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Word of Seizing
Split second (As long as this spell is on the stack, players can't play spells or activated abilities that aren't mana abilities.)
Untap target permanent and gain control of it until end of turn. It gains haste until end of turn.
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Word of Seizing Discussion
1 month ago
When Neheb was spoiled a buddy of mine and I lost it because back in the day he ran Minotaur's and loved them. I like this deck a lot and it would definitely "rustle some jimmies" as my friend and I would say. As for some suggestion I have: Koth of the Hammer, Word of Seizing, and maybe Caged Sun. Awesome deck deff have my up-vote!
1 month ago
In my build I have had solid gameplay with Atarka, World Render, and Bloodsoaked Champion. I built my Prossh with a ton of removal. Much of my removal is actually based on Threaten mechanics with sac outlets. I run Sarkhan Vol, Conquering Manticore, Molten Primordial, Zealous Conscripts, Act of Aggression, Word of Seizing, Harness by Force, Hijack, and Kari Zev's Expertise all just to steal and sac to one of my outlets.
I have to agree with MindAblaze on the Grave Pact/Dictate of Erebos/Butcher of Malakir add. I personally only run Dictate however when it's live it is brutal. Your opponents are helpless until it's removed.
You can look at my list, That's so Prossh, if you would like. I have some janky combos like deathtouch + Deathbringer Thoctar or Goblin Sharpshooter that I could probably take out, but overall the deck is really fun.
3 months ago
megaPisces13 The cards I took out are these:
Gigantoplasm, Broodbirth Viper, Illusory Ambusher, Lone Revenant, Warchief Giant Goblin Electromancer, Charmbreaker Devils, Arjun, the Shifting Flame <-(Might be worth keeping), Etherium-Horn Sorcerer, Melek, Izzet Paragon, Dragon Mage.
Echoing Truth, Desperate Ravings, Reins of Power, Steam Augury, Word of Seizing, Aethersnatch, Magmaquake, Act of Aggression, DominateFor artifacts its a toss up, but I got rid of Seal of the Guildpact.
Get rid of all three enchantments.
I'll just put this is as a block text. Dig Through Time, Pieces of the Puzzle, Void Shatter, Swiftfoot Boots (or Lightning Greaves, if you prefer, thought you can go with both), Whispers of the Muse, Mystical Tutor, Part the Waterveil, Scour from Existence, Commit / Memory, Desolate Lighthouse, Cyclonic Rift, Tezzeret's Gambit, Mirrorpool, Disallow, Insidious Will, Shivan Reef, Spirebluff Canal, Metallurgic Summonings, Temple of Epiphany, Reiterate, Past in Flames, Learn from the Past, Meekstone, Epiphany at the Drownyard, Ponder, Merchant Scroll, Blasphemous Act, Mnemonic Nexus, Treasure Cruise, Guttersnipe, The Locust God, Wheel of Fate, Reforge the Soul, Sky Diamond, Expropriate, Insurrection, Caldera Lake, Halimar Depths
If you want some other upgrades to make this deck truly yours, you can go to EDHRec (https://edhrec.com/commanders/mizzix-of-the-izmagnus) to see what else you want to do. My deck is by no means the end all be all of upgrades. Keep it fun and make it work for you. :)
4 months ago
Interesting point about Grab the Reins. I was looking for low CMC Threaten effects that are instant. I want both defense and offense. The sorcery speed cards are mostly unable to provide defense. Besmirch does provide defense, so it is actually a decent option, and I even considered putting Grenzo, Havoc Raiser back into the deck for more goad/pillage effects, but the dependence on attacking creatures makes Grenzo questionable. Besmirch does not have that dependence as much. Act of Aggression is more expensive, but does what Grab the Reins does, only it untaps and gives Haste, and it has the CMC flexibility of phyrexian mana if I need to cast it earlier. I also have a Disharmony that is asking to be played, but the only use it has is for defense, making it an awkward combination of half-fog, half-removal/control/combat trick. I am not sure if it will make the cut, but I will try it out. Kari Zev's Expertise may be great, with the number of <3 CMC cards in the deck, but a large number of them are reactive spells, so I am not sure how often it would pay off. I ordered one for testing anyway, thanks for the tip. Harness by Force would give a middle ground between the normal single target Threaten effects and the multi-target Insurrection/Mass Mutiny/Mob Rule, and could swing games, but is less flexible than Word of Seizing. The only real issue I have with Word of Seizing is the higher CMC, which may be something I just have to get over. Zealous Conscripts is an interesting option, but too many decks have it, and it may scream combo, which I don't want. I will have to play with the rest of these some to find out what I like. Cards like Backlash and Delirium have been really strong for this deck, and I could see any of the Threaten effects doing the exact same work, plus having potentially more flexibility. I will likely cycle through all of them, and every time I draw/play one, I will ask myself if I would have rather had one of the other ones in the list instead.
The other option I was considering was beefing up the midrange elements of the deck some. I am not sure I would have enough card slots to make it worthwhile, and I would be afraid that adding more overt offense would paint more of a target on my head. I would need midrange options that are significant defensive additions, that happened to come with some offense. I think Dread is a good example of this, but Jotun Grunt could make the cut as well, for it's graveyard work that can be used for my own recursion and as anti-reanimator tech. Midrange elements would potentially help against Stax and more reactive decks, but my meta actually frowns on Stax, so this would be a change to prepare for stepping into other metas, and may not really ever pay off. I think adding to what the deck already does through the addition of Threaten effects is probably the better plan that shifting to more midrange, even though it would be mostly useless agains other reactive decks.
As a side note, I have really liked Burning Wish, but had poor outcomes with Death Wish. The Wishboard has been fun, and does create a lot of flexibility, without being totally overpowered. I may work on the contents of the Wishboard as I go along, but I will be replacing Death Wish with a Cruel Tutor I just traded for.
4 months ago
Be careful with Grab the Reins. It doesn't untap the creature you steal which can often be relevant. I still like it but it's further down the list of red "threaten" cards for me.
I love Besmirch. With the goading it's almost like you control the creature for two turns. Word of Seizing is great because of split second and the flexibility of stealing any permanent. With your very low CMC, Kari Zev's Expertise may work for you. I wouldn't normally suggest it in commander but you actually have quite a few 1-2 CMC spells you could cast for free.
4 months ago
Your mana curve seems a bit high. I think you should add some mana rocks (Ruby Medallion, Fire Diamond, Sol Ring) and card draw or wheel effects (Reforge the Soul, Magus of the Wheel, Wheel of Fate, Mind's Eye, Faithless Looting). Since you're mono-red, Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx and Caged Sun are great.
5 months ago
I really need to build a deck around this guy...
I have a couple of suggestions for you. First is Gamble. Fantastic card, the only time I can really say it's disappointing is if you're top-decking at that point. Or you discard the card you tutor... But that just depends on your luck.
Second. Replace Chandra, Pyromaster with Chandra, Flamecaller. Far more useful to you. You can get rid of all of the cards in your hand that aren't useful to you any more and get a fresh set of cards. Plus, she can clear the board of a surprising number of creatures - even in EDH - and if nothing else, she makes a couple of guys for you to swing around.
Third. Wheels. Cards like Magus of the Wheel are fantastic for red decks. Not only are you going to run out of cards in hand fast, but you're opponents are likely to constantly have more cards in hand than you. And thus, more to lose from you wheeling. Wheel of Fate, Wheel of Fortune and Chandra Ablaze are other cards that can do this for you.
Fourth. Word of Seizing. Okay, so this is more of a fun card. It might be a little too slow for your deck. But I recently discovered this card when someone used it to steal my Jace, Unraveler of Secrets on 8 loyalty counters. I still can't believe I managed to win after that... But yes, it can be a ridiculously helpful card in the right scenario.
Fifth. Harsh Mentor. As stated in a previous comment, hilariously good card in mono-red. So mana activated abilities in EDH, it's going to be burning people so often. (I mostly hate it because it really weakens Lightning Greaves.
Speaking of, sixth. Lightning Greaves, and to a lesser point Swiftfoot Boots. People are going to want Zo-Zu dead. Simple as that. While this won't protect him from wraths, Black has lost all of the common ways to kill Zo-Zu, Blue can't bounce him easily and White is forced to wrath if they want rid of him. Sure, Green isn't going to care particularly, they'll just be forced to use Krosan Grip before their Beast Within, but it still can be handy.
Seventh. Obsidian Fireheart. You've already punished them for playing lands, so why not punish them for having lands in the first place? In all seriousness, this is a pretty good mana sink, and there are going to be turns where you don't have anything else to spend your mana on. While it can only target lands that aren't already on fire, it can still quickly drain your opponent's life, especially if you have that Caged Sun out. Three red land, two lands burning away.
My final suggestion is somewhat more tentative, since while it is a really good card, in this deck it's pretty dependent on you hitting yourself with your commander. Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle. It's a lot better than Hellion Crucible, especially if you aren't running any land recursion or proliferate effects, but it does require land ETBs.
Oh, one or two more cards. Blasted Landscape and Smoldering Crater are some more lands with cycling you can run, which might be nice in your deck. Gauntlet of Might and Gauntlet of Power are both essentially Caged Suns. Sensei's Divining Top and Gilded Lotus are both great. Sol Ring is one of the best mana rocks in existence. Subterranean Tremors and By Force are pretty good. Chaos Warp and to a lesser extent Divergent Transformations are really useful if you can't deal with something. And Charmbreaker Devils are always helpful to have around, but may be a little too pricey for your deck mana-wise.
... I need to stop before I've just built a deck in your comments. These are just suggestions from what I've seen from some other red players (plus the start of my research into building a Red deck), so I can't guarantee them all being good ideas, but they may help you.
Also, I'm aware that some of the suggestions I made are almost hilariously expensive, but they are just suggestions and the most expensive one you'll probably want should be dropping in price at the moment since it was banned in another format, if I recall.
Now... Do I finish a deck or start a new one? Choices...
6 months ago
Hmm, I'm a little sad to realize that you can't copy Word of Seizing, but are you still interested in that kind of interaction? I do believe that if you have boots on a creature then they are considered "unable to be targeted" in regards to Radiate, so you could still get away with using Fissure with it and not lose your commander maybe?