|Commander / EDH||Legal|
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|Duel Decks: Elspeth vs. Kiora||Uncommon|
|Born of the Gods||Uncommon|
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Creature — Merfolk
: Untap another target permanent.
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Kiora's Follower Discussion
2 days ago
Since you're running Simic I would suggest switching Arbor Elf to Kiora's Follower as it untaps any permanent, not just forests.
4 days ago
That is why it is not as good. When you are able to generate a lot of mana, you want to be playing threats. Ramping into more ramp just feels bad. Overgrowth is better because it comes down a turn earlier and the mana fixing normally does not matter very much. If you think you are going to be short on red sources to cast your dragons, just throw all your enchamtments on the land you do have that can produce red. Then when you untap the land, viola. You have an additional red mana.
It is kind of the same reason that Arbor Elf is actually better than Kiora's Follower and Voyaging Satyr in non-budget lists. Arbor Elf can untap Breeding Pool and Stomping Ground -- giving you access to all the color fixing you could need -- as well as tons of forests to use him with. Sames goes for Utopia Sprawl as compared to Trace of Abundance.
The thing that costs less mana that has a restriction on it is usually better if the restriction is not that big of a deal. In regards to Arbor Elf and Utopia Sprawl -- the restrictions hardly noticable if you have the $$$$$ for the shocklands and fetchlands to always ensure you have a forest. Likewise, Overgrowth is better than Market Festival because by the time you cast it, you should have access to all the colors you need. Additional mana of the color you need can be created by untapping lands with your various "untappers."
Essentially it boils down to why pay more for essentially the same effect? Why wait an additional turn so I can play this card with a marginally better effect, when I can play a card right now that in the long run will do the same thing?
4 days ago
Voyaging Satyr and Kiora's Follower dont care what type of land it is. That is why I have 4 of each of those and only 1 Arbor Elf. I was only using Arbor Elf as an example. Kiora's Follower and Voyaging Satyr do the same thing.
4 days ago
I think it looks a little better. But let me explain why cards like Arbor Elf are better than Rattleclaw Mystic. At face value, they are more or less the same. Arbor Elf generates 1 mana by untapping a land you already tapped for mana. Rattleclaw Mystic taps to provide a mana. The missing piece that makes Arbor Elf better is that he can untap lands that are enchanted by Utopia Sprawl, Overgrowth, Trace of Abundance, and Fertile Ground. So if you have a forest enchanted by Trace of Abundance, you tap it for 2 mana, then untap it with Arbor Elf, then tap it again for another 2 mana. So instead of just generating 1 extra mana with Rattleclaw Mystic, you can generate an extra 3 mana. And it only grows more and more out of control with each enchantment on the land. With just an Overgrowth, and Trace of Abundance on a forest with an Arbor Elf/Kiora's Follower/Voyaging Satyr, you can generate 8 mana off of one land per turn. Having these enchantments function similar to having a Rattleclaw Mystic in play -- but they combo and expound on themselves much better than the mystic could ever dream of.
5 days ago
6 days ago
Since you are playing a midrange reanimator combo style SBT I would suggest Kiora's Follower and Birthing Pod. Pod puts things in your graveyard, which is good while grabbing another good card and putting it into play. Follower is just a good value creature that also gets even more value of out of pod and it does fun things with bloom tender, which should get you to T&N much faster. In my experience, it is very easy to set up the deadeye navigator and mike and trike combos with pod. Also getting access to undead sidisi and peregrine drake by podding SBT is very good. You could also add Body Double or Phyrexian Delver for a toolbox effect.
Why no Jin-Gitaxis, Core Augur?
I think you have more than enough win conditions so the extra aggro options feel like overkill. Trickbind may be a meta call, but Swan Song is usually better imo. Nyx weaver is much weaker than baby jace imo.
1 week ago
well, typical ramp decks utilize things like Utopia Sprawl, and Overgrowth, in conjuction with creatures that can untap lands -- such as Arbor Elf, Voyaging Satyr, and Kiora's Follower to then untap those enchanted lands to generate tons of mana. Garruk Wildspeaker can do the same. As far as what you ramp into -- Genesis Wave is super good. It might be a little bit more than you want to spend though. It is cheaper than Tooth and Nail though -- and arguably better. As far as creatures to use, I would say your best bets are Broodmate Dragon, Hellkite Overlord, Balefire Dragon, Utvara Hellkite, Dragonlord Atarka, and Atarka, World Render. Do not use all of these, but a total of 4-6 of them is likely good. Any more than that and it can clog up your hand really bad.
As far as colors go, how attached are you to Jund? I think Temur might be better for a dragon ramp deck -- Temur Ascendancy can get pretty nuts -- giving your dragons haste and giving you draws (which I know you love :P)