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Wild Ricochet Discussion
19 hours ago
Subtraction; Wild Ricochet
Wild Ricochet tends to just sit in the hand and Languish is another way to keep your opponents creature count to a minimum.
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Hypergeometric Formula. Suppose a population "the deck" consists of N items "99 cards", k "31 lands" of which are successes. And a random sample drawn from that population consists of n items "7 cards", x "2 cards" of which are successes. Then the hypergeometric probability is: h(x; N, n, k) = [ kCx ] [ N-kCn-x ] / [ NCn ]
Best to use the calculator! Hypergeometric Calculator
So 99, 31, 7, 2 reading the X successes >= 2 lands in opening 7 cards, is 70.7% (> because 3 lands is still 2 lands)
By turn 4, you've drawn 4 more cards, so your sample size is 11, but now we want 4 successes (lands). 99, 31, 11, 4, >=4 is 47.1% only!
Don't count mana rocks as lands. A normal commander deck has between 35-38 lands, PLUS 8-10 ramp/rocks/dorks (mana accelerators). I run 36 lands, and 7 mana rocks, Chromatic Lantern, Chrome Mox, Fellwar Stone, Mana Crypt, Orzhov Signet, Sol Ring, Talisman of Indulgence, but I also run heavy tutors to pull what i need. I like it, but for longer non-combo games I would run 8.
Sundial of the Infinite has many other uses in longer non-combo games, only on your turn of course:
Angel of Serenity | Permanently exile the creatures, no returning to their owners hand
Karmic Guide | Avoid his Echo, but costs you a turn so not a good trade off
Kothophed, Soul Hoarder | Prevent him from killing you if you need to cast a board-wipe on your turn
Sneak Attack | Keep it permanently, no sacrifice
Mimic Vat | Keep the token, no exile
Counterspell | If something happens you don't like, counter it, costs rest of turn but prevent catastrophe, can't get any better protection.
Counterspell those Grixis and Izzet players from End-of-Turn (EOT) casting draw/removal now that they don't need the mana for Counterspell anymore. Also stop Green from Flash casting in their creatures EOT.
Whip of Erebos | Creatures you control get lifelink, unburial creatures from graveyard, and Sundial of the Infinite to keep the creature, no exile. HOWEVER, when the creature does leave play, it will still be exiled due to the replacement effect also generated by the Whip of Erebos
Flameshadow Conjuring | Same idea but you play lots of Legendary so don't recommend
You've got some good stuff to pull with Sunforger.
Enlightened Tutor for Tutor
I personally don't like Chaos Warp but it is ok. Deflecting Palm / Comeuppance / Wild Ricochet too, but meh, give me offense! Wild Ricochet at least prevents then doubles the effect vs. Reverberate doesn't prevent anything, Shunt is ok, but there has to be another legal target, and it doesn't double it. 2 for 1 like Return to Dust is how Mardu beats the lack of good drawing.
Dark Tutelage is another Dark Confidant who I do play, BUT, Dark Tutelage is harder to remove if it's going to kill you. Dark Confidant easy to block with or sacrifice etc. In budget though, I'd probably play it lol.
Reveillark another recursive guy, but his CMC is high, and not an A/D/D so not efficient / synergy. Bladewing the Risen is good recursion too. 2 for 1! Reya Dawnbringer no Kaalia of the Vast trigger, but demands an answer. Unanswered he can make you golden.
Angel of Despair good budget removal. Aegis Angel good protection. Archfiend of Depravity if you face go-wide or token decks. Steel Hellkite is a great budget removal, he makes most Kaalia of the Vast competitive decks.
Hope that answers the questions presented.
3 weeks ago
3 weeks ago
adds Slagstorm, Flame Rift, Tormenting Voice, Wild Guess, Chaos Warp, Strionic Resonator, Thermo-Alchemist, Faultline, Staff of Nin, Worn Powerstone, Commander's Sphere, Sensei's Divining Top, Rogue's Passage, Ramunap Ruins,
potential adds Recoup, Fork, Chandra, Flamecaller, Runehorn Hellkite, Knollspine Dragon, Past in Flames, Molten Psyche, Cryptolith Fragment Flip, Fanatic of Mogis, Charmbreaker Devils, Firebrand Archer, Wild Ricochet, Sizzle, Flamebreak, Breath of Darigaaz, By Force, Ruination, Darksteel Plate, Sword of Fire and Ice, Sword of War and Peace, Sword of Feast and Famine, Magebane Armor, Blood Moon,
cuts Mizzium Mortars, Rolling Earthquake, Solemn Simulacrum, Burnished Hart, Extraplanar Lens, Outpost Siege, Sulfuric Vortex, Magma Jet, Ravaging Blaze, Skullcrack, Starstorm, Thunderous Wrath, Scrying Sheets, Terrain Generator, and a Mountain, switch to basics.
3 weeks ago
Hi! Came here from the discord! have some experience with Boros so hopefully I can help you out! :)
First off, +1 for Elspeth! ;)
I don't know your budget. But we can get some serious upgrades in here for around $40. let's do this!
As someone on the discord said, Anointed Procession will be good.
Sunforger support: Since I see your going with the Sunforger shenanigans, here are some good support cards! Sculpting Steel and Masterwork of Ingenuity are great for making copies. Enlightened Tutor is almost a "must" if there can ever be such a thing. It can grab SF or be tutored by it to grab Assemble the legion. I mentioned Mistveil Plains in the discord but feel the need to restate it here. Very important to reuse your instants.
Sunforger Package: You have an alright start here, but white and red have many more powerful options you can choose from. Swords to Plowshares, Path to Exile, Chaos Warp(all three some of the best removal in these colors), Oblation(you can use it on your own tokens for draw in a pinch). Tithe is a good target, that you should probably run anyways because of Boros' weakness in ramp. Tithe also gets Mistveil Plains, which is huge. Comeuppance and Deflecting Palm are great Aikido cards. So much fun. Boros Charm is another "must" because it saves you from boardwipes/most artifact removal. Lapse of Certainty can be a budget substitute. Wild Ricochet trickry may be fun to try! Return to Dust is really decent removal. You can blow up two things during your turn but also have the option to blow up one thing whenever. Even something like Warleader's Helix for some decent removal might be useful.
So for an example of a $40 budget, here's what I would do:
- Enlightened Tutor
- Masterwork of Ingenuity
- Mistveil Plains
- Swords to Plowshares
- Chaos Warp
- Boros Charm
- Deflecting Palm
- Return to Dust
These additions will dramatically improve the support that your sunforger gets, and up the power of what sunforger can do, making playing the deck a lot more fun.
That's my $0.02! Hope some of this helps!
3 weeks ago
I absolutely love this list and I've made my own list inspired by it (Queen Marchesa, Politics & Pillow Forts .. I've given you credit in the deck description as well). (Ok, I'll be honest here, It's the same list with about 10 card changes that suit my interests / needs a bit better). Just as a clarity thing up front, I do not yet have this deck, these changes are simply of my own mind / thoughts / desires.
Strip Mine + Scavenger Grounds >> Mountain & Plains -No need for these cards in my casual level meta... the worst lands around are like, command tower and path of ancestry in a tribal deck. Also, no one really plays with a recursion package.
Wild Ricochet >> Wear / Tear -I'm just not in love with wild ricochet I guess. Wear and Tear can always find good use at the tables I play at. (I run a copy in my current "main" deck, which is a boros depala vehicles deck and it really pulls it's weight everytime it comes into hand)
Michiko Konda, Truth Seeker >> Kambal, Consul of Allocation -Ok, so this one i'm not sure about, in my mind I'm just not impressed by Michiko. I understand she's a rattlesnake effect, except I really find her rattlesnake effect underwhelming when my opponent can just sac a token or low powered artifact or basic land and just keep hammering me in the face. I'm a bit more preferable to the taxing effect that Kambal has on the game while buffering my health pool to allow my more preferable rattlesnake effects to have more chances to activate.
Gossamer Chains >> Crown of Doom -Ok, this one is purely for flavor. I love crown of doom's "hot potato" effect. I know it's not a high powered card by any means but it fits the whole idealogy of the deck and it's a crown in a deck commanded by a queen? Yummy flavor! Even if it weren't for crown of doom, I'd change it for Vow of Malice most likely to play politics with (and it's defensive and unlike the other vows, it barely inhibits our ability to attack the player with this enchantment if we so please. White vow gives vigilance, red vow gives first strike... both are bad if we attack the player that has them.)
Austere Command >> End Hostilities or Fumigate -I use austere command in my previously mentioned boros vehicles deck and I love it there. I only have 3 (of 26) creatures at or above 4 CMC and only a single enchantment that doesn't stick around... giving me 2 great modes to activate. On this deck I have a harder time seeing when you would want to blow up all artifacts or all enchantments or ALL creatures (<3 and 4> CMC creeatures). I've slotted in a removal that I feel fits decently and again is a nod to my personal meta. (1 person only has 1 deck that is green/white cats and equip, and another player plays the same deck). We only have 1 equippable artifact and we have a way to unequip it at will. (Sunforger activation > Boros charm or Teferi's into End hostilities... 7 mana, wipe not my creatures and not my permanents attached to said creatures). Another one I'd consider if I didn't have problems with equipment would be Fumigate for the life buffer.
Again, I just want to echo the fact that I absolutely love every concept of this deck, most of these changes are just to better fit my budget, playgroup or flavor. (I actually am going to be starting with an even more budget version that better fits my current price range). I'm definitely open to being persuaded against my choices here if you feel super strongly for a card that I'm thinking about replacing.
I'd give this a +10 vote if I could!