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Three Dreams Discussion
1 day ago
I have seen it said before, but I want to question your win-condition as a deck under the "Competitive Hub".
Bruna, Light of Alabaster is a very good "pub-stomp" commander. I am sure you can understand why, it is really good at pumping out damage once you deck has the ramp and enchantments to pull it off. Good card draw or tutoring allows you to pump it up with 2-3 enchantents that get it to one-shot opponents. That wins in three turns!
I think I should break that down just a bit. You need 2-3 cards additional to the commander, and for the sake of arguement, I will say 2. Battle Mastery + Corrupted Conscience for example, given you only have a few other 2 card "combos" with you commander, this one is the cheapest. All together it would cost mana, but your commander really makes that mana and a combat step uninterrupted. Honestly, winning with 2 cards additional to the commander that costs 6 mana outside of green isn't great, but given you can tutor them up well, which you can to some extent as the cards you need are aura enchantments and you are in white.
Truely, this is wrong though. Intuition and Three Dreams are one-card combos with your commander, sadly your commander can't cheat their costs, so if we take Intuition with Bruna, Light of Alabaster, it costs 9 mana, and it one-shots a player per turn.
Per turn is the issue though. A 3 turn win (killing one opponents a turn) leads to 6 turns your opponents have to answer an unprotected body (no hexproof nor any indestructible type effects). 6 turns is forever in cEDH, and since you run so much of your deck as useless enchantments (outside of combat win), it is simply not likely you can counter everything your opponents through at you.
This is why I question your win-condition.
The thing is, a control deck isn't just trying to win. It needs an absurd amount of card draw and cheap answers to stop every attempt at dropping a stax lock or combo finisher. Every Dark Confidant, Trinisphere, and Food Chain needs a Swords to Plowshares, Chain of Vapor, and Swan Song respectively. You don't have the luxury of running just 20 answers for the 20 threats in each opponents deck, you need 60 answers for the 20 threats in each of 3 of your opponents deck. 60 cards that are simply answers won't do the trick either, you are drawing one card a turn, your opponents (collectively) draw 3 a turn. EDH is a game that every player is at a statistical disadvantage.
So run multple answers in each card Grasp of Fate all the Dark Confidant, Trinisphere, and Food Chain all at once. Windfall a new hand of answers, Timetwister back your answers, and draw a new hand. Brainstorm, Ponder, Preordain, Opt, Impulse, Serum Visions and cantrip your way to the right answers for the situation at hand.
You actually have what I would normally say is the next point, prematurely answering threats. Armageddon can wipe a hand out of the game, if your opponents can's cast the cards in their hands, they might as well not have it. Cataclysm is similar, for obvious reasons, and so is Ravages of War, a card I would greatly recommend.
To get more value out of these effects, you need another tutor like Personal Tutor is a great way to find a land-swipe effect, I also suggest better card draw like Timetwister, Time Spiral, Manifold Insights, Treasure Cruise, Dig Through Time, etc.
Cheap answers like Chain of Vapor, Fragmentize, Mental Misstep, Delay, Mindbreak Trap, Rapid Hybridization, Pongify, Into the Roil, Blink of an Eye, Grafdigger's Cage, and other such answers are the best thing to have a ton of. They are blowouts early-game, useful tempo boosts mid-game, and still relevent late game. Being able to have a card for every threat means spending more cards on ramping is unrealistic at best, but running a deck very low to the ground is incredibly useful, pretty much every cEDH control deck is either stax-hybrid control, or straight 1-2 mana answers, some sweepers, and 1-3 mana card draw.
To end all of this, I would recommend greatly changing this deck, or dropping the "Competitive" tag, it is misleading as-is.
I also want you to know, QKNARWHAL, that I mean no disrespect to you or your deck-building capabilities, I do not think that this deck is a bad deck, simply not competitive. A previous user, Podkomorka had showed similar thoughts to mine, yet did not explain them. Podkomorka also was not mentioned or responded to in further posts, which I hope will not be done to myself.
Thanks for reading! - SynergyBuild (I'll toss you an upvote on the way out)
1 week ago
ok first Three Dreams can fetch me Mourning, Conviction, and Underworld Connections. now hold your horses, why would I want that you ask? well, they allow me to return them to my hand so I can play them again for experience (i would not fetch mourning and conviction. and you're definitely correct there are a lot of cards that are just there because they're enchantments but it kind of hard to get more than that when you have a $20 budget. Skybind triggers with daxos ability so I can remove several attackers by making creatures. Myth Realized might appear bad but I'm running 14 creatures and that numbers only going down. However you are totally right about a handful of those creatures being just there, I will try to work on that, thanks for the advice
1 week ago
Adding one more that I missed, Three Dreams doesn't grab you much other than curses which probably aren't to important to have.
2 weeks ago
SynergyBuild, since there is a lot of hype built around Nicol Bolas, the Ravager Flip and Arcades, the Strategist. I wanted to build an elder dragon myself. So the choice I made was Chromium, the Mutable. Yes, Zur the Enchanter, would definitely be the more competitive option in Esper, indeed. But this is for the sake of elder dragon fun.
Karmic Justice, Winds of Rath and Hanna, Ship's Navigator, could potentially earn a spot in the roster. I’m still working out the kinks with the build and I can’t get any true statistics, until I get some games in with my playgroup.
Unfortunately, through making some tough cuts, such cards as, Open the Armory, Heliod's Pilgrim and Three Dreams, did not make it in with the rest of the Tutor spells. I was finding myself tutoring for other things than auras.
As always, thanks for your feedback and suggestions.
1 month ago
So I have a Uril deck that I have been working on for a while so I am going to make some suggestions to take out, the reason why, and then will give some cards I feel you should use if you can get ahold of them. So some general suggestions is to avoid fieldwipes that also hurt you a lot, secondly run very few creatures. Honestly mana dorks and the enchantress' are all that I really run so the major suggestion I would say is to cut down on the creatures and mostly leave dorks/enchantress' like Mesa Enchantress or things like Herald of the Pantheon which make auras cheaper. Another thing are instants and sorceries, the majority of those should be targeted removal and mass removal or land grab spells like Swords to Plowshares, Day of Judgment, or Rampant Growth. Some specifics on those are Titanic Ultimatum isn't awesome if you only have one creature, which is all you generally need to win. (Uril, the Miststalker) Including the other pump spells i would say aren't great with Uril because he pumps so much anyways. Predator's Rapport isn't a terrible one as it can get you some life if you need but their might be a better option if you really want to keep that in. Alright, on to the enchantments. I would say that out of auras, Ancestral Mask and Bear Umbra are your best two, the others I like are Dryad's Favor and Indestructibility and finally Rancor. Other than those three I would say most of your aura's are just a tad weak. Out of normal enchantments I would almost avoid these with a fiery passion, other than protection of course. I would say Oblivion Ring is the only one I for sure would say to keep in (yes I know it's an aura but you don't target uril with it.). Other than those I would say that you mostly want auras, other than removal or extremely powerful cards. Alright, on to suggestions: The major suggestions I would make for auras would be these Armadillo Cloak, Ethereal Armor, Flickerform, Runes of the Deus, Scourge of the Nobilis, Shield of the Oversoul, Spectra Ward, Spirit Mantle, Unquestioned Authority, and finally Vow of Wildness along with any of the umbras. (boar, spider, and hyena for example.) Some normal enchantments I like are: Burgeoning for ramp, Dueling Grounds and Ghostly Prison for protection. Also, Mayael's Aria and Sigil of the Empty Throne for alternate win cons and finally Sterling Grove for search and protection. The artifacts should be general ramp or mana fixing with maybe a Helm of the Gods for boosting. The wipes I use are Austere Command for when you really run into crap and Winds of Rath and Divine Reckoning because they don't normally hit uril so he doesn't die. I use Retether and Open the Vaults for recursion and Enlightened Tutor and Three Dreams for tutor and my two targeted removal is just Swords to Plowshares and Path to Exile. Those are just my general suggestions. If you want to look at my deck you can go to Uril the miststalker
2 months ago
facepalm I supposed I should have expected my snark to bring Karmic Justice right back to me, eh? haha Give enough snark, you'll eventually get it back! XD Touche!
Running Auras with Sram and Spiritdancer would definitely help since you'd be able to trigger Mesa Enchantress as well since all Auras are Enchantments; and it looks like you've found most of the powerhouse Auras.
If you're looking for more lockdown Auras, I've always liked Prison Term, Suppression Bonds and Faith's Fetters since they take them out of combat AND turn off their activated abilities (plus the latter two can hit things other than creatures).
Sigarda's Aid can help your Auras gain Flash. While Authority of the Consuls gains you life and slows down opponent's using creatures (especially hasty ones). Path of Bravery can also be an Anthem effect and gains you life.
3 months ago
3 months ago
Thanks for the suggestions! I had totally forgotten Three Dreams existed. Definitely putting that on. I like the Blazing Torch, too. She used to run a Jor Kadeen equipment deck, so I'm mostly staying away from things she used to use (like the swords), but I really like the suggestions. So far, it doesn't decently in our meta, but ... definitely could use more work!