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Choose one or more (Remember that the modes you choose resolve in the order they appear on the card) —
- Counter target spell.
- Counter target activated or triggered ability.
- Return target nonland permanent to its owner's hand.
- Create a token that's a copy of target creature you control.
- Target player draws a card.
1 week ago
Rasaru - updated the list to reflect what I am currently running with. Big changes including new power like Displacer Kitten/Glasspool Mimic Flip/Chromatic Orrery/Lae'zel's Acrobatics. Invested more into Stifle effects (Tale's End, Trickbind, Disallow, Sublime Epiphany) which power up our flicker-removal value via countering the delayed trigger, some direct upgrades/substitutions (eg: Rout --> Vanquish the Horde, Sanctum Gargoyle --> Archaeomender, Fact or Fiction --> Memory Deluge), and finally caved to the mainboard Eldrazi Displacer.
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5 months ago
Ooh boy ThisIsMyAccount, I’m not sure about some of those. Chalice of the Void is certainly a card I overlooked, and as you pointed out it would be a great fit. I’m adding that one to the maybeboard right away for when it’s revision time.
But I don’t think I can use most of the others. The way this deck is set up I only really have about 4-6 possible slots I could reconfigure. Mana Leak and Remand are the card(s) I’d look to replace, but the rest of the deck is somewhat locked down and necessary to function correctly. I can see Archmage's Charm being better than either, but unfortunately I don’t currently own any. I’ll add it to the maybeboard in case I acquire some. Decisive Denial and Sublime Epiphany I’ll have to pass on; the former is a harder-to-cast Mana Leak that only targets noncreature spells, and the first portion is immaterial as attacking is not part of the overall strategy. The latter suggestion is simply too mana intensive—it has nice options, but by the time we have 6 available mana we should be on track for a win (if it’s going to happen in a given game). Same goes for Plasm Capture, too costly and situational. I do appreciate the suggestions though and you make some good points.
5 months ago
So I see there are no CMC cost 1 cards which means Chalice of the Void is probably a no brainer for this deck. You'll have to adjust your sideboard but I think it is worth it. If do decide on Chalice then Plasm Capture could be a interesting inclusion because you're guaranteed to get better value from it if your opponent cannot cast CMC 1 spells.
Then, I think Decisive Denial and/or Archmage's Charm would probably be better than Mana Leak. Also, just consider Sublime Epiphany because even though it is very expensive it can make a token of a creature you control which is invaluable to your wincon.
7 months ago
Alrund's Epiphany Arachnogenesis Awakening Zone Bane of Progress Barkchannel Pathway Flip Beacon of Creation Birds of Paradise Circle of Dreams Druid Crafty Cutpurse Craterhoof Behemoth Cryptolith Rite Deep Forest Hermit Dreamroot Cascade Fabled Passage Fierce Guardianship Garruk, Primal Hunter Idol of Oblivion Junk Winder Koma, Cosmos Serpent Master of Waves Misty Rainforest Mystic Reflection Mystic Sanctuary Nissa, Voice of Zendikar Oko, Thief of Crowns Otawara, Soaring City Priest of Titania Prismatic Vista Reality Shift Reef Worm Replicating Ring Repudiate / Replicate Rite of Replication Sakashima of a Thousand Faces Second Harvest Shamanic Revelation Sublime Epiphany Sylvan Library Theoretical Duplication Timestream Navigator Treasure Vault Tropical Island Waterlogged Grove Worldly Tutor Yavimaya, Cradle of Growth Freyalise, Llanowar's Fury
7 months ago
I think Spelltwine doesn't work with your commander, because you are copying the cards and casting them instead of copying the spell. If that's right than Mizzix's Mastery and Arcane Bombardment also wouldn't work, sadly. Maybe they are good enough to keep anyway? Not sure. Cards with the Cipher mechanic are also so close to working but I don't think they do. This is actually kind of hard to brew around! Ugh, God-Eternal Kefnet wouldn't work either, ew.
Immolating Gyre and Volcanic Vision are really good boardwipes in a spells-y deck... as is Cyclonic Rift, which you definitely should still run. In fact, all the overload spells are pretty sweet here, since they only target things you don't control, so if you copy them opponent's can't even pay the 4 life to hit one of your things. Makes Vandalblast and friends possibly worth it.
It will be interesting to see if Lithoform Engine or Pyromancer's Goggles will be good enough here (I like Primal Amulet Flip). Maybe more spells that copy spells are better than these chunkier repeatable ones? Things like Galvanic Iteration or Reiterate if you like the buyback better. Or Increasing Vengeance for the beefier flashback. Hell, if its politics Bonus Round could be really fun. Chef's Kiss is a newer one that I forgot about
Maybe this is the kind of deck where Thrilling Encore shines?
Is Stunning Reversal here to try and copy and save other people with?? Seems like it may not be good enough when you have access to blue for card draw/protection anyway.
I wish, as I always do, that Cloven Casting wasn't soooo bad. Or like, any of the cards with Replicate. Those would be so perfect. Maybe Shattering Spree is good enough but I think it isn't. Ugh, that makes me think about how you're definitely supposed to play storm cards in this deck. Are there any storm cards that aren't miserable? Mind's Desire maybe...
Is Charmbreaker Devils good enough?
Wild Ricochet is an oldie but maybe enough of a goodie here with the copying theme?
Harmonic Prodigy since your commander is a wizard isn't a terrible idea...
Humble Defector might be too cute.
Cruel Ultimatum is the ultimate chunky spell and you're even in the right colors for it!
Also Chaos Warp is still good enough as universal instant speed removal and kind of fun/politics-y as well
8 months ago
Hi Lord_of_Cardboard! I've been playing Mizzix for many years, and she is still actually both a budget-friendly and over-powered commander at the same time when played correctly. I have a few expensive cards in my deck (mostly free counterspells to ease the early game), but if you took maybe five pricey and unnecessary cards out it would be around the same budget as yours.
The key to Mizzix, as Josh Lee Kwai pointed out when it was spoiled, is playing mostly spells and playing lots of X-Spells. The rule of thumb for Mizzix is that Syncopate is better than Counterspell every time. Because X-spells can be cast for any amount, we can always add more and more counters on Mizzix. If I counter a spell with Syncopate where x=5 and I have five experience counters, I'll pay only a but will get another counter because the cmc is higher. When I then turn around and cast Pull from Tomorrow for I'll draw six cards and add yet another experience counter. In this way you can always add more and more experience counters and draw your deck for ridiculously low mana costs, and get to your wincon. You have a few of these, but a lot more really makes the deck unstoppable.
The original precon was called Seize Control, and that is also one of the best directions for the deck, namely, playing lots of counterspells and shutting down all of your opponents' powerful plays. In addition to Syncopate we have Condescend, Clash of Wills, and Mindswipe, and while they aren't X-Spells Sublime Epiphany and Mystic Confluence can often increase counters while giving you flexibility. You have a lot of the other X-spell counterspells like Power Sink which are great and you should keep, and without the free spells it is also probably good to play good old Arcane Denial and the like for the very early game. You have most of the Blue Sun's Zenith clones, which are also really great and help with the counters.
Personally, I'd recommend cutting on creatures for more spells, which get the most out of Mizzix. I hate hard-casting anything for more than 3cmc, because I always need to have as much mana open as possible to police the board on my opponents' turns. I'd recommend cutting the splashy creatures like Niv Mizzet and even the token generators like Young Pyromancer as they just distract you from your focus on controlling the board. Reiterate (which you have) plus Turnabout is the best way to win and is easily tutorable. Once you have infinite mana you can just win with Earthquake, Rolling Earthquake, or Jaya's Immolating Inferno. In order to avoid dying to the former and having to worry about blockers (so you can cheat on creatures) you really want to get Glacial Chasm, as well as a couple of ways to tutor it (I play Expedition Map and Tolaria West).
This is just my advice, but I've definitely found the deck consistent and oppressive, and I avoid playing it too much to avoid demoralizing my opponents!
My deck is here if you're curious-
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8 months ago
You... may be in the minority, Wuzibo.
Scour and Intro are not played cards, and EDHrec will support me on this, just look at the numbers. The reason for this is simple: they are insanely overcosted. There are two non-colorless decks where I think Intro is worth running (and Scour is right out), which I also got when I checked EDHrec: Mizzix of the Izmagnus and Vadrik, Astral Archmage, because they can reduce its cost to 0. That is sweet, and those colors don't have a lot of good enchantment removal, so tbh I'd run it there, but unless I drop its cost substantially, it's not a playable card at 5 mana because 5-mana one-to-one removal is very bad.
Looking at the top 100 instants, 8 (Cyclonic Rift, Return of the Wildspeaker, Force of Will, Dig Through Time, Inkshield, Expansion / Explosion, Magma Opus, and Sublime Epiphany) meet or exceed 5 mana. They largely fall into two categories: 1- cards you can choose not to cast for 5+ mana (Cyclonic Rift, Force of Will, Dig Through Time, Expansion / Explosion, and Magma Opus), and 2- the three others: a card draw spell, an ultra-fog, and a modal spell which, to your credit, is removal, but it's removal that draws you a card, makes you a token, and bounces an opponent's creature. So.
What I'm saying is it takes a LOT of sauce to be a worth-running 5-mana removal spell, in fact I was surprised not to see Windgrace's Judgment in the top 100, which is up to three Intros without the card draw clause. It is a bad card, mate. Scour is worse.
9 months ago
I see more counter-spells going in! When trying to pick out which ones are good, the 3cmc ones that do one random other thing are usually not worth it. You want to focus on 2cmc or less and when going over 2cmc you want modal spells that give us flexibility to do other things. This will especially be good in Braids if you are leaving a lot of mana open. So rather than cards like Didn't Say Please and Broken Concentration which are just glorified Cancel spells, instead go for Mystic Confluence, Sublime Epiphany, and Insidious Will, which give us other fun options when we don't need to counter. Muddle the Mixture is also an excellent counterspell which can also be used to tutor any 2cmc instant or sorcery you want. If we are in the 3cmc non-modal space, you should prioritize Spell Crumple and Hinder, which tuck the spell safely away on the bottom of your opponent's library rather than their graveyard where they can sometimes recur it. Also, Wizard's Retort is basically a second Counterspell with your commander, so I'd go for that!