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Creature — Dinosaur
Enrage - Whenever Trapjaw Tyrant is dealt damage, exile target creature an opponent controls until Trapjaw Tyrant leaves the battlefield.
lhetrick13 on THe last march of the ents
3 months ago
zigail - Creature cheat is something excels in...casting big stompy creatures for less or for free is a solid plan so your concept is not bad. All wallisface and I are saying is that this deck is not optimized for this strategy specifically for for Modern play because Modern is just such a harsh and angry format.
Essentially your whole deck hinges on your opening hand...you MUST have at least 2-3 lands in your opening hand, hope you draw 1-2 more in the next few turns, and hope you either start with or draw Treefolk Harbinger, Bosk Banneret, and Leaf-Crowned Elder within the first few turns...which wallisface has pointed out even if all that works out, Leaf-Crowned Elder has no built in protection and you have no ability to provide any. So this crucial lynchpin and all the setup can be complete undone by a simple removal spell, likely staling your deck entirely.
I run a deck that is "similar" to this concept of building around a single creature (Beyond the Grave (Abzan)) as it is built around Haakon, Stromgald Scourge's ability to reanimate knight creatures. Excluding the lands, the other creatures, and 4x copies of Haakon, the rest of the cards are usually focused around finding Haakon and getting him into play as soon as possible. This is done via cards like Collected Company, Eldritch Evolution, Finale of Devastation, Pyre of Heroes, Aether Vial, etc...The point I am making is that the deck has so many ways to fetch Haakon or any knight I may need really. Adding additional ways to "force" your strategy will help your deck be much more consistent. As it is right now, the ideal combo you mentioned in your comment will be pretty rare and most times, this deck will struggle to find a board presence.
Other than adding cards to help fetch Leaf-Crowned Elder more consistently, I think adding some ramp to help cast those big treefolk earlier or adding in additional ways to accelerate the deck by lowering the mana cost of those treefolk would go a long ways. An example of accelerating a deck built around big stompy creatures with mild ramp or lowering creature cost that I can provide is my dino themed deck Spared No Expense!!!. 8 cards lower the cost of dinosaurs and then I have 7 others that provide me some ramp making it so I can cast things like Regisaur Alpha or Trapjaw Tyrant on turn 3. This makes it so that despite having a >3.5 CMC, the deck is very consistent and fast. I know you mentioned you want to hit more on the creature cheat ability of Leaf-Crowned Elder but just food for thought on ways I feel the deck could potentially be improved.
Good luck and happy brewing, hope some of the material I mentioned was helpful!
Jett2112 on Dino Town
4 months ago
Not much of a comment but here's some stuff to consider based on edhrec and my dragons deck. Once we playtest this a bit I'll have more for ya. Ancient Tomb Atzocan Seer Boseiju, Who Endures Chaos Warp Commune with Dinosaurs Congregation at Dawn Finale of Devastation Goring Ceratops Kodama's Reach Marauding Raptor Pyrohemia Ranging Raptors Return of the Wildspeaker Rhythm of the Wild Shadow in the Warp Temple of the False God The World Tree Trapjaw Tyrant Yavimaya, Cradle of Growth Elvish Mystic Fyndhorn Elves Llanowar Elves Realmwalker Selvala, Heart of the Wilds Shaman of Forgotten Ways Avacyn's Pilgrim
lhetrick13 on Spared No Expense!!!
8 months ago
DreadKhan - Ya, both of those two can be knockout punches with the right support around them but running 3xTrapjaw Tyrant feels excessive at times and same with 4xForerunner of the Empire. I will need to play around with that and see if I like Utopia Sprawl and if so, how many copies I feel like the deck needs...I am imagining like a turn 1 Utopia Sprawl, turn 2 Kinjalli's Caller and Marauding Raptor, followed by a Turn 3 enraged dino that has up to a CMC of 5...that is not shabby...
I have done alot of swapping things around over the last couple weeks for testing and you are right, I likely need to balance my lands again based on the cards I currently have or will add to it. With the shock, filter, fetch lands as well as Ranging Raptors I usually do not have issues getting the mana I need to cast what ever but there are times where I have a killer opening hand but I have the wrong color mana to cast everything within the first 3 turns :(
lhetrick13 on Spared No Expense!!!
8 months ago
DreadKhan - Utopia Sprawl has been on my wish list for a while but I feel like you are right this may be a good fit for it considering the abundance of high CMC dinos in the deck. If i can procure some in the new future I will need to test that out. Any thoughts on what you would cut to make room for 3-4? My first thought was 1xForerunner of the Empire and 1xTrapjaw Tyrant but after that things start getting tight!
I looked at Pyrohemia but Forerunner of the Empire provides a very similar mass enrage trigger ability when creatures enter the field so I decided to go that route.
Metallic Mimic and some of the other shapeshifters you mentioned have some merit...The +1/+1 counter ability is not exactly needed with how big most dinos are for their cost but it would give a cheaper option. Realmwalker wmight be a good addition to give me a "larger hand" as you mentioned and Masked Vandal would give me a decent artifact/enchantment removal option seeing how that is something dinos struggle with.
Good stuff and some ideas to try out! Thanks for your thoughts!
lhetrick13 on Prehistoric Rumble!
10 months ago
Radiant_Draconis - Good stuff! Maybe I will see if I can add one more Marauding Raptor in then. Between him and Forerunner of the Empire those are excellent cards to get enrage going and it is great to drop in like Trapjaw Tyrant and clear two creatures from the board. Now if only there was a dinosaur that gave other dinosaurs hexproof or some useful skill! They are so big and costly and in modern, removal spells are so prevalent it is so sad to see a 9 CMC dino get taken out by a 3 CMC instant.
Kinda makes sense you like Heaven / Earth for some personal flair. I mean, you are running a big meteor in a dino deck. Ironic and appropriate! Just wanted to make sure you did know there are options :)
You are preaching to the choir my friend about that high CMC! I have found I gravitate towards heavily aggressive decks by nature but they are not the most fun for my friends to play against. I think this my dino deck I am putting together will be a better mixture of keeping things competitive for them and fun for me. Our decks are pretty different but thanks for the ideas and inspiration to actually put one together!
discipleofgary73 on Mono-White Keyword Banding
1 year ago
Banding is always funny.
For ramp, one of my favorite monowhite cards is Oath of Lieges. Sure, it can help opponents, but group hugs are what banding is all about, right??? There are some of the classic artifacts people have mentioned, but I want to put Burnished Hart, Sword of the Animist, Wayfarer's Bauble, Monologue Tax and Terrain Generator on your radar. Oh, and Expedition Map to grab the Cathedral. Generally, I think 7-9 pieces of dedicated ramp in an EDH deck is about right, depending on the speed, colors, and avg cmc.
Outside of ramp, War Elephant would be good just to have a trample ability out on a creature. Nemesis Mask can make sure Abu Ja'far can really do some damage. You could also try out the totem armor enchantments to make it easier to reuse Abu in this way. Trapjaw Tyrant would also be funny in a band. Other than that, the only things that come to mind are Felidar Retreat, Kismet, Mass Calcify/Tragic Arrogance, and Blinding Light .
AmbientCrepes on Big Stompy Boys
2 years ago
Here are some great cards to add if you decide to upgrade the creatures.
WUBRG97 on Ixalan Park
3 years ago
Awesome list, i have taken some notes for when i start retooling my own gishath deck.
But there are some inclusions I myself have experienced to be underwhelming and was wondering what you thought about them.
Bellowing Aegisaur: Does he work as occasional +1/+1 counter placements or do you have multiple activations when you use him. I myself find the occasional trigger to be underwhelming, and not doing much for 6 mana. And when i can use something like Pyrohemia he does not protect himself.
Burning Sun's Avatar: Have been very disappointed with this one, tough to cast due to its cmc and triple red. Bolting a creature and a player seems very limited for 6 mana, and even when its cheated into play it seems underwhelming for a card slot when something like Apex Altisaur could remove multiple threats. And a 6/6 without trample is underwhelming as well in my opinion :/.
Deathgorge Scavenger: How often do you meet graveyard decks, because without that interaction it seems very limited in its use.
Raging Regisaur: I have been on the fence with this, it is a very nice trigger on a dinosaur body. But the amount of enrage targets are limited and - at least in my meta, a 4/4 will rarely be able to attack anyone without dying to one of their larger blockers. Killing an X/1 is nice, but the difficulty of having it attack without dying is a bit tough.
Raging Swordtooth: Same case as above, but i like this less. It triggers only once, which means it needs a lot of setup for getting a lot of enrage triggers. An army of 1/1 seems uncommon, most token decks will have something to buff them. A possible swap could be Staff of Nin it gives card draw and a nice way to trigger enrage, although at a higher cmc and no way of cheating it into play.
Siegehorn Ceratops: How has this performed for you? I find it very hard to trigger it the first time with only 1 damage. And even if it gets buffed it is just a big beater without trample. I really like the card and want to include it, but its hard to justify.
Territorial Allosaurus: Is a 5/5 for 4 with a possible fight ability really worth it, feels there are better options available.
Trapjaw Tyrant: Have shown to be very risky. Some setup is required to trigger the enrage, and even if the problems are removed, they will come right back when the board is cleared. And then one have to take care of those problems again with an empty board.
And what do you think about some of these cards?
Domri, Anarch of Bolas: Can be removal, ramp and buff.
Samut, the Tested Can give gishath double strike and enable enrage.
Aura Shards Can wipe most creatures from opponents boards when casting dinosaurs, and commander can be a board wipe when casting.
Shaman en-Kor for moving enrage triggers
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