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Vivid Crag enters the battlefield tapped with two charge counters on it.
: Gain .
, Remove a charge counter from Vivid Crag: Gain one mana of any colour.
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Vivid Crag Discussion
Jaecen on Animar Sec
2 days ago
I've categorized the cards in your deck here: https://deckstats.net/decks/50753/1215572-animar
The following analysis is based on that categorization. Several cards are in more than one category, so I've categorized them based on their primary or common case. E.g. Ancient Animus is both "Removal" and "+1/+1 Counter Interaction", but you're going to cast it to kill something -- the +1/+1 counter is a nice bonus.
There's no explicit or stated goals of the deck, so I can't evaluate the cards against that. If you have a goal, let me know.
The core effect of Animar is to play creatures, which grows Animar. As Animar grows, he helps you play more (and more expensive) creatures. Some notable limitations:
- Animar only decreases colorless costs
- Animar only cares about creatures
- Animar only cares about casting creatures
Animar is cheap to cast and protects himself from most removal (due to his protection from Black and White). Because of this, we can assume that we will get him out early and keep him out long enough for him to provide benefit. We'll build the deck assuming Animar is on the battlefield at all times.
Since Animar reduces the colorless component of creature costs, we'll get the biggest benefit from colorless creatures. As with any unlimited cost reduction effect, we should look for ways to break the free case. The obvious one here is to bounce and recast colorless creatures for free.
Since we're playing all of these (hopefully free) creatures, Animar will grow quickly. Giving Animar good evasion will give us to win on commander damage quickly.
To best abuse Animar, we want:
- Many creatures across a range of mid to high colorless costs
- As many of those creatures in our hand as possible
- An many +1/+1 counters on Animar as soon as possible
- A means to make Animar unblockable
The easiest way to break Animar is to create an engine that casts colorless creatures and bounces them to your hand as many times as possible during a turn. We'll want ETB/LTB effects on those creatures and cards that care about creatures entering and leaving the battlefield. Additionally, we'll want cards that care about +1/+1 counters on a creature.
Favor creatures over non-creatures, as you get a discount on creatures. Try to keep colored costs to a minimum - avoid double or more colors in a cost.
Abusable Colorless Creatures:
- Myr Battlesphere creates four Myr tokens
- Precursor Golem creates two 3/3 tokens
- Artisan of Kozilek reanimates a creature
- Duplicant exiles a creature
- Anodet Lurker and Peace Strider gain three life
- Electrostatic Pummeler and Multiform Wonder give three engergy
- Reservoir Walker gains three life and gives three enery
- Grim Poppet gives three -1/-1 counters to put on something
- Meteor Golem destroys something
- Mirror Golem exiles a card from a graveyard
- Pierce Strider drains three life from an opponent
- Skyscanner draws a card
- Mindless Automaton draws a card via a +1/+1 counter interaction
- Solemn Simulacrum tutors a basic land into play
- Thought-Knot Seer can effectively mill and oppenent with ETB and LTB triggers
- Triskelion deals damage via a +1/+1 counter interaction
- Workhorse grants colorless mana via a +1/+1 counter interaction
- Oblivion Sower steals lands from your opponents deck
- Panharmonicon !!!
- Cream of the Crop
- Decoction Module
- Impact Tremors
- Leyline of Vitality
- Hardened Scales
- Simic Ascendancy
- Path of Discovery
- Warstorm Surge
- Wild Pair
- Herald of Secret Streams
- Thassa, God of the Sea
- Whispersilk Cloak
- Protective Bubble
- Aqueous Form
- Keeper of Keys
- Key to the City
- Passwall Adept
- Rogue's Passage
- Aether Tunnel
- Cloak of Mists
- Suspicious Bookcase
- Marchesa's Smuggler
- Tricks of the Trade
We'll want to get as many creatures down as quickly as we can. Card draw and other card advantage effects are valuable.
- Vizier of the Menagerie
- Sunbird's Invocation
- Stolen Strategy
- Rashmi, Eternities Crafter
- Garruk's Horde
- Descendants' Path
- Elvish Visionary
- Fierce Empath
- Wall of Blossoms
Changes to the Existing Cards
I would consider cutting way down on the amount of ramp. Mana dorks get the deck running early, but they don't have any synergy with the core effects. I suspect that's what was leaving you feeling like you had a dead hand.
Cards that seem particularly problematic:
- Wild Cantor . Requires a sac for effect. Doesn't get cost reduction. A dork that taps for mana would be better.
- Tinder Wall . Same as Wild Cantor sans the cost reduction bit.
- Vivid Creek and Vivid Crag . These both ETB tapped, don't have basic land types, and only provide off-color mana twice. If would strongly consider running Amonkhet cycling duals over these.
- Ancient Ziggurat . Be careful, as this mana can only be used for casting creature spells. I don't like this land in most decks.
- Bond Beetle . I have no idea why this is in here. It works once and has very little synergy with the deck. Verdurous Gearhulk would be better, but still not great.
- Green Sun's Zenith . I think a cheaper card that tutored to hand and then let you cast the card would be better, as you'd get the cost reduction effect and other synergies. No cards come to mind, but there are lots that look at the top X cards and tutor to hand ( Gift of the Gargantuan , etc.).
4 days ago
Please link all cards in your question using double square brackets.
Reflecting Pool checks the effects of all mana-producing abilities of lands you control, but it doesn’t check their costs. For example, Vivid Crag says “, Remove a charge counter from Vivid Crag : Add one mana of any color.” If you control Vivid Crag and Reflecting Pool , you can tap Reflecting Pool for any color of mana. It doesn’t matter whether Vivid Crag has a charge counter on it, and it doesn’t matter whether it’s untapped.
I think this answers most of your questions since the other lands being tapped doesn't matter to what mana Reflecting Pool could make, and being able to pay other costs (such as on Sunken Ruins or on Shadowblood Ridge ) also doesn't matter.
3 weeks ago
OK so the deck glitched out and it didn't work out the way I wanted it to so I will just put in a comment of what I would do/suggestions. 1. You have too many lands. 30-35 lands is what you would look for in a deck. So I would cut down to 35 lands and use those 5 that you cut out to get ramp. I would put in Sol Ring , Kodama's Reach , Zendikar Resurgent , Commander's Sphere , and Urza's Incubator . 2. I would also get rid of the things that are giving you non-dragon creatures. So I would take out Goblinslide , Devils' Playground , Dragon Fodder , Dance with Devils . This is so that you can use cards like Vanquisher's Banner and Door of Destinies so that you can pump up your dragons and do more damage! 3. You have some creatures that are there just to be there. I would replace all non-dragon creatures other than Dragonmaster Outcast . Dragons that you can use to replace are; Lathliss, Dragon Queen , Savage Ventmaw , Utvara Hellkite , Scourge of Valkas , Hellkite Tyrant , Moonveil Dragon , and Thundermaw Hellkite . 4. Although your dragons can remove creatures you need to be able to deal with enchantment, artifacts, and you also have to protect your dragons as well! So I would remove Draconic Roar , Echoing Courage , Sarkhan's Rage , Savage Alliance , Stonefury , Bathe in Dragonfire , Devour in Flames , Make Mischief , Reduce to Ashes , Sarkhan's Dragonfire , Atarka Monument , Staff of the Flame Magus , Outpost Siege , and Retreat to Kazandu . You already have dragons doing damage when they Enter The Battlefield so I would take out instants or sorceries that are doing that. Plus I recommended taking out some of the ramp that you already had because there is better ramp. For removal I would suggest Beast Within , Naturalize , Decimate , Hull Breach , and Vandalblast . Now to protect your creatures I would add Heroic Intervention and Asceticism . 5. Last but CERTAINLY not least, MANA! Ok so I know I mentioned going down to 35 but even if you just take away 5 basic lands there are non-basics that I would take out that might fix you down to 35 and then I will give some recommended lands that might help. I would take out Crumbling Vestige , Gruul Turf , Looming Spires , Pinecrest Ridge , Quicksand , and Vivid Crag . I would put in Command Tower , Cinder Glade , Rootbound Crag , Mosswort Bridge , Spinerock Knoll , and Spire Garden . Ok so I know that is a LOT to take in but please take note that I am in no way a professional helper. This is all in my opinion and don't let me influence your playstyle. I am happy to answer questions if I can and I am here to help!
3 weeks ago
What strategy are you trying to make work with this deck? How are you envisioning this deck winning? Is it creature beats? Combo?
As for the mana base, 4 color can be rough on a budget but Spire of Industry isn't too much $$ and should give some flexibility while having a mode that doesn't ding for life. Maybe the Vivid land cycle Vivid Marsh , Vivid Crag , etc, could help as well.
4 weeks ago
You might consider some cheap replacements: Vivid Creek , Vivid Marsh , Vivid Crag and Vivid Grove instead of Dismal Backwater , Jungle Hollow , Rugged Highlands and Swiftwater Cliffs for extra mana-fixing (which is needed in a 4-color deck). Also: Llanowar Wastes , Yavimaya Coast and Shivan Reef are cheap untapped lands. // You might consider Farseek , Sakura-Tribe Elder , Explosive Vegetation and Circuitous Route for further ramp. Farseek can grab Sunken Hollow , Smoldering Marsh or Cinder Glade , while Circuitous Route can search for Simic Guildgate , Izzet Guildgate and Golgari Guildgate . // You might run Fact or Fiction , Steam Augury and Ancient Excavation for early card draw and graveyard filler for delve cards, like Murderous Cut , Dig Through Time and Tasigur, the Golden Fang (they all got reprinted). Brainstorm and Painful Truths are also great draw spells. // Izzet Charm , Crosis's Charm and Sultai Charm are really versatile removing threats. They could replace Scour from Existence . // Zendikar Resurgent is a mana-doubler, which can fuel big Comet Storm , Blue Sun's Zenith , Pull from Tomorrow , Exsanguinate and Curse of the Swine . // Since you are playing expensive spells, Deep-Sea Kraken , Combustible Gearhulk , Avatar of Fury , Avatar of Woe , Primeval Protector , Sunbird's Invocation , Metallurgic Summonings are great ways to deal a lot of damage.
1 month ago
Your deck has some requirements, so you should only run nonbasic lands and mana rocks that can add somehow. Some cheap suggestions are: Reliquary Tower , Unclaimed Territory (I see you have a lot of wizards), Exotic Orchard (usually tap for all your colors), Darkwater Catacombs , Sunken Hollow , Shivan Reef , Underground River , Fetid Pools , Temple of Epiphany , Temple of Deceit instead of Crypt of the Eternals , Rupture Spire , Vivid Crag , Vivid Marsh , Temple of the False God and some basic lands. // Unstable Obelisk is really expensive for what it does - Reality Shift do the job cheaply. Archaeomancer is great for recursion.
1 month ago
You run both. You want both Paradox Engine + Intruder Alarm as well as Gemhide Sliver + Manaweft Sliver + Cryptolith Rite. This lets you get your combo out as consistently as possible, plus all of these individually massively help your game plan even if you aren't comboing out with them.
I also play 5c Slivers with Overlord as the Commander.
Here are some cards I'd suggest with that experience in mind:
Descendants' Path is a great draw engine. Mirari's Wake buffs your slivers and doubles your mana. Phyrexian Reclamation lets you pull Slivers from your yard. Shared Animosity is one of the best one sided buffs you can give your Slivers. Steely Resolve for an additional way to give them all hexproof. Spirit of Resistance combos with Sliver Hivelord making it so you cannot lose the game. Konda's Banner gives +2/+2 to all slivers when attached to a 5c sliver. Vanquisher's Banner is a draw engine and buffs your slivers. Distant Melody draws a ton, Domri Rade serves many roles and is very cheap to play, Cyclonic Rift belongs in any EDH list with blue in it. Shaman of Forgotten Ways is a good ramper, helps to hit 5 colors and has a win-con attached to it. I also run a Birds of Paradise for color fixing.
This deck doesn't look to be a budget deck, except in your lands. That's okay, that's exactly how my deck is as well. Here are some good cards to make fixing 5 colors easier:
The cheaper 5c lands: Ancient Ziggurat, Cascading Cataracts, City of Brass, Command Tower, Evolving Wilds/Terramorphic Expanse + (only) 1 of each basic, Exotic Orchard, Grand Coliseum, Mirrodin's Core, Path of Ancestry, Rupture Spire, Sliver Hive, Transguild Promenade, Gateway Plaza, Unclaimed Territory, Unknown Shores.
Running a combination of all of these means you only need 1 of each basic, and you'll have no problem hitting 5 colors asap. There are better ways to build the mana pool for 5c Slivers, but it costs thousands of dollars worth of lands.
Anyways, love what you've got going on so far. Hope your table hates playing against this deck as much as my table hates playing against mine, haha.
1 month ago
Since you're in 5-colors, it might be wise to run Exotic Orchard (often you get 4 or 5 colors on this land), Cascading Cataracts (for General Tazri's ability) and Battlefield Forge. // Also, Arcane Sanctum, Crumbling Necropolis, Savage Lands, Seaside Citadel and Murmuring Bosk (fetchable Forest) should replace the non-gate taplands: Bloodfell Caves, Dismal Backwater, Swiftwater Cliffs, Tranquil Cove and Wind-Scarred Crag. // You don't need to dedicate 10 guildgates to Circuitous Route, you just need 5 or 6 to have wide variety of options to fetch. Since this deck is heavy on green and white, you can take out the guildgates that don't generate green or white (Dimir Guildgate, Rakdos Guildgate, Izzet Guildgate) for Vivid Meadow, Vivid Grove and Vivid Crag, because these can give you all 5 colors. // It is better not to run spells that cost double mana of a splash color, like Diabolic Tutor (it might be hard to cast it when you want it).
Vivid Crag occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.05%
U/R (Izzet): 0.12%
U/B/R (Grixis): 0.15%
RBW (Mardu): 0.09%
RUW (Jeskai, America): 0.24%