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Wild Ricochet Discussion
3 weeks ago
Wow, thanks for the huge reply. Let me work through this-
Treasure Nabber : so, I did in fact get this idea from an older version of your decklist and I've ran with it ever since. Essentially my deck has turned into IB/artifact tomfoolery as an alternate wincon. I have won quite a few games with the Mycosynth Lattice , Nabber, Blood Moon combo, because my playgroup is heavily non-basic dependent and nothing feels better than saccing my new-found artifact mountains I just stole. Goblin Trashmaster has also came in really clutch with the Lattice and so has Goblin Welder . Hellkite Tyrant also fits into this theme but I haven't had a chance to use it yet, it's my most recent addition to the deck. And of course Daretti, Scrap Savant ties it all nicely together, I've had her emblem out a few times, which is pretty much game winning with a Lattice on board. With all of that said, the Artifact theme in this deck is highly up for debate right now in my mind and people I've asked. I'm very much on the fence about keeping the Lattice and Nabber in myself, and if they go then Hellkite most definitely goes. Also Lattice+ Vandalblast has pulled me out of many lost games and turned them into resounding victories (I also used to run Shattering Spree ).
Goblin Goliath : He is not being used. I have been on the fence about putting him in for a while now. I don't really know what to remove, and he is a lot of mana to utilize if I want to use him (he'd be a fat removal target for my meta, so I'd have to use him ASAP). I definitely want him in though, he's a strong contender.
Vicious Shadows : this is also a new addition. Boggart Shenanigans is great but I've never really made it work too well outside of like, two wins that I can recall. Shadows is expensive, but with Gauntlet of Power , Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx (which I can reliably grab with an Expedition Map , that cost is almost negligible, for a lot more disgusting effect. But like I said, new addition, I don't know if it is worth a crap or not yet. With the cost in mind, I do plan on running an Extraplanar Lens when I upgrade to Snow lands, alongside the Gauntlet and a Shrine to Nyx, high mana costs with very few lands aren't usually much of an issue. But if Shadows falls flat a few times I am definitely putting Shenanigans back in I think. The potential is just too high for both cards.
Raid Bombardment : So I used to run this one. I like it in theory a lot, and I want to find a spot to put it back in, I just haven't seen it with great results usually. Granted, that was with different playgroup then now, where typically me swinging with goblins means they die in vain, whereas I was much more likely to win with a Goblin Bombardment , which is my baby, and I have used with Shenanigans as well to win games.
Glacial Crevasses : it's been on my radar for a long time. It is 100% the next upgrade for my deck, I was just hesitant to spend so much on snow lands for a long time, since I am still not sold on how many I need exactly. Frankly I think I made a mistake holding off on this particular upgrade for so long (like I mentioned, I've been following this decklist for over a year now after I built my first iteration of IB).
Reverberate / Fork / Wild Ricochet : I love the idea, I really do, but I ran them in my deck for a long time and have hardly used them to any meaningful effect. Ricochet is never going back in, but Reverberate and Fork I want to keep/put in, I just noticed they were usually dead in hand. They're near the top of the list of card I'll put back in, it's just finding space for them. I've never drawn into a game winning combo with them unfortunately, but the theory behind keeping them is solid.
Reforge the Soul : I used to run it, then took it out because I just didn't utilize it enough. Memory Jar is one of my more recent upgrades and I am a big fan. I just put Reforge back in because of Vicious Shadows . Time will tell if I keep either, since Slate of Ancestry also usually ended up falling flat for me.
Ancient Tomb : is also scheduled for the next round of upgrades, thanks for the suggestion! Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle does work, and I think I will also be ordering a Bloodstained Mire with it as well.
Chandra, Fire Artisan : Love her, would highly recommend. Cards effects like Commune with Lava are awesome, and have usually always performed well in this deck. Added to that is the fact that I don't have to spend mana for that option past the first turn to cast her, and she is also another target that distracts from myself, and if I can ult her (I haven't been able to yet) then it's just icing on the cake.
Expedition Map : Yeah frankly I think this is kind of a bad pick too, thinking about it now. It's mainly just in there for Nykthos, since Nykthos is a little more critical now that my average curve has gone up a tad bit. Another mana rock would probably suit me better and more consistently. I know you mentioned a Mana Vault , but what else do you think? I am thinking Basalt Monolith , Gilded Lotus , or a Thran Dynamo . Leaning heavily towards the Monolith and Gilded Lotus. Granted, they're more expensive to get out than Vault, but the 4 cost associated with Vault kind of puts me off of it, idk.
Ghirapur Orrery : I think you have this mixed up with Vedalken Orrery . Ghirapur is super value for me, letting me sac two lands, then play those two lands with Crucible of Worlds , and I'm also frequently out of cards in hand. I'd be willing to remove it for a similar effect though, if I knew one that existed.
Curse of Opulence : I like it, great suggestion.
Rings of Brighthearth : I've wanted this card for ages and kept putting it off because of price, and now it's even more expensive. RIP. I do want to add it asap. Not sure what I would do with Sculpting Steel
Spine of Ish Sah : I want to change this but I can't justify it. It just combos with Welder too well. But Scour from Existence has been on my mind for a long time now solely for the exiling. Haphazard Bombardment seems awesome tbh, that might get picked up by me eventually.
Sundial of the Infinite : My meta runs a lot of board wipes, but tbh thinking about it, they don't often cast them on my turn, so this is probably largely useless for me.
Meekstone has always hindered me more than helped me, and not super useful in my meta, but I think it's high time Crawlspace made a return. Kazuul, Tyrant of the Cliffs is actually insane, that may beat out Crawlspace for me. Wow.
Bottom line is I am heavily thinking about scrapping the heavy artifact theme and going with a more focused deck. I'm just hesitant because the cards in question have won me many games.
3 weeks ago
Dreadhorde Arcanist can't be pumped and i'm not running haste enablers. So he'll only be able to cast a few minor 1cmc spells. Best hit would be a turn 2 Wheel of Fate . That's not reliable, profitable enough. Also hitting a creature without an immediate effect while storming is troublesome.
Wild Ricochet is one of my favorites, but it's too pricey with cmc 4 for a copyspell. Copying one of the filtercards would be min. 5 - max 8 mana to draw cards. Countering spells works well enough with the usual ones.
Thanks for the suggestions! Keep 'em coming!
3 weeks ago
4 weeks ago
I would try to add some more red cards personally to have a more even mana spread as you don't want to ever be locked out of any cards unless you want to only splash red (although red has lots of good cards such as seen below)
THE WITTLE - Purphoros, God of the Forge
2 months ago
2 months ago
Hey, good start here. My advice is refine a single strategy to go with it. When you're on a budget it's better to narrow down and only play one strategy. As you get more funds you can expand on this, but when you don't have funds stick with one. Keep it simple :)
Helm of the Host is the card you want with Aurelia and you already have it nice. Most of my suggestions will be to strengthen the voltron strategy with equipment. When you have both these cards you want to be able to use them the turn you play them this means you need to be able to equip Aurelia for free, play Host for free, play Aurelia for free or all of the above. Playing Aurelia for free is difficult in Boros colors so lets take that away. However playing Host and equipping it for free is possible and that's a direction to consider.
Budget cards ($4 or less each) to consider adding:
- Command Tower : one of the best lands for multicolor Commander decks.
- Battlefield Forge : ETB (enters the battlefield) untapped.
- Mistveil Plains : excellent with Sunforger.
- Inspiring Vantage
- Ash Barrens
- Sol Ring : most played card in Commander.
- Godo, Bandit Warlord : another two card win with Host.
- Sigarda's Aid : play Host at instant speed and equip it to Aurelia for free.
- Open the Armory
- Relic Seeker
- Smothering Tithe : great repeatable ramp in multiplayer Commander.
- Sunforger : lets you search for and cast an instant for free.
- Leonin Shikari
- Mother of Runes : protect Aurelia.
- Swords to Plowshares
- Crush Contraband
- Chaos Warp
- Boros Charm
- Argivian Find
- Sun Titan
Sunforger is one of the most popular cards for Boros players because it gives you card advantage in colors that lack a lot of it. You will hear "Sunforger Package" this is referring to a number of instants spells that are good to cast for free with Sunforger's ability. A budget Sunforger package to consider:
- Mistveil Plains: can put a card that's in your graveyard after you cast it for free with Sunforger back into your library and then cast it again. This land lets you loop spells with Sunforger.
- Knight of the White Orchid : search for Mistveil or a Plains and put it onto the battlefield.
- Gift of Estates : search for Mistveil and other Plains. Helpful to make land drops.
- Swords to Plowshares
- Chaos Warp
- Crush Contraband
- Boros Charm
- Argivian Find: recur an artifact or enchantment.
- Dawn Charm
- Deflecting Palm
- Wild Ricochet
- Eerie Interlude : save your creatures from a board wipe get more value from creatures with ETB abilities.
- Wear / Tear : can combine and use both Wear and Tear when casting it with Sunforger.
This is an example of a simple base Sunforger package; it can be expanded on and made much more complex.
If you like some of these suggestions then I offer help to make cuts and if you have any questions feel free to ask. Good luck with your deck.
4 months ago
So as I mentioned on twitter. We definitely need more ramp in this deck. My equipment deck ways in somewhere around like 20 or 25 total artifacts, id expect that you end up in similar territory after adding some mana rocks. Worn Powerstone is an absolute staple for me, Smothering Tithe is amazing, and then a handful of the CMC mana rocks are good. Gilded Lotus although slow, I have found helpful for that extra needed mana that you need to move around equipments late in the game. So get your mana ramp count to at least 10, I'm counting 5 right now, but a lot of it is conditional or slow. In limited testing I haven't had great results with Boreas Charger, so I may cut that one, but more testing is needed. Also just noticed sol ring is missing from the list. Highly recommend, its OP.
I think your creature package looks great. Only 2 small changes. Ive never had good success with Hellkite Charger so i would cut that one. It takes 13 mana to cast it, and use the untap combat ability, and doesn't pair well with feast and famine because of the timing of the triggers. So Id cut that one. And I've had mixed results with molten primordial. If there aren't tokens running around everywhere it can be really good, but the second there is chump blockers it loses a lot of value. For 1 extra mana you can play insurrection, which easily kills 1 or more players when Aurelia is play. So if you need that effect I would look toward Insurrection . It can be nice to have an Leonin Abunas or Indomitable Archangel especially if theres a lot of removal in your meta, but its not entirely necessary...just something to think about. Also its not really on theme, but I just really like Iroas with Aurelia. Together they have 6 devotion, so very easy to get into creature form, and attacking with it twice just puts a hurting on opponents. Again not necessary, but i just like it as sort of a separate avenue of attack. Oh and I would add in a Kazuul's Toll Collector the free equip is really nice.
I think you want to cut just a few spells from the deck as well. My votes would be Dawn Charm and Wild Ricochet . Ive never been able to live the dream on wild ricochet and if its in your hand, 4 tends to be a lot to hold up. Dawn charm is just a bit redundant with comeuppance and teferis, and i don't know that you need all 3.
Now with all of this stuff, if there are things specific to your meta it may makes sense to keep some of them. A large portion of my testing was in the MTGO meta which has its quirks.
A few other interesting cards to think about. Ive seen people run Nahiri, the Lithomancer , Daretti, Scrap Savant , and Goblin Welder as other ways to get artifacts back. There also the crazy expensive one from antiquities, agrivian something or other. Any of these could potentially be better in the Daring Archeologist spot just something to think about.
Land base, things are in good shape. Although I would cut, temple of the false god for a basic plains. I have run out of plains with sword of the animist and emeria shepherd and that makes me very sad. Or you could replace it with a spinerock knoll, a card I've come to like a lot recently.
A few other things to think about. I didn't see a lot of double strike. I really like Silverblade Paladin and Duelist's Heritage , makes it really easy to be lethal or generate tons of value with equipment triggers.
But otherwise I really like everything. The mana ramp is the big change, and everything else is just some small tweaks.
Also theres a few cards I've been looking at for a while, but since i haven't been running this build of Aurelia I haven't been able to test. Let me know how Lapse of Certainty , Settle the Wreckage and Rebuff the Wicked are working for you. They are cards I always look at, just haven't had a chance to use them yet. Anyway hope this helps! Heres my list, its a bit outdated now, but still relatively close to where it should be https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/aurelia-weapons-of-war/
4 months ago
I dont think its necessary to go overboard on the equipment. Putting in 6 or so instant speed interaction is always great. Red Elemental Blast and Pyroblast help against the most powerful blue spells (these two cards always get passed over but honestly they are great to protect your plays against counters, counter powerful blue finishing spells like extra time spells and Cyclonic Rift , destroys blue permanent threats etc). Vandalblast , Abrade , Shunt , Wild Ricochet are all great spells that do a lot of work every game.
Wild Ricochet occurrence in decks from the last year
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