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Surrak, the Hunt Caller
Legendary Creature — Human Warrior
Formidable — At the beginning of combat on your turn, if creatures you control have total power 8 or greater, target creature you control gains haste until end of turn.
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Surrak, the Hunt Caller Discussion
2 days ago
joachimjuncher, Hi! I apologize for such a late reply. The reason is that I've been very busy lately. I'm very grateful to you for taking the time to analyze the deck, and card choice! And thanks for your kind words about the deck! I really appreciate constructive criticism and any suggestions, especially from another mono-green player.
Cards that you suggested to replace:
Viridian Longbow - As you rightly pointed out, it depends on the playgroup. And my playgroup run some realy pesky commanders like Zur the Enchanter, and to be able to destroy them on instant speed is a decent ability, and I try to make the deck as versatile as possible and considering that green is very week in removing creatures, VL seems like a good spell for all those purposes. I agree that its a bit slower then one shot spells, I'll think about it and try to find a good replacement for more tests. What would you put instead of this card?
Lifecrafter's Bestiary - well, I added this card not so long ago, and so far it has performed its functions perfectly - draw additional cards, and scry every upkeep. It is good if you draw it in the beginning - you will at least scry every turn, and it is good to have it in the hand in late game, cuz You usualy have a lot of mana and need more gas (cards) for it. And it has a very good synergy with Cloudstone Curio, Wirewood Symbiote.
Norwood Priestess - well, frankly, there were times when it was a dead draw, or I did not have anything in my hand to cheat in with her ability. But in the same time, more often there were moments of triumph and glory when I was able to drop things like Bane of Progress, Avenger of Zendikar, Terastodon or Craterhoof Behemoth, and all those bobs come in to the battlefield uncounterable with her ability. Needless to say that the deck run some creature untappers, so You can drop bombs even twice in a turn! But I agree with You that this card is a bit slow. If I would cut this card, then what would you suggest to replace it. I'm thinking of replacing her with something like Pattern of Rebirth, Eldritch Evolution or maybe Wayward Swordtooth
Cards that you suggested to add:
Utopia Sprawl, Berserk, Temur Sabertooth, Surrak, the Hunt Caller - all these cards were in the deck and were tested a lot. All of them work fine with Rhonas, but on one of them I would focus my attention - Utopia Sprawl, this card is super great without a doubt, with a pain in my heart, I cut and I returned it several times to the deck, man, its so hard to decide what to cut!
Overgrowth - I'm looking at this magnificent enchantment for a long time, and I would like to find a place for it in the deck, but if I find a slot for it, then I should put Utopia Sprawl first. So that if Overgrowth enters the deck, then only together with Utopia Sprawl.
Rings of Brighthearth is an interesting suggestion! Despite the fact that the card itself does not do anything when it hits the battlefield, It can create very strong synergies and even infinite combinations. I will definitely think about this. And if I add it to the deck, it makes sense to add Basalt Monolith ;).
Homeward Path - I used this card in this deck, and in my other decks. To be honest, the card has never been useful.
Yavimaya Hollow - I also like this land, I would like to find a slot for it, it seems to me a great idea to add more protection for creatures. Especially vulnerable are mana dorks, and opponents try to remove them as quickly as possible in my games.
Elvish Archdruid - I absolutely agree that this is an excellent creature. But as for all previous options, its hard to decide what to cut for it.
Thanks again for all Your suggestions and feedback! I will be happy to look at your decks to, and try to help with my advice!
2 weeks ago
Food Chain is insane. It Combos with Omnath, Locus of Mana and If you have Selvala, Heart of the Wilds out you get to draw a bunch of cards. Same goes for Elemental Bond. Im a big fan of Dryad Arbor as it gives you two towards Ghalta. Also I find it hilarious to cast Green Sun's Zenith for 0 on turn 1 to get it. Also Defense of the Heart. Sure with that they get a whole turn to come up with an answer, but you are mono green. You have to ask if they have an answer. Defense of the Heart asks a pretty important question. "Are you dead?" Use it to grab Pathbreaker Ibex and Surrak, the Hunt Caller. I like to go grab Avenger of Zendikar and Regal Force as well.
3 weeks ago
Untapping Selvala is huge. Maybe you want to consider some of these cards Instill Energy, Nature's Chosen, Quirion Ranger, Scryb Ranger, Seeker of Skybreak, Wirewood Lodge, Umbral Mantle another equipment that enables infinite mana. For late game Patron of the Orochi. It's hard to tell how much untapping is enough, you'll have to playtest it.
Protect Selvala! (and any other creature deserving of it) Heroic Intervention is the best thing ever, Blossoming Defense is also amazing, Sheltering Word with the added value to get a lotta life from your fatties. There are many others, but those are probably the best in my opinion.
You have many lands and your commander is a super mana dork, I think you could cut some down to about 38 without having land problems, otherwise you should consider adding some fastbond effects. The first one comming to my mind for this deck is Wayward Swordtooth, then you always have the options of Exploration, Burgeoning, Budoka Gardener and Oracle of Mul Daya.
Speaking of lands, you will never be color blocked in a mono color deck, so I would go all in in the utility land pack: Reliquary Tower, High Market and Miren, the Moaning Well, Homeward Path, Mystifying Maze, Arch of Orazca... So many options!
Surrak, the Hunt Caller nice power for its mana and gives your guys haste, not many green cards give haste.
Zendikar Resurgent, Vernal Bloom, Extraplanar Lens, Caged Sun and Gauntlet of Power are all great options for doubling your mana, but the best thing is Mana Reflection because it also affects Selvala, a bit expensive too.
1 month ago
I enjoy the mechanics of your deck. I have made a very similar one myself, and have tested out some of the cards you play, and found them wanting. However, that depends always depends on the playgroup IMO.
Viridian Longbow - While this card seems good on paper with rhonas, it has never given me any real value. As rhonas needs to be first equipped and then tapped to do the shooting, -ideally this means that you have a turn 3 creature shooter where you have spent all ressources up till that point to be able to shoot 1 creature at a time, with everything tapped and nothing to block.
Lifecrafter's Bestiary - I have only ever tried this card out in my Karametra deck, but in that extremely creature heavy deck, it was underwhelming, to say the least. What is your experience with that card?
Berserk - You addressed this card earlier, and i will say that my experience with it is highly positive. (I play Pathbreaker Ibex as well) With all the draw spells based on creature power, it turns "the Rhonas 5 card draw" into 10 card draw. (Greater Good, Life's Legacy, Momentous Fall, Garruk, Primal Hunter) Further more, you can slap it on one of the big creatures like Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger, or Terastodon and almost insta kill anyone with leftover HP at that point.
Norwood Priestess - Found the Elvish Piper equivalent simply too slow for my taste, I have played around 5-7 games with that dude out, and it has never yielded me anything good. With the amount of ramp cards you play, i would say that this girl could be cut for something more usefull, but ofc, that depends on your own experience as well.
Cards, you might wanna consider:First two, you have already considered and found wanting Utopia Sprawl, Overgrowth. I have tested these cards, and they are overwhelmingly good. Theyre harder to remove than mana dorks, and they provide infinite mana easily with Earthcraft and Cloudstone Curio. Plus you know, they make the Arbor Elf extremely much better.
Temur Sabertooth This dude is underated IMO. While he provides another bounce effect, the protection of your key creatures is legit and should be a higher priority i think. With some of the mana doublers in play, he also goes infinite. And he has the added benefit of activating your Rhonas for a measly 4 mana.
Rings of Brighthearth - While Rhonas himself has an activated ability, it is not said ability yo usually wanna copy. Fetchlands turn into 2 lands instead of one, Thousand-Year Elixir Wirewood Symbiote Quirion Ranger untaps Selvala, Heart of the Wilds or the like twice. Garruk, Primal Hunter Throws out two dudes, or draws 10 cards. Plus if you insist on running your Longbow shooter, there you go -> boom boom.Aaaand you know, Deserted Temple plus any high producing land (also insert Overgrowth right here) = infinite = kill = win
Homeward Path - I have found, that while having an indestructable commander is all well and good, the worst thing that can happen to this deck is that someone else steals the fucker. In your deck you only have your big eldrazi girl, to get him back (i.e. to command zone then recast]. But it depends on the playgroup i think. In any case it is tutorable with any of your land tutors.
Surrak, the Hunt Caller Another haste enabler, which i have found myself tutoring for loads of times to enable combos. He activates Rhonas, and Rhonas in turn activates his haste ability. also. throw out 10 dmg turn 3 is always good for pressurering controldecks.
Yavimaya Hollow I love this land, as I will often see players trying to mess with the key mana producers. It is a solid card, and will give you a bit more resilience.
Elvish Archdruid I know that you have at some point considered this card. And let me tell you, consider it until you put it in. Do not think of anything else, just do it. Fulfill your dreams and do it. It is cheaper than the Channeler, and provides another easy way to win the game.
In all I liked your take on Rhonas, and it look very very much like my own. I have played it in 1on1 Commander and consistently take wins away from aggro and control. The only deck that has the number on Rhonas is Queen Marchesa control. That burns all lower creatures, and sacs Rhonas in a neverending cycle of dominion over our green dorks. Which makes this deck entirely too slow without the added benefit of small dudes.
You have received an upvote from me. Good Job.
1 month ago
Krosan Reclamation is a pretty standard for HD moments where you're like, "Oh shit, my library's in my graveyard. How do I not die?"
If HD is Pithing Needled or otherwise removed, this chain can win:
- Protean Hulk + sac outlet, into Dryad Arbor + Hellraiser Goblin + Feldon of the Third Path.
- Copy Protean Hulk (requires ) and sac again, into 3 1CMC mana dorks and Combat Celebrant.
- Go to combat and exert Combat Celebrant. (Remember that everything not tapped will need to attack, and Hellraiser Goblin needs to survive combat, so 1 opponent has to be open.)
- Use your dorks and Feldon to copy Combat Celebrant, go to next combat and exert.
- Repeat until you have a lot of Combat Celebrant's. Note that once you have more than two, activating Feldon is unnecessary for infinite combats, so you can reanimate Protean Hulk again to get creatures that will clear away any blockers your opponents might have.
This line is nice because it only requires 2 cards we're not currently using, Feldon of the Third Path and Combat Celebrant, and there's even room to copy Protean Hulk a third time if all of your opponent's have blockers. (It will also generate a ton of extra mana if Thermopod is the sac outlet you grabbed with Eldritch Evolution.)
(And for the record, I wasn't saying Surrak, the Hunt Caller > Hellraiser Goblin, just that him and HD can still win off a conspired Natural Order, and Natural Order seems too go not to include here. I would run both.)
1 month ago
Should we add in Talisman of Impulse as well?
I guess we can talk Plan B: when Past in Flames is countered by Force of Will. I'm thinking along the lines of Recoup,but I don't know if we can still win from there, but probably something that has a Dwell on the Past effect so that we still have a chance.
Plan C, when HD is hit by Pithing Needle. So far, you proposed the line with Isochron Scepter. Kinda sketchy in my opinion, cos you need to tutor for two artifacts, namely Isochron Scepter and Paradox Engine.
Another thing is Seedborn Muse, which I think we may be able to abuse.
1 month ago
So, Surrak, the Hunt Callerwould be a better haste enabler for HD than Hellraiser Goblin? It could be grabbed out of Natural Order at least, adding another line to the combo... and if we are grabbing it this way, it means we have enough power since the spells needs to be conspired...
The reason I was not including it at first was for the Hulk line... I mean, the pile would look like HD (2) + Dryad Arbor (0) + Mana Dork (1), so we still have 3 mana to play with... I needed the goblin (3) to give haste to everything since it would allow me to go off with no more mana than what is required to start the combo, but if we use one of the tutor to sacrifice Hulk, then we can afford to grab an additional creature, which could be Sylvan Safekeeper for protection.
Surrak would not allow me to start from anywhere, same thing for Lightning Mauler, and that was the reason they were not included... I will playtest without them, and then I will playtest them once we can "stabilize" this brew.
Does it sounds good sonnet666?
1 month ago
Sure AR costs 1 less than Dualcaster Mage + Twinflame, but AR has some problems in this deck. Mainly that conspired or copied spells don't count toward its total, and also that unlike Storm decks, we probably won't have cast more than 3 spells in for the turn before casting it. We don't want to have to load up on too many instants and sorceries to be sure to kill the table.
- , Activate HD.
- : Flashback Past in Flames.
- : Flashback Rite of Flame, +.
- : Flashback Desperate Ritual or Pyretic Ritual, +.
- : Flashback Seething Song, +.
- 2 Life: Flashback Noxious Revival: Return Dualcaster Mage to top of library.
- : Flashback Manamorphose: Add , draw Dualcaster Mage.
- : Flashback Twinflame targeting HD (or anything, really).
- : Cast Dualcaster Mage in response, copy Twinflame with ETB, copy of Twinflame copies Dualcaster Mage, repeat for infinite copies of Dualcaster Mage with haste.
- Attack for lethal
If you have additional creatures in play you can also sac HD to Infernal Plunge and save a step. You can also cast more rituals for extra mana to flashback Pyroblast, Red Elemental Blast, Autumn's Veil, or Guttural Response, or to flashback Seize the Day if you're doing this post-combat.