy w/ Life from the Loam, you might think it's silly to take up three land slots for mediocre lands just for synergy w/ one card in the deck, however when you play the deck w/ these cycle lands and you can get the combo going (I usually am able to use it most games, because I mill so much of my deck) you'll see just how powerful a infinitely recurring value engine can be.
Bojuka Bog- It looks like you don't mill your opponents, so I don't think this card will be as useful to you as it is in my deck, however I usually play this card in every deck I have that runs , just so I have some way to interact w/ my opponents' graveyards.
Drownyard Temple- Being able to ramp at instant speed when you have an extra 3 mana laying around is really efficient, especially since the only cost of this card is that it only produces mana.
Exotic Orchard- This card is usually another Command Tower in deck running three or more colors of mana, it is especially true in since those colors are the most powerful and popular in commander. (It's also incredibly cheap price wise).
High Market- Protects your creatures from control magic and exile effects, seems like it's no big deal, but when every deck running has Path to Exile & Swords to Plowshares, it's usefulness begins to shine.
Sunken Hollow- Is an excellent 2-color budget land.
Alchemist's Refuge- I'm not a big fan of this card, I'd only think about running this in a heavy control deck, if you are really desperate for this ability you could use Leyline of Anticipation and/or Vedalken Orrery instead.
Mystic Genesis- I refuse to use counterspells that are more than 3 mana for a good reason, you can't just have 5 mana open without A. falling behind because you could of cast something to progress you board instead of keeping 5 mana up and B. making it super obvious to the other players that you have some sort of interaction, which they may play around. I thinking replacing it w/ either Arcane Denial or Counterspell will be a good choice.
Plague Boiler- Not a fan of obvious board wipes that your opponent's can play around (or could just remove w/ a Nature's Claim), I'd recommend Cyclonic Rift (which you should be automatically playing since you have in your deck) instead if your worried about nonland permanents, however if it's creatures that your worried about, I'd run a board wipe, like Toxic Deluge, Damnation, Life's Finale, Living Death, Decree of Pain, Black Sun's Zenith, or Crux of Fate.
Darksteel Plate- You should get rid of this card, this is a graveyard recursion deck, you don't care if your creatures die, it's one of the strongest assets of the deck.
Vraska the Unseen- She is a random planeswalker to have in this deck, personally I'm not a fan of planeswalkers in commander since the other three players will usually team up to kill planeswalkers that you have, the only good modes on her are her -3 (which if you want that just run Beast Within instead) and here ultimate, when judging planeswalkers, you can't judge them on their ultimates, they are so difficult to get to, so you almost have to assume they don't exist.
Important Cards you should add:
Eternal Witness- The best recursion on a creature in commander for .
Phyrexian Reclamation- One of the best recursion enchantments in commander.
Swiftfoot Boots & Lightning Greaves- This deck doesn't have , so haste is hard to come by, and these two cards both protect your creatures and gives them haste, a much appreciated ability in a creature heavy deck.
Panas on Chemo Ramp
1 year ago
Alright! I gave the deck a quick look and it looks relatively good overall. I understand you are not in a very competitive meta (or at least, not a very cutthroat one at that) and that budget is a concern albeit not a very crazy one.
I see enough card draw and cards that replace themselves. I also liked that you built the deck accordingly, avoiding enchantment and artifact inclusions to fit the theme of blowing all of them up.
With that said we reach the greatest flaw in the deck. Without any strong, early ramp and so many high costed cards doing what you want, your deck is left slow and clunky and will often durdle and fold to early advantage gained by other people through the same things you hate. Breaking a Sylvan Library on turn 5 means that opponent already has gained all the value in the world out of it and probably doesn't care too much that it's being destroyed.
A second point I want to make is that although you do have a lot of big mana plays, a LOT of them are inefficient considering the resource investment into them (mana cost Vs effect + P/T). Here's a list of which ones I didn't like too much and the reasoning behind it:
- Avatar of Might is a vanilla trampler in your deck. Unless you are facing against a fast aggro deck or token generator, you are the one playing the creature deck so I wouldn't expect to cast it on the cheap side often.
- Deus of Calamity is an awesome card but it needs the proper enablers (double strike/constant buffs) for it to work as intended and even then it's a "win more" card. In effect it does a hell of a lot under certain conditions, but those are hard to come by and when you are behind you'd prefer playing something else.
- Domesticated Hydra a very high investment just to get a trampler. Evasion is good but when you compare these kind of cards with enablers like Thunderfoot Baloth and Siege Behemoth they are very lackluster.
- Havenwood Wurm: 7 mana for a 5/6 trampler? You can do a lot better than this. The instant speed doesn't warrant this investment as it is essentially asking you to skip your turn to play this.
- Stonebrow, Krosan Hero would be a lot better in a shell where mass trample and Overrun effects ran rampant. This is not the case so quite often he will be giving you an extra 2-4 damage on swing. He's not that bad though.
- Blunt the Assault is a heavy costed fog effect. If life gaining is that important, running Shamanic Revelation is better. If the fog is really needed then just run Fog or Lull or Respite or Winds of Qal Sisma.
- Devil's Play is a very flavourful card and I do like it, but I think it's a bit small for commander. Fall of the Titans or even better Comet Storm do a much better job at finishing people.
- Scrabbling Claws is not good enough for graveyard hate. There exist much better alternatives (i.e. Relic of Progenitus)!
And here are my suggestions for you, including some notable omissions. Some have already been mentioned by others.
- Acidic Slime
- Mold Shambler
- Reclamation Sage!
- Sakura-Tribe Elder!
- Wood Elves!
- Farhaven Elf!
- Woodfall Primus!
- Chaos Warp!
- Krosan Grip!
- Ancient Grudge
- Comet Storm
- Hull Breach
- Skyshroud Claim!
- Hydra Broodmaster
- Beast Within!
- Xenagos, God of Revels
I would choose a number of these as replacements prefering their versatility, efficiency and power.
Those are my thoughts. :)
ps: since tappedout doesn't let me mark my most suggestions through the checkboxes for some reason, i'll put an exclamation mark next to them...