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Jace, Vryn's Prodigy
Legendary Creature — Human Wizard
: Draw a card, then discard a card. If there are five or more cards in your graveyard, exile Jace, Vryn's Prodigy, then return him to the battlefield transformed under his owner's control.
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Jace, Vryn's Prodigy Discussion
4 days ago
@ , it is a bit slow. When playing against stock Naya Burn Lists, first match is about 35/65. Post board it doesn't seem to fair too badly though. I have actually found Death's Shadow lists to be fairly favorable though as their targeted discard does not hit me as hard as it does other lists. Aggressive lists -need- to finish me by turn 4, as an Unburial Rites into a fattie by then is pretty reliable.
As far as Path to Exile, Abrupt Decay, and Fatal Push. I played this deck with Abrupt Decays and Path to Exiles before Fatal Push as printed. They always felt meh as they always seemed to get dredged and I had no real way of getting them back. They pretty much had to be in my opening hand or they would not do anything. If I was playing Esper, I would totally use Path to Exile, and Fatal Push, as I would then have access to Jace, Vryn's Prodigy Flip, and Snapcaster Mage... which I do have all the cards for. Never thought about switching to Esper.... Hmmmmmm.
1 week ago
Telepathy tends to eat counterspells, so that's maybe a good thing if there's a ton of Control in your meta. But in all other cases it didn't really do anything ... knowing an opponent had the spell didn't stop them from playing it. So instead of using the card slot and mana to know about it, I rather have had another protection spell to protect against it. Or for the times I REALLY wanted to know what in their hand, I'd rather have had a Surgical Extraction instead.
Hope this helps!
2 weeks ago
I believe this argument applies to many people: If you play your favorite deck a lot, you're probably much more proficient than your casual EDH opponent (or even competitive opponent with newish deck), as p0megranates pointed out. Furthermore, if you're very enthusiastic about your deck, your list is probably also much more optimized. These are enormous sources of bias. That's why arguing that you regularly crush all your opponents' tier 1/2 decks is completely insubstantial.
On a different note, cherry-picking specific cards or matchups that your deck beats is also pointless. Unless you want to examine every single card and matchup (no one has time for that), it's better to argue more broadly. Gaddock Teeg certainly isn't an obscure commander, and it could fall in tier 2.5 or 3. But it seems strictly worse than Selvala, Explorer Returned, Derevi, Empyrial Tactician, Jace, Vryn's Prodigy Flip, and Alesha, Who Smiles at Death (all tier 2) at stax.
Regardless, you might have an amazing Teeg deck to add to the list. Since there isn't one available, maybe you should nominate yours? The only way to (eventually) settle these biases would be thorough playtesting by competent pilots using only optimized lists.
2 weeks ago
Im loving the Street Wraith addition! An excellent 0 mana draw, thats probably something I will make find its way into my build as well!
A few questions though
Is there justification for the 4xGhost Quarter? I know tron is a pain, but does it cause a lack of consistency while putting your opponent ahead? Maybe Tectonic Edge is better(still questioning the colorless mana though)? Is Spreading Seas tron hate too?
Would the deck benefit from some fetch lands? Reason being 1)thins the deck and 2) resets the top if you are in a crunch and just need to blind hope it
How good is Confirm Suspicions in your testing? Is it worth the 5 mana to get the clues?
All in all though I like it. I need to sit down at some point and rework mine a little as Im also tinkering with Gifts Ungiven and Gideon of the Trials+Pact of Negation decks (any pact really) so all three are running though my mind
3 weeks ago
Traverse the Ulvenwald and Jace, Vryn's Prodigy Flip both have their merits and might fit on your deck. I would swap the Mana Leaks and Spell Snares for 3 Traverse the Ulvenwald, 2 Jace, Vryn's Prodigy Flip and another Thoughtseize to take a more aggresive playstyle, but that's just me.
3 weeks ago
Remember that you can use double brackets to link cards.
becomes Rise from the Grave and Voldaren Pariah Flip
[[Rise from the Grave]] and [[Voldaren Pariah]]
To answer your question, yes it would still be counted as a zombie. Besides the origin Planeswalker cards like Jace, Vryn's Prodigy Flip, transform creatures remain on the battlefield when they flip. They are still counted as the same object they were before they flipped.
When Rise from the Grave returns Voldaren Pariah Flip, it is now treated as a Zombie. When it flips into Abolisher of Bloodlines Flip, it is still counted as the same object, so it will still be treated as a Zombie in addition to its other types.
3 weeks ago
3 weeks ago
Hedron Crab is great. Jace, Vryn's Prodigy Flip is fun in mill decks assuming you have one. Also there is no reason not to run Rise of the Dark Realms, with your CMDR in play you could easily win the late game. It's the perfect finisher.