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Primal Amulet Discussion
13 hours ago
Orion93 I can definitely see how more control would help, however I love the idea of the Afflict mechanic and want to play around with it. Its a little similar to the Tribute mechanic, which I also have a deck based around.
I'm def gonna put some serious thought into the Primal Amulet. Seems like it could be epic. Maybe take out a Torment and an Intimations for a set of 2? We'll see.
18 hours ago
When Primal Wellspring Flip copies a card with X in its casting cost it will retain the value of X from the original casting. Paired with a late game Torment of Hailfire it is a devastating combo. This will allow you to run less Torments and focus instead on playing removal and counter against your opponent.
If Price isn't an issue then I suggest either The Locust God or of course The Scarab God . Those 2 allow you to focus on stopping your opponent more which lets you play at your own pace.
4 days ago
I overlooked the make the spells cheaper on Baral, Chief of Compliance. The part of Primal Amulet that is good is the flip, Primal Wellspring Flip. Copy a huge Torment of Hailfire for a lot of damage to say the least.
4 days ago
How do you feel about playing Dralnu, Lich Lord annd primal amulet ? I am trying to tweak my own brew and they seem to have potential.
5 days ago
First off, this is mean.
Second, I noticed that you have several cards that refer to instants/sorceries. I think that with your deck only containing 13% for those two categories, that you will find them to be inert cards. Kess, Dissident Mage is very cool and exciting, but the card will not be useful in a great deal of situations. I recognize that you will be drawing a great deal of cards as well as wheeling cards into your graveyard, which could help, but I'm not sure. She could probably stay.
Either way, Primal Amulet does not have a place in the deck. Four drop for a reduce cost isn't great, and you will never get the card to flip; in order to do so, you would need to cast 2/3 of the sorceries in your deck. After which, you won't have many left to cast.
Additionally, I have found that Charmbreaker Devils never really did the trick for me in the past. It is pricey (cmc), you are not going to be choosing what you get back, and it is slow- you get your first use of it a turn after casting it.
5 days ago
sg_86 Mechanized used to be in here and was replaced with Panharmonicon as he is more useful in the treasure production department. Mechanized Production is just too easy to get rid of and otherwise moves too slow in producing treasures. and Baral, Chief of Compliance very much serves his purpose of making my spells cheaper earlier while causing filter. He was chosen over primal amulet being he can come out much sooner allowing me to keep the field relatively clear while playing what I need to in order to get treasures made. As far as Spell Swindle that card will never be removed from this deck. You are right its a five drop which is just fine because when it counters something its usually game ending or otherwise is getting me at bare minimum 3 treasures is the smallest cost item I use on it. It also usually proves fatal when someone turn 5 on curve plays a 5 drop and then all of a sudden I have treasures which is what I need to win the next turn with Marionette Master on turn 6 which so far out of my 14 wins 4 have happened because of just that turn 5 counter for treasures turn 6 marionette for win. As the deck sits nothing is going to change in it really. I have been testing everything people recommended and this is where I have ended up. primal amulet comes out way too late to even matter and the deck on its own wins on average turn 8. If anything speeds it up that number only goes lower cause the deck is quite capable on winning on turn 6. And having 5 wincons has worked out just fine as I can always throw in Herald of Anguish and The Scarab God If I need some extra beat down to happen.
5 days ago
Having only 5 wincons s not great. I now see that Marionette Master is much better than Revel in Riches. I think possibly some more of them and possibly some Mechanized Productions would be great. As you are playing Torment of Hailfire, possibly some Primal Amulets would help maximise a huge amount of damage. I have seen versions of this deck using playsets of Revel in Riches, Mechanized Production, and Marionette Master. Perhaps if you were to include playsets of Marionette Master and possibly 3 or 2 Torment of Hailfire and Mechanized Production. With a larger possibility of drawing one of the wincons, I think there will be an improvement.
As for what you should take out, some of the counter spells possibly? I think Spell Swindle is quite hefty at 5 CMC. Baral, Chief of Compliance is not great in this deck as the aim should be to load a Marionette Master or Torment of Hailfire not to counter a bunch of stuff.
5 days ago
The changes in draw and token-generation really helped! I've fiddled around in Xmage a bit and sometimes I even forgot to play Wort, because it wasn't the fastest win. I was very doubtful about cutting all these caracteristic Gruul creatures, but the deck doesn't really need them. primal amulet and Hour of Devastation are great inclusions!