Each player chooses a creature they control. Destroy the rest.
Flashback (You may cast this card from your graveyard for its flashback cost. Then exile it.)
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|Commander 2019 (C19)||Rare|
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Divine Reckoning Discussion
1 month ago
Came by this deck while looking for budget ideas for my own Gwyn deck.
I'd say, leave the deck be if it's already doing alright in your meta and you're having fun with it. There are some things that stand out to me though:
You don't have boardwipes in your deck. These will help a lot in surviving the first 7 turns of the game, something you say you have issues with. Mythos of Snapdax, Divine Reckoning and Single Combat are my suggestions. At the bare minimum, get four boardwipes. You can cut some of your creatures for these. Don't forget about single target removal either, I put some in the suggestions below.
Looking at your mana curve: it's quite low, which is a good thing. This means you can cut down on some of the basic lands and go from 40 to something like 36/37. If you can, replace them with more signets or talismans, but cards like Boros Cluestone, Commander's Sphere and Darksteel Ingot are fine too. Try to go for eight mana sources which are not lands.
When selecting creatures to cut to make room for other cards, decide which cards will have an impact when you play them and which won't. As you play the deck, you'll learn more about cards which work and which don't (that's the fun of deckbuilding). I suspect Rimrock Knight won't have much of an impact (You'd rather have another equipment instead), Crashing Drawbridge can be replaced with an equipment which gives haste. In my own Gwyn deck I got rid of Bloodcrazed Paladin because I held on to it instead of playing it. Ardenvale Tactician doesn't look like it'll do much either. I think you'll be fine with somewhere around 25 creatures to make room for more equipment and removal.
You can ditch a card like Rowan, Fearless Sparkmage as well, you can replace the +1 ability with equipment. Don't play the planeswalker for the ult, as your opponents have four whole turn cycles to find an answer for it.
I've listed some more (budget) suggestions below, you'll figure it out: Evolving Wilds
Inquisitor's Flail (use only with first strike/double strike or when you have a way to make your creature indestructible)
Glaring Spotlight (I think it might be a good card as a finisher, but haven't won a game with it yet)
1 month ago
- Celestial Mantle
- Steel of the Godhead
- Lightning Greaves (her ability doesn't target, and if you need to enchant her, just move the greaves over to something else)
- Dovin's Veto
- Divine Reckoning
- Open the Vaults
- Curator's Ward
- Sigil of the Empty Throne
- Shielded by Faith
- Angelic Destiny (I f-ing love this card)
Flicker or blink effects can work very well to defend Bruna too. eg:
If you want to discard and gain something in return (you greedy git) you have things like these:
These are but mere suggestions for stuff you may want to consider!
2 months ago
You may be getting confused about who said what. All I have said so far is that white's lack of draw being a "problem" is a position made up by content creators and echoed by the player base. I then made it clear that I realized that the format that was under discussion was EDH and that out of respect for your wishes I was keeping my disagreement that white needs card draw brief.
I didn't see you mention content creators. I brought them into this because I feel that they made up this viewpoint for views and so that they didn't have to change their earlier way overly simplistic deck building "recipes" where they called a category "draw" and not "card advantage". They have some valid criticisms that the way white works in 1v1 doesn't scale well to multiplayer. So people, wanting to express a viewpoint that was popular, glommed onto this and started parroting it. In my opinion rather than trying to homogenize the colors by saying "white needs draw" we need to solve the problem by scaling white better to multiplayer or providing alternate means to card advantage.
Now that the discussion has been opened up to card advantage in general, we need to start from a common definition of card advantage and see how white could use it's current tools or new tools that are in flavor in order to gain card advantage. Card advantage is the MtG strategic theory that the player with access to the most cards will win. The theory does not count all cards equally and so advantage comes in two flavors card number advantage and card quality advantage.
With the understanding that I am not a card designer and have no intrest in actually developing the ideas beyond saying that they are possible sources of advantage, my thoughts on how white could generate card advantage without drawing:
Resilience- No matter if it is your own board wipes, other people's board wipes, or sticky combat situations white could generate card advantage by just not dying when they are expected to. There is precedent for this with such cards as Ajani's Presence, Break of Day, Teferi's Protection, Selfless Spirit, and many, many more. There is even onboard indestructible such as Avacyn, Angel of Hope. Removing the mechanics from Ajani's Presence and Break of Day would make interesting white cards that create card advantage without drawing. Making an enchantment that is simply Avacyn's ability for 3-4 mana could create massive advantage for white.
Board wipes- As you attributed to me before I said it, board wipes are an in-color way to create card number advantage. As you said also, you have to build toward it if you are wanting to actually use them as advantage. To reduce the set-up required we could make the wraths more flexible. Like an Austere Command that is in the 4 mana range or a mono-white Merciless Eviction. We could also make it so that your stuff was spared by moving Plague Wind effects into white, though 9 mana is a lot. You can modify Divine Reckoning so that the caster gets to choose all creatures that are spared to get card quality advantage.
Scaling 1-for-1s- This is simple. Print cards like Swords to Plowshares that target "up to one creature controlled by each player". White can now run it's super powerful 1-for-1s without card disadvantage. If you are afraid of this effecting non-multiplayer formats take a page out of Battlebond's book and make it cost more than the single unless you have 2 or more opponents.
Anthems and Anti-anthems- The quality of your go-wide creatures is much higher if they are bigger and your opponent's card quality is lower (or you got numbers advantage if you killed some) if their creatures are smaller. Making Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite's ability into a thing that white does could give card advantage. Cathars' Crusade is already a well established combo piece, adapting it so that it could be a more consistent quality advantage could also be a thing.
Scroll Rack effects- Much like how Brainstorm isn't card advantage Scroll Rack isn't technically card advantage. Until you shuffle. Then you have generated card quality advantage by shuffling away cards you don't need. The fact that it isn't draw may be a technicality, but it leads me into my last point.
Not Letting People Draw Extra Cards- Now it seems a little unfair that I don't think white should draw extra cards. Let's make it so that no one can draw extra cards with more Spirit of the Labyrinth effects. Bonus points in that this synergizes with white generating card advantage via avenues besides drawing.
I think I had some other points, but frankly I'm not invested enough in this to try and remember all of them. I think I have made my point that drawing isn't necessary. White could use more and better designed sources of card advantage for multi-player. Making it draw is boring and lazy design. No matter how well they shoehorn it into the identity as they did with Mangara, the Diplomat.
2 months ago
Hi! Just wishing to return the favour for your help on my deck list!
3 months ago
Thanks, king saproling! I think some of these are a little weak, but Champion's Helm, Bastion Protector, Hyena Umbra Open the Vaults, Unquestioned Authority, and Divine Reckoning are definitely going in
3 months ago
Isamaru is such a funny legend. You list looks great. You might consider these cards: Inquisitor's Flail, Duelist's Heritage, Battle Mastery, Fireshrieker, Champion's Helm, Bastion Protector, Hyena Umbra, Tenza, Godo's Maul, Strata Scythe, Lapse of Certainty, Open the Vaults, Unquestioned Authority, Lightmine Field, Balan, Wandering Knight, Single Combat, Divine Reckoning
4 months ago
Continuing my advice, streamlining high CMC cards becomes an important step when choosing what cards to cut. Streamlining means you cut unnecessary high CMC cards, four CMC or higher that are not vital for your deck. Some cards that are redundant, there's two or more cards that do the same thing and one/more of them are not as good as others. Tutors help to break high CMC card redundancy because you can use them to get the better high CMC card thus leaving out others. Streamlining starts at the top of the mana curve and then work your way down.
When streamlining, the cards that are not selected doesn't mean these cards are bad, they're less needed in your deck than others. For streamlining your deck I would look to decrease cards from the 4, 5 and 6 CMC spots.
You've recent update is good, other cards to consider cutting:
Temple of the False God: will not tap for mana until you have four other lands. That's not good enough when you want to be casting low CMC cards and extort.
Armillary Sphere: isn't ramp since it puts the basic lands into your hand not onto the battlefield. Playing a mana rock that is ramp instead of this will help.
Life's Finale: has great artwork, but is lackluster for a creature board wipe especially at 6 CMC. Tutoring for and putting creatures into your opponents graveyard will most of the time backfire in Commander since reanimation and recursion are popular.
Hedron Archive: can get repeatable draw from other sources and four drop colorless ramp is not what you want with Karlov.
Mire in Misery: sorcery speed makes this a lackluster removal spell.
Burnished Hart: is too slow as ramp since the basic lands you search for ETB tapped. For six total mana you get two basic lands that ETB tapped and don't even get a body because you have to sac Hart to get the lands. Just about any mana rock that ETB untapped is more helpful than Hart.
Fountain of Renewal: effect is limited, only happening once at your upkeep and that's all it does. There's more impactful repeatable life gain in your deck.
Beacon of Unrest: there's too many five drops here and Beacon is the worst of them. The potential repeatable reanimation is not really worth five mana. It is nice that this spell can reanimate any opponents creature or artifact, but even so for five mana that's not really helping your strategy with Karlov. For five mana you would be better off casting Exquisite or Bond or a tutor to get one of them.
Solemn Simulacrum: can be great for midrange strategies, creature dying/reanimation strategies, but it doesn't fit here since it's too high CMC for ramp.
Sangromancer: is the least good source of repeatable life gain. It's too situational for a four drop, only triggering when opponent does one or two specific effects.
Underworld Connections: requires tapping the enchanted land to draw which means you can't use mana from that land on your turn. There's better repeatable draw sources here.
Kaya's Wrath: has too difficult to make colored casting cost.
Some upgrades to consider:
- Rogue's Passage > Temple of the False God
- Scheming Symmetry > Armillary Sphere
- Open the Armory > Life's Finale
- Mask of Memory > Hedron Archive
- Serra Ascendant > Ray of Distortion
- Walking Ballista > Solemn Simulacrum
- Suture Priest > Mire in Misery
- Ruin Raider > Burnished Hart
- Blood Artist > Sangromancer
- Mother of Runes > Fountain of Renewal
- Ayli, Eternal Pilgrim > Beacon of Unrest
- Arcane Signet > Orzhov Cluestone
- Divine Reckoning > Kaya's Wrath
- Dark Tutelage > Underworld Connections
Scheming Symmetry and Open the Armory are excellent cards to add for streamlining, they can do a lot here for their budget prices and low CMC. Scheming can tutor for any card and has great interaction with Bolas's Citadel since it puts the card you tutor for on top of your library. Yes, you choose an opponent and they also get to tutor for a card, but that is a cost you pay for having to use an alternative budget one drop unconditional tutor. Armory gets one of the best cards with Karlov, Shadowspear. Seriously, this card does everything you want to make Karlov a threat.
Mask of Memory is an underrated source of budget repeatable draw. It goes well with the voltron strategy of attacking with Karlov and equip 1 to draw two cards is nice. Equipment is good with Karlov and by adding Mask of Memory then Open the Armory can tutor for one of four different effects that can be repeatable with equipped Karlov: Shadowspear/Basilisk Collar for lifelink, Mask of Memory for draw, Sword of the Animist for ramp, Lightning Greaves/Swiftfoot Boots for protection.
If adding Serra Ascendant and Walking Ballista then I wouldn't cut Ranger of Eos since it can tutor for both of them and that's a powerful play for a four drop. If not adding Ascendant or Ballista then Ranger could be cut. Divine Reckoning can be a powerful board wipe with Karlov because it doesn't kill him and it can clear the battlefield of an opponent with many blockers. Yes, each opponent gets to keep their best creature, but most likely Karlov will be bigger than all the other creatures on the battlefield.
4 months ago
Thank you very much Heliogabale for your suggestions! I have tried to replace every cards with something that is less than 2$ in order to have a maximum deck cost of 40$, excluding Uril. I will include for sure Myriad Landscape and Krosan Verge and maybe Divine Reckoning. I have included the other cards inside my competitive version Yes, Uril can... PRIMER. Feel free to leave me your upvotes for my Uril decks ;-)